Convert Hybrid to Touring bike

Steven M. Scharf wrote:
"Russell Seaton" wrote in message
A touring bike will usually have 40 or 48 spoke dishless wheels? When
did this become the norm?
In the 1980's.

These 48 spoke rims are like your $400 dynamo systems, aren't they?

In Britain we are fortunate to have several companies who still build
traditional touring bicycles. A new Dawes Galaxy? 36 spoke wheels. Chas
Roberts? 36 spoke wheels. Orbit's Romany (their heavy-duty model)? 36.
Longstaff? I'll give you three guesses.

Needless to say people have used all these manufacturers' bicycles to ride
in remote parts of the world.

[Admittedly, Thorn have 48 as an option on their heavy-duty 26" tourers.]

happen. You want to go into any bike shop in Italy or the Czech
Republic and buy a wheel and put it in your bike and be off.
The point is that you don't want to have to rely on there being a bike shop
out in the middle of nowhere.

You don't want to, but sometimes you must. Without a sag wagon, you're not
going to be carrying spare rims.

Why steel? Why lugged over TIG?
Much less likely to fail.

Why are lugged frames less likely to fail?

It isn't emotional. It's a fact that steel frames are stronger than aluminum
frames.

Actually, it depends on the design of the frame in question.

Lugged frames are easier to repair, both in remote and non-remote
parts of the world.

Sure they are - if you find a blacksmith in India, he's going to be set up
to do silver brazing, and not just weld some big lumps of metal on. No,
wait...
--
David Damerell Distortion Field!

Steven M. Scharf wrote:
"Russell Seaton" wrote in message
A touring bike will usually have 40 or 48 spoke dishless wheels? When
did this become the norm?
In the 1980's.

These 48 spoke rims are like your $400 dynamo systems, aren't they?

In Britain we are fortunate to have several companies who still build
traditional touring bicycles. A new Dawes Galaxy? 36 spoke wheels. Chas
Roberts? 36 spoke wheels. Orbit's Romany (their heavy-duty model)? 36.
Longstaff? I'll give you three guesses.

Needless to say people have used all these manufacturers' bicycles to ride
in remote parts of the world.

[Admittedly, Thorn have 48 as an option on their heavy-duty 26" tourers.]

happen. You want to go into any bike shop in Italy or the Czech
Republic and buy a wheel and put it in your bike and be off.
The point is that you don't want to have to rely on there being a bike shop
out in the middle of nowhere.

You don't want to, but sometimes you must. Without a sag wagon, you're not
going to be carrying spare rims.

Why steel? Why lugged over TIG?
Much less likely to fail.

Why are lugged frames less likely to fail?

It isn't emotional. It's a fact that steel frames are stronger than aluminum
frames.

Actually, it depends on the design of the frame in question.

Lugged frames are easier to repair, both in remote and non-remote
parts of the world.

Sure they are - if you find a blacksmith in India, he's going to be set up
to do silver brazing, and not just weld some big lumps of metal on. No,
wait...
--
David Damerell Distortion Field!

"David Damerell" wrote in message
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Steven M. Scharf wrote:
"Russell Seaton" wrote in message
A touring bike will usually have 40 or 48 spoke dishless wheels? When
did this become the norm?
In the 1980's.

These 48 spoke rims are like your $400 dynamo systems, aren't they?

In Britain we are fortunate to have several companies who still build
traditional touring bicycles. A new Dawes Galaxy? 36 spoke wheels. Chas
Roberts? 36 spoke wheels. Orbit's Romany (their heavy-duty model)? 36.
Longstaff? I'll give you three guesses.

Needless to say people have used all these manufacturers' bicycles to ride
in remote parts of the world.

[Admittedly, Thorn have 48 as an option on their heavy-duty 26" tourers.]

happen. You want to go into any bike shop in Italy or the Czech
Republic and buy a wheel and put it in your bike and be off.
The point is that you don't want to have to rely on there being a bike
shop
out in the middle of nowhere.

You don't want to, but sometimes you must. Without a sag wagon, you're not
going to be carrying spare rims.

Why steel? Why lugged over TIG?
Much less likely to fail.

Why are lugged frames less likely to fail?

It isn't emotional. It's a fact that steel frames are stronger than
aluminum
frames.

Actually, it depends on the design of the frame in question.

Lugged frames are easier to repair, both in remote and non-remote
parts of the world.

Sure they are - if you find a blacksmith in India, he's going to be set up
to do silver brazing, and not just weld some big lumps of metal on. No,
wait...
--
David Damerell Distortion Field!

All I can say is MTB, MTB, MTB
There are very few places that you can't find a shop selling crappy MTB's
and the accompanying crappy parts - though in Nth Burma a friend did have to
buy a whole bike (for all of US$79) to get a new rim. (The alternative was
to wait for a week for a rim to come up from Yangon - a no brainer.)

Hugh Fenton

"David Damerell" wrote in message
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Steven M. Scharf wrote:
"Russell Seaton" wrote in message
A touring bike will usually have 40 or 48 spoke dishless wheels? When
did this become the norm?
In the 1980's.

These 48 spoke rims are like your $400 dynamo systems, aren't they?

In Britain we are fortunate to have several companies who still build
traditional touring bicycles. A new Dawes Galaxy? 36 spoke wheels. Chas
Roberts? 36 spoke wheels. Orbit's Romany (their heavy-duty model)? 36.
Longstaff? I'll give you three guesses.

Needless to say people have used all these manufacturers' bicycles to ride
in remote parts of the world.

[Admittedly, Thorn have 48 as an option on their heavy-duty 26" tourers.]

happen. You want to go into any bike shop in Italy or the Czech
Republic and buy a wheel and put it in your bike and be off.
The point is that you don't want to have to rely on there being a bike
shop
out in the middle of nowhere.

You don't want to, but sometimes you must. Without a sag wagon, you're not
going to be carrying spare rims.

Why steel? Why lugged over TIG?
Much less likely to fail.

Why are lugged frames less likely to fail?

It isn't emotional. It's a fact that steel frames are stronger than
aluminum
frames.

Actually, it depends on the design of the frame in question.

Lugged frames are easier to repair, both in remote and non-remote
parts of the world.

Sure they are - if you find a blacksmith in India, he's going to be set up
to do silver brazing, and not just weld some big lumps of metal on. No,
wait...
--
David Damerell Distortion Field!

All I can say is MTB, MTB, MTB
There are very few places that you can't find a shop selling crappy MTB's
and the accompanying crappy parts - though in Nth Burma a friend did have to
buy a whole bike (for all of US$79) to get a new rim. (The alternative was
to wait for a week for a rim to come up from Yangon - a no brainer.)

Hugh Fenton