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Old May 4th 18, 10:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey
in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a
stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a
driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then
blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could
have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang
on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and
insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not
impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes
it alright.)

Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual
courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block
her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist,
because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of
German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let
the woman past.

It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own
time over it.
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Old May 4th 18, 11:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote:
Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey
in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a
stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a
driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then
blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could
have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang
on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and
insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not
impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes
it alright.)

Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual
courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block
her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist,
because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of
German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let
the woman past.

It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own
time over it.


Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic
crossing the entrances to those driveways.

You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story.

[* Those moving in and out of driveways nevertheless usually choose not
to assert their priority, but that does not diminish their right to do
so if they feel like.]

  #3  
Old May 4th 18, 11:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote:
Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the
journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I
was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly
barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a
step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly
pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a
few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for
licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But
if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered,
taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.)

Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual
courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to
block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the
non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not
protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist
then reversed back to let the woman past.

It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my
own time over it.


Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic
crossing the entrances to those driveways.

Rubbish.

You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story.


It is a true story.

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Old May 4th 18, 11:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 04/05/2018 23:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote:
Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the
journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I
was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly
barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a
step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly
pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a
few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for
licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But
if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered,
taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.)

Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as
usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue
to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the
non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not
protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist
then reversed back to let the woman past.

It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my
own time over it.


Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic
crossing the entrances to those driveways.


Rubbish.


Don't be stupid (assuming you can help it).

You know as well as everyone else that cyclists using footway cycling
facilities are under a duty to give way to proper traffic at every
driveway entrance. This is often given as one of the reasons for
preferring the carriageway.

You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story.


It is a true story.


Yeah, right.
  #5  
Old May 5th 18, 11:38 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 04/05/18 23:47, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 23:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote:
Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the
journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I
was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly
barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a
step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an
elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my
mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be
impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists
to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being
licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.)

Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as
usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue
to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the
non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not
protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist
then reversed back to let the woman past.

It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my
own time over it.

Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic
crossing the entrances to those driveways.


Rubbish.


Don't be stupid (assuming you can help it).

You know as well as everyone else that cyclists using footway cycling
facilities are under a duty to give way to proper traffic at every
driveway entrance. This is often given as one of the reasons for
preferring the carriageway.


Nobody was riding a bike on the footway. Which bit of "causing a woman
with a pushchair to take a step back" did you fail to comprehend?

You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story.


It is a true story.


Yeah, right.


So I was right, drivers can do no wrong in your eyes.
  #6  
Old May 5th 18, 02:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 05/05/2018 11:38, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/05/18 23:47, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 23:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote:
Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the
journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I
was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly
barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a
step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an
elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my
mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be
impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists
to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being
licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.)

Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as
usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the
queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at
the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not
protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist
then reversed back to let the woman past.

It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my
own time over it.

Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic
crossing the entrances to those driveways.


Rubbish.


Don't be stupid (assuming you can help it).

You know as well as everyone else that cyclists using footway cycling
facilities are under a duty to give way to proper traffic at every
driveway entrance. This is often given as one of the reasons for
preferring the carriageway.


Nobody was riding a bike on the footway.


That does not matter. The fact that cyclists are under a duty to give
way at such locations is merely an indication that all users of the
route are under the same obligation. The rules are not different for
cyclists (though cyclists often behave as though they are).

Which bit of "causing a woman
with a pushchair to take a step back" did you fail to comprehend?


That happens every day. Every minute, in fact, when pedestrians fail to
recognise priority of other modes (in certain situations). I've done it
myself as a pedestrian. So have you. And I've seen countless examples of
adults pushing prams, etc, where they push the pram out into the
carriageway whilst waiting for passing traffic to... er... pass. People
do the daftest things Sometimes it's becuause they don't know the rules.

You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story.


It is a true story.


Yeah, right.


So I was right, drivers can do no wrong in your eyes.


People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a
driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a
bike, in a car, etc.

You knew that.

That's why bikes on footways have to give way at every driveway.

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Old May 5th 18, 03:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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On 05/05/2018 14:40, JNugent wrote:
On 05/05/2018 11:38, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/05/18 23:47, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 23:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote:
Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the
journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike.
I was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly
barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take
a step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an
elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my
mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be
impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured
non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible,
being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it
alright.)

Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as
usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the
queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at
the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not
protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said
non-cyclist then reversed back to let the woman past.

It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of
my own time over it.

Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic
crossing the entrances to those driveways.

Rubbish.

Don't be stupid (assuming you can help it).

You know as well as everyone else that cyclists using footway cycling
facilities are under a duty to give way to proper traffic at every
driveway entrance. This is often given as one of the reasons for
preferring the carriageway.


Nobody was riding a bike on the footway.


That does not matter. The fact that cyclists are under a duty to give
way at such locations is merely an indication that all users of the
route are under the same obligation. The rules are not different for
cyclists (though cyclists often behave as though they are).

Which bit of "causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back"
did you fail to comprehend?


That happens every day. Every minute, in fact, when pedestrians fail to
recognise priority of other modes (in certain situations). I've done it
myself as a pedestrian. So have you. And I've seen countless examples of
adults pushing prams, etc, where they push the pram out into the
carriageway whilst waiting for passing traffic to... er... pass. People
do the daftest things Sometimes it's becuause they don't know the rules.

You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story.

It is a true story.

Yeah, right.


So I was right, drivers can do no wrong in your eyes.


People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a
driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a
bike, in a car, etc.

You knew that.

That's why bikes on footways have to give way at every driveway.


If it is a footway exclusively then the bicycle should be pushed, not
ridden.
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Old May 6th 18, 11:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 05/05/18 14:40, JNugent wrote:

People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a
bike, in a car, etc.


Quote the statute. If you are able to then it is a bad law.

You knew that.

If it exists, it is trumped by a requirement for a driver to always have
a duty of care. Barging out and causing a pedestrian to step back is
lack of care.
  #9  
Old May 7th 18, 08:55 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 06/05/18 23:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 05/05/18 14:40, JNugent wrote:

People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a
driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a

bike, in a car, etc.


Quote the statute. If you are able to then it is a bad law.


You are active because have replied to another thread since my request.
Nothing to support your idea?

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Old May 7th 18, 03:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 07/05/2018 08:55, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/05/18 23:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 05/05/18 14:40, JNugent wrote:

People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a
driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a

Â* bike, in a car, etc.

Quote the statute. If you are able to then it is a bad law.


You are active because have replied to another thread since my request.
Nothing to support your idea?


What are you talking about?
 




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