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Old July 27th 07, 06:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Contador v. Evans in TT

In last year's Tour of Romandie final TT Evans rode 2.5 seconds per km
faster over 20.4 km, and in this year's Albi TT Evans rode 1.12
seconds per km faster over 54 km.

The 2005 Tour might be too far back to look for reference points, but
Evans gapped Contador by 0.8 seconds per km for a 19km prologue and
then by 4.5 seconds per km for the final 55km time trial. Presumably
Contador, out of GC contention at that point, wasn't going all out in
the final TT.

Without taking account of the stage profile (which is a crucial
element) if the gap is as in Romandie then Evans wins tomorrow by 2:15
and probably wins the Tour overall. If the gap is more like Albi then
Evans wins by about one minute and Contador probably wins the Tour.

Anyone else have hunches or insight on tomorrow's outcome?


- Corey

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Old July 27th 07, 07:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Contador v. Evans in TT

On Jul 27, 7:42 pm, wrote:
In last year's Tour of Romandie final TT Evans rode 2.5 seconds per km
faster over 20.4 km, and in this year's Albi TT Evans rode 1.12
seconds per km faster over 54 km.

The 2005 Tour might be too far back to look for reference points, but
Evans gapped Contador by 0.8 seconds per km for a 19km prologue and
then by 4.5 seconds per km for the final 55km time trial. Presumably
Contador, out of GC contention at that point, wasn't going all out in
the final TT.

Without taking account of the stage profile (which is a crucial
element) if the gap is as in Romandie then Evans wins tomorrow by 2:15
and probably wins the Tour overall. If the gap is more like Albi then
Evans wins by about one minute and Contador probably wins the Tour.

Anyone else have hunches or insight on tomorrow's outcome?

- Corey


Considering that Disco is very good in preparing riders (physically
and mentally) and have 7 TdF's under their belt the odds are stacked
against Evans.

But it's a toss-up, thats for sure.

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Old July 27th 07, 07:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Contador v. Evans in TT

On Jul 27, 11:42 am, wrote:
Anyone else have hunches or insight on tomorrow's outcome?


No, but here's some more data with recognizable names for comparison/
speculation
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007...s/parisnice070
See places 5, 6 ,17 (It did involve a climb)
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007...s/profile0.gif

DR

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Old July 27th 07, 08:39 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Contador v. Evans in TT

"Tuschinski" wrote in message
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Considering that Disco is very good in preparing riders (physically
and mentally) and have 7 TdF's under their belt the odds are stacked
against Evans.

But it's a toss-up, thats for sure.


I'm hoping that after that dumbass move of Contador's in letting a gap open
between him and Evans that Cadel wins by 3 seconds tomorrow.


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Old July 27th 07, 09:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Contador v. Evans in TT

Tom Kunich wrote:
"Tuschinski" wrote in message
s.com...
Considering that Disco is very good in preparing riders (physically
and mentally) and have 7 TdF's under their belt the odds are stacked
against Evans.

But it's a toss-up, thats for sure.


I'm hoping that after that dumbass move of Contador's in letting a gap open
between him and Evans that Cadel wins by 3 seconds tomorrow.


Damn, I have to agree with TK there.

Greg

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Old July 27th 07, 10:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Contador v. Evans in TT

On Jul 27, 3:24 pm, Stu Fleming wrote:
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Anyone else have hunches or insight on tomorrow's outcome?


The 3 seconds that Evans took at the end of the Angouleme stage are very
important.

I don't think final stage will be a procession...


I'm not sure how close it would have to be at the end of the TT for
someone to think it would even be possible to make up the time on
Sunday, before they'd even bother to try. I don't see anyone trying
to take back 2 or 3 minutes on Sunday. Not really any way to do it
unless they could blow apart the field in a crosswind, like Astana did
last week. Sunday will be much like yesterday or today: the entire
teams for the top two (three, actually) riders ALL massed at the front
protecting their leaders.

If it's only seconds, I suppose we could see the top three fighting
for the time bonuses at the final sprint, but I don't really expect
that would happen. It would require every legitimate sprinter to
voluntarily give up any chance for their own stage win, which won't
happen.

So, how, exactly, would someone overtake the yellow jersey on Sunday?

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Old July 27th 07, 11:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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wrote in message
ups.com...
In last year's Tour of Romandie final TT Evans rode 2.5 seconds per km
faster over 20.4 km, and in this year's Albi TT Evans rode 1.12
seconds per km faster over 54 km.

The 2005 Tour might be too far back to look for reference points, but
Evans gapped Contador by 0.8 seconds per km for a 19km prologue and
then by 4.5 seconds per km for the final 55km time trial. Presumably
Contador, out of GC contention at that point, wasn't going all out in
the final TT.

Without taking account of the stage profile (which is a crucial
element) if the gap is as in Romandie then Evans wins tomorrow by 2:15
and probably wins the Tour overall. If the gap is more like Albi then
Evans wins by about one minute and Contador probably wins the Tour.

Anyone else have hunches or insight on tomorrow's outcome?


Another newbie Q

Does the 20 sec time bonus apply for TT as well?

If so, then Evans only needs to be in front of Contador by 1:31, providing
Evans wins the TT and Contador arrives lower than third.

Am i right, or did i balls it up?



- Corey



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Old July 28th 07, 12:20 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"JC" wrote in message
m...

Does the 20 sec time bonus apply for TT as well?


Another newbie Q

No.

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Old July 28th 07, 12:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Contador v. Evans in TT

JC wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
In last year's Tour of Romandie final TT Evans rode 2.5 seconds per km
faster over 20.4 km, and in this year's Albi TT Evans rode 1.12
seconds per km faster over 54 km.

The 2005 Tour might be too far back to look for reference points, but
Evans gapped Contador by 0.8 seconds per km for a 19km prologue and
then by 4.5 seconds per km for the final 55km time trial. Presumably
Contador, out of GC contention at that point, wasn't going all out in
the final TT.

Without taking account of the stage profile (which is a crucial
element) if the gap is as in Romandie then Evans wins tomorrow by 2:15
and probably wins the Tour overall. If the gap is more like Albi then
Evans wins by about one minute and Contador probably wins the Tour.

Anyone else have hunches or insight on tomorrow's outcome?


Another newbie Q


Does the 20 sec time bonus apply for TT as well?


If so, then Evans only needs to be in front of Contador by 1:31, providing
Evans wins the TT and Contador arrives lower than third.


Am i right, or did i balls it up?


No bonus on TT, no recalculation of points so bouns if a rider leaves
the race in any way.

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