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Old April 25th 18, 02:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 4/24/2018 7:58 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:14:01 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 07:51:23 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2018-04-23 17:48, John B. wrote:

[...]

The Roman Legions apparently marched for about 2/3rds of a day
carrying their gear and weapons - a Century did have several mule
carts assigned for carrying tents and other gear - and then built a
camp before "falling out" for the night. According to Caesar's reports
from Gaul this went on for days at a time.


You believe Caesar's writers? I never did. Whenever they got beaten the
snot out of them they wrote "the winds were unfavorable" or whatever. If
they wrote the truth they'd likely have "disappeared".


Caesar was essentially a politician and wrote his reports specifically
to keep his name before both the population and the rulers of Rome
while he was absent from the city (I believe that he paid to have them
read publicly) and thus they were always complementary. However other
evidence does show that he generally did accomplish when he claimed to
have done.

For example, he claimed to have sold some 53,000 Adualeui into slavery
and independent sources show that the price of slaves in the
Mediterranean area dropped to all time lows in the same period, which
would tend to demonstrate that there was a large influx of slaves,
from somewhere, during this period.
--
Cheers,

John B.


Since you're interested in the period, John B., perhaps you'd like to answer this riddle:
The Romans imported enormous amountseeee of wheat from Egypt. What did they export in return in sufficient amounts to pay for all this grain?

Andre Jute
One of the disadvantages of a classical education is the sheer number of unanswered questions


Not only. Grain in large amounts from across North Africa
and Asia Minor ( imperium oriens) too. My understanding is
that the tax was paid in grain so, as with taxes right here
right now, taxpayer gets nothing. OK, maybe lack of
persecution, which has value. If you discover more on this,
I'm interested; write me.

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Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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  #52  
Old April 25th 18, 04:48 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 4/25/2018 9:22 AM, AMuzi wrote:
... as with taxes right here right now, taxpayer gets nothing.


Nothing?

Around here, we get roads, sidewalks, police services, fire department
services, street lighting, public schools, parks, zoning, etc.

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- Frank Krygowski
  #53  
Old April 26th 18, 01:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:22:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 4/24/2018 7:58 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:14:01 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 07:51:23 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2018-04-23 17:48, John B. wrote:

[...]

The Roman Legions apparently marched for about 2/3rds of a day
carrying their gear and weapons - a Century did have several mule
carts assigned for carrying tents and other gear - and then built a
camp before "falling out" for the night. According to Caesar's reports
from Gaul this went on for days at a time.


You believe Caesar's writers? I never did. Whenever they got beaten the
snot out of them they wrote "the winds were unfavorable" or whatever. If
they wrote the truth they'd likely have "disappeared".

Caesar was essentially a politician and wrote his reports specifically
to keep his name before both the population and the rulers of Rome
while he was absent from the city (I believe that he paid to have them
read publicly) and thus they were always complementary. However other
evidence does show that he generally did accomplish when he claimed to
have done.

For example, he claimed to have sold some 53,000 Adualeui into slavery
and independent sources show that the price of slaves in the
Mediterranean area dropped to all time lows in the same period, which
would tend to demonstrate that there was a large influx of slaves,
from somewhere, during this period.
--
Cheers,

John B.


Since you're interested in the period, John B., perhaps you'd like to answer this riddle:
The Romans imported enormous amountseeee of wheat from Egypt. What did they export in return in sufficient amounts to pay for all this grain?

Andre Jute
One of the disadvantages of a classical education is the sheer number of unanswered questions


Not only. Grain in large amounts from across North Africa
and Asia Minor ( imperium oriens) too. My understanding is
that the tax was paid in grain so, as with taxes right here
right now, taxpayer gets nothing. OK, maybe lack of
persecution, which has value. If you discover more on this,
I'm interested; write me.


The Roman Empire, from the earliest days, depended largely on
conquering territories and exploiting them. (which was one of the
reasons for it's ultimate failure) Under the Roman scheme tax payers,
or perhaps more accurately conquered peoples, were placed on earth to
pay taxes. The idea that tax payers should benefit from the taxes
paid, other in a very broad sense, that Rome would station troops in
the taxed territory to protect it from "foreign" invasion, and of
course enforce Roman laws and see that the tax was paid in a timely
manner.

In fact, I suspect that the idea that a tax payer should benefit from
the taxes paid is a relatively modern idea. Certainly in the 1700's
the taxes that the Colonies were paying did not benefit them greatly,
at least in their opinion. The English argued that part of the reason
for the taxes was to support English troops in the colonies which
protected the English colonies from the French and Indians. The
Colonies argued that the war was over. :-)


--
Cheers,

John B.

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Old April 26th 18, 02:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:56:50 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:

right, then four months ago, this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ain-found.html
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


The Daily Mail signals what sort of an authority it is by placing this "history" right next to a link to some F-grade celebrity discussing standing her mom a designer vagina just like her own.

However, I don't doubt that they're very likely right. This history, which the Daily Mail describes as new, was taught to schoolboys in the 1950s and 1960s. All the same, Ceasar's "three clues" describe every open bay around most of the British coast line, as anyone who ever took part in the Round Britain race can tell you; hell, much of the Irish coastline along the Irish channel can be described in exactly the same terms as the "three clues"; by that description, Ceasar was not much of a navigator! The significant clue is actually the white cliffs, because those chalk cliffs at and near Dover are truly distinctive.

AJ
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Old April 26th 18, 02:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 2:22:35 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/24/2018 7:58 PM, Andre Jute wrote:


.... perhaps you'd like to answer this riddle:
The Romans imported enormous amountseeee of wheat from Egypt. What did they export in return in sufficient amounts to pay for all this grain?

Andre Jute
One of the disadvantages of a classical education is the sheer number of unanswered questions


Not only. Grain in large amounts from across North Africa
and Asia Minor ( imperium oriens) too. My understanding is
that the tax was paid in grain so, as with taxes right here
right now, taxpayer gets nothing. OK, maybe lack of
persecution, which has value. If you discover more on this,
I'm interested; write me.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


For thoughtful economic historians, the actual amounts of grain are a stumbling block to the "tax theory". In short, most of them believe that the colonies would have fought rather than give over that much grain.

Compulsory On-Topic Paragraph: Ever wondered how much bigger the Roman Empire could have become if its legions travelled on bicycles? The Italians actually had bicycle troops stationed in North Africa at the outbreak of WWII, and the Swiss may well still have bicycle troops.

AJ
Only the Germans pronounce Caesar correctly
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Old April 26th 18, 01:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 4/25/2018 8:50 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 2:22:35 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/24/2018 7:58 PM, Andre Jute wrote:


.... perhaps you'd like to answer this riddle:
The Romans imported enormous amountseeee of wheat from Egypt. What did they export in return in sufficient amounts to pay for all this grain?

Andre Jute
One of the disadvantages of a classical education is the sheer number of unanswered questions


Not only. Grain in large amounts from across North Africa
and Asia Minor ( imperium oriens) too. My understanding is
that the tax was paid in grain so, as with taxes right here
right now, taxpayer gets nothing. OK, maybe lack of
persecution, which has value. If you discover more on this,
I'm interested; write me.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


For thoughtful economic historians, the actual amounts of grain are a stumbling block to the "tax theory". In short, most of them believe that the colonies would have fought rather than give over that much grain.

Compulsory On-Topic Paragraph: Ever wondered how much bigger the Roman Empire could have become if its legions travelled on bicycles? The Italians actually had bicycle troops stationed in North Africa at the outbreak of WWII, and the Swiss may well still have bicycle troops.

AJ
Only the Germans pronounce Caesar correctly


Swiss Army bicycles spanned 1891 through 2001 and then the
program ended.

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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Old April 26th 18, 02:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:34:41 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/25/2018 8:50 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 2:22:35 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/24/2018 7:58 PM, Andre Jute wrote:


.... perhaps you'd like to answer this riddle:
The Romans imported enormous amountseeee of wheat from Egypt. What did they export in return in sufficient amounts to pay for all this grain?

Andre Jute
One of the disadvantages of a classical education is the sheer number of unanswered questions

Not only. Grain in large amounts from across North Africa
and Asia Minor ( imperium oriens) too. My understanding is
that the tax was paid in grain so, as with taxes right here
right now, taxpayer gets nothing. OK, maybe lack of
persecution, which has value. If you discover more on this,
I'm interested; write me.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


For thoughtful economic historians, the actual amounts of grain are a stumbling block to the "tax theory". In short, most of them believe that the colonies would have fought rather than give over that much grain.

Compulsory On-Topic Paragraph: Ever wondered how much bigger the Roman Empire could have become if its legions travelled on bicycles? The Italians actually had bicycle troops stationed in North Africa at the outbreak of WWII, and the Swiss may well still have bicycle troops.

AJ
Only the Germans pronounce Caesar correctly


Swiss Army bicycles spanned 1891 through 2001 and then the
program ended.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


A few years ago I saw some ads for surplus Swiss Army bikes, but they looked hefty enough not to disturb the rider if he ran over a weight weenie. I stumbled across them while looking for Swiss Army surplus leather saddles, made for them in The Netherlands by Lepper; the surplus was more expensive than the same thing wholesaled by the maker and sold in shops in Holland. This looks like it:

Chalo liked Lepper saddles. I bought a Brooks instead at less than half the price at a sale at SJS and haven't regretted it for one moment.

AJ

 




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