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  #11  
Old March 22nd 18, 04:22 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bret Cahill
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Default Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say

Are you saying that pedestrians in the carriageway are fair game outside of a designated crossing?

Watch enough Hollywood movies and just about anyone anywhere is fair game in the U. S., school children, whatever.

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Old March 22nd 18, 10:11 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Keller[_3_]
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Default Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say

On 22/03/18 07:09, Simon Jester wrote:
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 9:57:48 AM UTC, Peter Keller wrote:
On 21/03/18 02:01, MrCheerful wrote:
On 20/03/2018 10:03, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:00:02 +0000
Bod wrote:
Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a
self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the
first of its kind.

The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to
suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the
country.

Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking
outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...arizona-pedest

ian-police-say.html

This is what happens when companies try to push technology thats not
ready
simply to boost their share price. But then only idiots believed the
BS about
it being what drivers want anyway.



Typical cyclist, walks her bicycle in front of a car and people say it
was the car's fault.


For once I agree with you.
That was a damn' stupid place for the bicyclist to jaywalk across the road.


Are you saying that pedestrians in the carriageway are fair game outside of a designated crossing?

In America it seems like it.
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Old March 22nd 18, 10:34 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say

On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 6:48:42 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 6:00:05 PM UTC, Bod wrote:
Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a
self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the
first of its kind.

The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to
suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the country.

Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking
outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...olice-say.html
--
Bod



No system designed by humans will be 100% reliable.
The obvious first step is to reduce speed limits for motor vehicles in urban areas to 5mph.


Dashcam footage.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Uber-car.html
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Old March 22nd 18, 10:46 AM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
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Default Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:57:46 +1300
Peter Keller wrote:
On 21/03/18 02:01, MrCheerful wrote:
On 20/03/2018 10:03, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:00:02 +0000
Bod wrote:
Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a
self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the
first of its kind.

The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to
suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the
country.

Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking
outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...arizona-pedest

ian-police-say.html

This is what happens when companies try to push technology thats not
ready
simply to boost their share price. But then only idiots believed the
BS about
it being what drivers want anyway.



Typical cyclist, walks her bicycle in front of a car and people say it
was the car's fault.


For once I agree with you.
That was a damn' stupid place for the bicyclist to jaywalk across the road.


Its turning into a bit of a farce. Metro pointed out this morning that the
safety driver is a formed armed robber who now thinks he's a woman. Driverless
cars, criminal rehabilitation and a "non binary" slant. Its millenial catnip.

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Old March 22nd 18, 01:15 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say

On 22/03/2018 09:46, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:57:46 +1300
Peter Keller wrote:
On 21/03/18 02:01, MrCheerful wrote:
On 20/03/2018 10:03,
wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:00:02 +0000
Bod wrote:
Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a
self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the
first of its kind.

The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to
suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the
country.

Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking
outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...arizona-pedest

ian-police-say.html

This is what happens when companies try to push technology thats not
ready
simply to boost their share price. But then only idiots believed the
BS about
it being what drivers want anyway.



Typical cyclist, walks her bicycle in front of a car and people say it
was the car's fault.


For once I agree with you.
That was a damn' stupid place for the bicyclist to jaywalk across the road.


Its turning into a bit of a farce. Metro pointed out this morning that the
safety driver is a formed armed robber who now thinks he's a woman. Driverless
cars, criminal rehabilitation and a "non binary" slant. Its millenial catnip.


the other silly thing is that a driverless car can (I believed ) 'see'
in the dark with its IR cameras, radar etc.
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Old March 22nd 18, 04:27 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
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Default Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:23:27 +0000
MrCheerful wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...in-front-of-ub
r-car/ar-BBKxM3i?ocid=spartandhp


Actually looking at that video I can't help wondering why the lasers or
radar didn't pick her up. There's no sound so its hard to tell if the car
started to brake but it doesn't look like it. Still, the woman was obviously
a cretin so Darwin would have got her in the end.

  #19  
Old March 22nd 18, 06:13 PM posted to uk.rec.driving,uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say

On 22/03/2018 15:27, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:23:27 +0000
MrCheerful wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...in-front-of-ub
r-car/ar-BBKxM3i?ocid=spartandhp


Actually looking at that video I can't help wondering why the lasers or
radar didn't pick her up. There's no sound so its hard to tell if the car
started to brake but it doesn't look like it. Still, the woman was obviously
a cretin so Darwin would have got her in the end.


Yep, my first thought was that the system is crap, it would mean that
darkness, mist, fog, snow etc. would have a deluge of crashes.
  #20  
Old March 23rd 18, 12:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say

On 21/03/2018 18:09, Simon Jester wrote:
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 9:57:48 AM UTC, Peter Keller wrote:
On 21/03/18 02:01, MrCheerful wrote:
On 20/03/2018 10:03, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:00:02 +0000
Bod wrote:
Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a
self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the
first of its kind.

The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to
suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the
country.

Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking
outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...arizona-pedest

ian-police-say.html

This is what happens when companies try to push technology thats not
ready
simply to boost their share price. But then only idiots believed the
BS about
it being what drivers want anyway.



Typical cyclist, walks her bicycle in front of a car and people say it
was the car's fault.


For once I agree with you.
That was a damn' stupid place for the bicyclist to jaywalk across the road.


Are you saying that pedestrians in the carriageway are fair game outside of a designated crossing?


Are you saying that you are ignorant of the law on "jaywalking" in most
USA states?

Why do I ask? Of *course* you are.

Here's some of the Arizona legislation:

QUOTE:
howwedrive.com.

The State Statute

28-793. Crossing at other than crosswalk
A. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a
marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection
*shall* *yield* the right-of-way to *all* *vehicles* on the roadway.
B. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at a point where a pedestrian tunnel
or overhead pedestrian crossing has been provided *shall* *yield* the
right-of-way to *all* *vehicles* on the roadway.
C. Between adjacent intersections at which traffic control signals are
in operation, pedestrians *shall* *not* cross at any place except in a
marked crosswalk.

In Arizona, cities are authorized to enact their own pedestrian
regulations; so you need to look at each and every jurisdiction; skip
below to see two examples, Tempe and Mesa.

[Let's skip straight to Tempe]

Jaywalking in Tempe

Sec. 19-1(2) Central business district means all streets and portions of
streets within the area described as follows. All that area bounded by
the salt river on the north, to 10th Street on the south and from Myrtle
Avenue on the east to Maple Avenue on the west. [note: the ASU campus
is, mostly, not in the central business district. Rather it is east of
the CBD.]

Sec. 19-151. Crossing a roadway.

(a) No pedestrian shall cross the roadway within the central business
district other than within a marked or unmarked crosswalk.
(b) Every pedestrian crossing a roadway outside of the central business
district at any point other than within a marked or unmarked crosswalk
*shall* *yield* the right-of-way to *all* *vehicles* upon the roadway.
(c) No pedestrian shall cross a roadway where signs or traffic control
signals prohibit such crossing.
ENDQUOTE



 




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