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  #11  
Old July 13th 08, 12:53 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Siskuwihane[_2_]
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Jul 12, 11:44*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane





wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:03*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:58:48 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 10, 9:49*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


You don't believe in God so stop asking for his help.


Also, what people do legally in this free country is none of your
business. Maybe you should move to China where your kind flourishes.


You risked an innocent cats life and he was killed by your ignorance,
that pretty much disqualifies you from speaking about people with "no
sense".


What are you, a professor of Vandemanology? You have no idea what you
are talking about.


I know exactly what I am talking about.


You don't believe in God,


You have absolutely no idea whwther I do or not, LIAR.


So are you now going to claim you are NOT an atheist? Are you now
going to claim that you never said the Bible is a work of fiction?
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  #12  
Old July 13th 08, 02:15 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Jul 12, 11:44*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane



wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:03*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:58:48 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 10, 9:49*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


You don't believe in God so stop asking for his help.


Also, what people do legally in this free country is none of your
business. Maybe you should move to China where your kind flourishes.


You risked an innocent cats life and he was killed by your ignorance,
that pretty much disqualifies you from speaking about people with "no
sense".


What are you, a professor of Vandemanology? You have no idea what you
are talking about.


I know exactly what I am talking about.


You don't believe in God,


You have absolutely no idea whwther I do or not, LIAR.

*but ask for his help, that's called

hypocrisy.


You aren't even good at imitating me. *"God help us" is an expression
that is not meant literally. DUH! Of course, you already knew that,
and chose to LIE anyway, because that's the only way you know how to
communicate.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


So in essence you (Mike) are lying again (as always) or in your
mentally ill sociopathic mind it makes sense. May God help **you**
(Mike) seek the help you need so you can be a productive person
again. I **literally** mean that "may God help you", I will continue
to pray for you. There is hope for *you* Mike if you face
reality................
  #13  
Old July 13th 08, 03:37 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:45:10 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
wrote:

On Jul 12, 11:41*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:24:33 GMT, "Wayne"
wrote:







"Blattus Slafaly" wrote in message
m...
Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


Children are not yet required to stay in their nanny state padded cell,
yet.


--
Blattus Slafaly *? 3 * * *7/8


Besides that....it appears that the child seat would function much like an
airbag in protecting the rider during a crash * *


BS. It is the height of irresponsibility to expose a child (or anyone
else) to that degree of danger. It's like leaving a child locked in a
car on a hot day. Mountain bikers are out of touch with reality.


It is the height of irresponsibility to expose a domesticated cat to
traffic by letting it run free, that's how they get run over by cars.

Irresponsible pet owners are out of touch with reality.


It is the height of irresponsibility to drive a motor vehicle.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #14  
Old July 13th 08, 03:38 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:53:58 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
wrote:

On Jul 12, 11:44*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane





wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:03*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:58:48 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 10, 9:49*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


You don't believe in God so stop asking for his help.


Also, what people do legally in this free country is none of your
business. Maybe you should move to China where your kind flourishes.


You risked an innocent cats life and he was killed by your ignorance,
that pretty much disqualifies you from speaking about people with "no
sense".


What are you, a professor of Vandemanology? You have no idea what you
are talking about.


I know exactly what I am talking about.


You don't believe in God,


You have absolutely no idea whwther I do or not, LIAR.


So are you now going to claim you are NOT an atheist? Are you now
going to claim that you never said the Bible is a work of fiction?


It IS a work of fiction. Everyone knows that. Except YOU, I guess.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #15  
Old July 13th 08, 03:39 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:15:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Jul 12, 11:44*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane



wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:03*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:58:48 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 10, 9:49*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


You don't believe in God so stop asking for his help.


Also, what people do legally in this free country is none of your
business. Maybe you should move to China where your kind flourishes.


You risked an innocent cats life and he was killed by your ignorance,
that pretty much disqualifies you from speaking about people with "no
sense".


What are you, a professor of Vandemanology? You have no idea what you
are talking about.


I know exactly what I am talking about.


You don't believe in God,


You have absolutely no idea whwther I do or not, LIAR.

*but ask for his help, that's called

hypocrisy.


You aren't even good at imitating me. *"God help us" is an expression
that is not meant literally. DUH! Of course, you already knew that,
and chose to LIE anyway, because that's the only way you know how to
communicate.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


So in essence you (Mike) are lying again (as always) or in your
mentally ill sociopathic mind it makes sense. May God help **you**
(Mike) seek the help you need so you can be a productive person
again. I **literally** mean that "may God help you", I will continue
to pray for you. There is hope for *you* Mike if you face
reality................


Did you say something?
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #16  
Old July 13th 08, 04:17 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Jul 13, 10:39*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:15:18 -0700 (PDT), "



wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:44*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:03*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:58:48 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 10, 9:49*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


You don't believe in God so stop asking for his help.


Also, what people do legally in this free country is none of your
business. Maybe you should move to China where your kind flourishes.


You risked an innocent cats life and he was killed by your ignorance,
that pretty much disqualifies you from speaking about people with "no
sense".


What are you, a professor of Vandemanology? You have no idea what you
are talking about.


I know exactly what I am talking about.


You don't believe in God,


You have absolutely no idea whwther I do or not, LIAR.


*but ask for his help, that's called


hypocrisy.


You aren't even good at imitating me. *"God help us" is an expression
that is not meant literally. DUH! Of course, you already knew that,
and chose to LIE anyway, because that's the only way you know how to
communicate.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)


Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!


http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


So in essence you (Mike) *are lying again (as always) or in your
mentally ill sociopathic mind it makes sense. *May God help ***you**
(Mike) *seek the help you need so you can be a productive person
again. *I **literally** mean that "may God help you", *I will continue
to pray for you. *There is hope for *you* Mike if you face
reality................


Did you say something?
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



Once again, Mike submits proof that he is sociopathic. If you
**really** want to do something useful volunteer to this worth cause
and prevent people from getting hurt http://www.crystallake.name/screek.htm
  #17  
Old July 13th 08, 06:02 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Jul 13, 10:37*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:45:10 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane



wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:41*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:24:33 GMT, "Wayne"
wrote:


"Blattus Slafaly" wrote in message
m...
Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


Children are not yet required to stay in their nanny state padded cell,
yet.


--
Blattus Slafaly *? 3 * * *7/8


Besides that....it appears that the child seat would function much like an
airbag in protecting the rider during a crash * *


BS. It is the height of irresponsibility to expose a child (or anyone
else) to that degree of danger. It's like leaving a child locked in a
car on a hot day. Mountain bikers are out of touch with reality.


It is the height of irresponsibility to expose a domesticated cat to
traffic by letting it run free, that's how they get run over by cars.


Irresponsible pet owners are out of touch with reality.


It is the height of irresponsibility to drive a motor vehicle.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


So according to Mike's logic it is responsible for him to own a NON-
native, invasive species (cat) and let the cat roam freely so it can
kill native species whenever/wherever it chooses.
http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/.../predation.pdf
Yet it is irresponible for a person to "drive a motor vehicle". To
top it off he claims is an environmentalist and he has traveled
hundreds of miles by fossil-fueled vehicles to give lectures. Mike
has some serious mental health issues................
  #18  
Old July 13th 08, 08:25 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:17:26 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Jul 13, 10:39*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:15:18 -0700 (PDT), "



wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:44*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:03*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:58:48 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 10, 9:49*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


You don't believe in God so stop asking for his help.


Also, what people do legally in this free country is none of your
business. Maybe you should move to China where your kind flourishes.


You risked an innocent cats life and he was killed by your ignorance,
that pretty much disqualifies you from speaking about people with "no
sense".


What are you, a professor of Vandemanology? You have no idea what you
are talking about.


I know exactly what I am talking about.


You don't believe in God,


You have absolutely no idea whwther I do or not, LIAR.


*but ask for his help, that's called


hypocrisy.


You aren't even good at imitating me. *"God help us" is an expression
that is not meant literally. DUH! Of course, you already knew that,
and chose to LIE anyway, because that's the only way you know how to
communicate.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)


Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!


http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


So in essence you (Mike) *are lying again (as always) or in your
mentally ill sociopathic mind it makes sense. *May God help ***you**
(Mike) *seek the help you need so you can be a productive person
again. *I **literally** mean that "may God help you", *I will continue
to pray for you. *There is hope for *you* Mike if you face
reality................


Did you say something?
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



Once again, Mike submits proof that he is sociopathic. If you
**really** want to do something useful volunteer to this worth cause
and prevent people from getting hurt http://www.crystallake.name/screek.htm


BS. Restoring TRAILS is not conservation. To protect people from
mountain biking, it needs to be BANNED.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #19  
Old July 13th 08, 08:27 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Jul 13, 10:37*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:45:10 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane



wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:41*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:24:33 GMT, "Wayne"
wrote:


"Blattus Slafaly" wrote in message
m...
Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


Children are not yet required to stay in their nanny state padded cell,
yet.


--
Blattus Slafaly *? 3 * * *7/8


Besides that....it appears that the child seat would function much like an
airbag in protecting the rider during a crash * *


BS. It is the height of irresponsibility to expose a child (or anyone
else) to that degree of danger. It's like leaving a child locked in a
car on a hot day. Mountain bikers are out of touch with reality.


It is the height of irresponsibility to expose a domesticated cat to
traffic by letting it run free, that's how they get run over by cars.


Irresponsible pet owners are out of touch with reality.


It is the height of irresponsibility to drive a motor vehicle.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


So according to Mike's logic it is responsible for him to own a NON-
native, invasive species (cat) and let the cat roam freely so it can
kill native species whenever/wherever it chooses.
http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/.../predation.pdf
Yet it is irresponible for a person to "drive a motor vehicle". To
top it off he claims is an environmentalist and he has traveled
hundreds of miles by fossil-fueled vehicles to give lectures. Mike
has some serious mental health issues................


Clearly, you don't know what you are talking about.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #20  
Old July 13th 08, 08:59 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default God Help Us -- A Mountain Biking Child Seat!

On Jul 13, 3:27*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT), "



wrote:
On Jul 13, 10:37*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:45:10 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:41*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:24:33 GMT, "Wayne"
wrote:


"Blattus Slafaly" wrote in message
m...
Mike Vandeman wrote:
Mountain bikers obviously have no sense! Not only to risk their own
safety, but to risk that of an innocent child is CRIMINAL.


http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2937


Children are not yet required to stay in their nanny state padded cell,
yet.


--
Blattus Slafaly *? 3 * * *7/8


Besides that....it appears that the child seat would function much like an
airbag in protecting the rider during a crash * *


BS. It is the height of irresponsibility to expose a child (or anyone
else) to that degree of danger. It's like leaving a child locked in a
car on a hot day. Mountain bikers are out of touch with reality.


It is the height of irresponsibility to expose a domesticated cat to
traffic by letting it run free, that's how they get run over by cars.


Irresponsible pet owners are out of touch with reality.


It is the height of irresponsibility to drive a motor vehicle.

snipped for clarity

So according to Mike's logic it is responsible for him to own a NON-
native, invasive species (cat) and let the cat roam freely so it can
kill native species whenever/wherever it chooses.
http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/.../predation.pdf
Yet it is irresponible for a person to "drive a motor vehicle". * To
top it off he claims is an environmentalist and he has traveled
hundreds of miles by fossil-fueled vehicles to give lectures. *Mike
has some serious mental health issues................


Clearly, you don't know what you are talking about.

snipped for clarity
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


I am referring to claims on your website and prior rantings/posts over
the years. You infer and allude to that you're an environmentalist and
traveled to conferences hundreds of miles from where you live.
Surely, you didn't ride your bike to the conferences that you claimed
you spoke at.

The link I provided is rationally written and contains verifiable
facts, unlike your irrationally scribbled nonsense. Your mental
instability is getting worse...........

 




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