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  #21  
Old May 8th 18, 02:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Pedestrians need more hi-vis and walking helmets

On 08/05/2018 08:58, TMS320 wrote:

On 07/05/18 15:55, JNugent wrote:
On 06/05/2018 23:28, TMS320 wrote:


I expect the pavement was blocked by a load of abandoned vehicles
as in the picture which forced her to walk in the road.


Cowling Brow, Chorley? There is a footway on either side of the road.
But you prefer - for understandable reasons - to believe that an
elderly and vulnerable lady pedestrian was walking down the middle of
the carriageway.


What is a strong *possibility* has already been written. Please try to
read posts in their entirety before reply.


You didn't wrote it as a mere possibility.

You wrote that the cyclist's victim was to blame because she'd been out
on the carriageway, just as if no cyclist ever hurtled along the
footway, as a confident account of what you expected to have happened.
You adnmitted of no other possibility than the cyclist being blameless.

Sensible people are well aware that the liklihood of the cyclist being
blameless and the elderly victim blameworthy (which is what you believe)
to be very low indeed.

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  #22  
Old May 8th 18, 08:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Pedestrians need more hi-vis and walking helmets

On 08/05/18 14:05, JNugent wrote:
On 08/05/2018 08:58, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/05/18 15:55, JNugent wrote:
On 06/05/2018 23:28, TMS320 wrote:


I expect the pavement was blocked by a load of abandoned vehicles
as in the picture which forced her to walk in the road.


Cowling Brow, Chorley? There is a footway on either side of the road.
But you prefer - for understandable reasons - to believe that an
elderly and vulnerable lady pedestrian was walking down the middle of
the carriageway.


What is a strong *possibility* has already been written. Please try to
read posts in their entirety before reply.


You didn't wrote it as a mere possibility.


How does "I expect" not express a possibity?

You wrote that the cyclist's victim was to blame because she'd been out
on the carriageway,


The general idea is to read and try to comprehend what has been written,
not to regurtitate something that you wish had been written.

just as if no cyclist ever hurtled along the
footway, as a confident account of what you expected to have happened.
You adnmitted of no other possibility than the cyclist being blameless.

What on earth are you wittering on about?

Sensible people are well aware that the liklihood of the cyclist being
blameless and the elderly victim blameworthy (which is what you believe)
to be very low indeed.


That paragraph is essentially correct. However, sensible people are also
well aware that drivers frequently abandon their vehicles in a way that
blocks the pavement.
  #23  
Old May 8th 18, 08:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Pedestrians need more hi-vis and walking helmets

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 8:58:38 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

What is a strong *possibility* has already been written. Please try to
read posts in their entirety before reply.


+1

More details.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...omments-anchor

QUOTE:

Those cyclists are becoming a pain in the ar*e same as folk with extending dog leads! To*sers. thats what i think anyhow..........

Last Updated: 7th May 12:20 am
6
HelmshoreMan2010 5th May 5:41 pm


Do you know what happened? You really should contact the police if you are a witness.

++++++++++++++++If you aren't a witness you should keep your opinionated gob shut as anything could have happened here so speculating serves no purpose.++++++++++++++++ EMPHASIS MINE.


AND!

+++++++++++++++++++Hold on the cyclist it says was on the road. Should it not be up to the pedestrian to see if it's safe to walk into the road. Just asking. Oh and by the way I am not a cyclist.++++++++++++++++++++

  #24  
Old May 8th 18, 08:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 8:01:26 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


That paragraph is essentially correct. However, sensible people are also
well aware that drivers frequently abandon their vehicles in a way that
blocks the pavement.


Indeed.

QUOTE:

Drivers on the pavement kill +++++ten times++++++ 10TIMES! as many people every year as cyclists do in all circumstances. It was a driver on the pavement who killed the four year old girl in Liverpool. Drivers use the pavement for their convenience. The price we pay is children crushed to death under their wheel.

Our old friends the ABD are at it again.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/b...avement-226403
  #25  
Old May 8th 18, 11:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Pedestrians need more hi-vis and walking helmets

On 08/05/18 20:01, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/05/18 14:05, JNugent wrote:


Sensible people are well aware that the liklihood of the cyclist being
blameless and the elderly victim blameworthy (which is what you
believe) to be very low indeed.


That paragraph is essentially correct.


I should add, if the part in brackets is removed. What makes you think
you know what I believe? I recently related an event about a pedestrian
that had to step back and *you* defended the driver.
  #26  
Old May 9th 18, 01:48 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Pedestrians need more hi-vis and walking helmets

On 08/05/2018 20:01, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/05/18 14:05, JNugent wrote:
On 08/05/2018 08:58, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/05/18 15:55, JNugent wrote:
On 06/05/2018 23:28, TMS320 wrote:


I expect the pavement was blocked by a load of abandoned vehicles
as in the picture which forced her to walk in the road.


Cowling Brow, Chorley? There is a footway on either side of the
road. But you prefer - for understandable reasons - to believe that
an elderly and vulnerable lady pedestrian was walking down the
middle of the carriageway.


What is a strong *possibility* has already been written. Please try
to read posts in their entirety before reply.


You didn't wrote it as a mere possibility.


How does "I expect" not express a possibity?

You wrote that the cyclist's victim was to blame because she'd been
out on the carriageway,


The general idea is to read and try to comprehend what has been written,
not to regurtitate something that you wish had been written.

just as if no cyclist ever hurtled along the footway, as a confident
account of what you expected to have happened. You adnmitted of no
other possibility than the cyclist being blameless.

What on earth are you wittering on about?

Sensible people are well aware that the liklihood of the cyclist being
blameless and the elderly victim blameworthy (which is what you
believe) to be very low indeed.


That paragraph is essentially correct.


I know it is. You didn't need to tell me that.

However, sensible people are also
well aware that drivers frequently abandon their vehicles in a way that
blocks the pavement.


I don't know about "frequently" (that just sounds like more of your
sociopathic hyperbole), but even so, so what?

There isn't the slightest evidence to suggest that the elderly victim of
the cyclist was walking in the middle of the road or that she had any
reason to do so.

But everyone knows that cyclists (well, many of them, and that probably
means most) regard themselves as entitled to hurtle along footways.
  #27  
Old May 9th 18, 01:54 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Pedestrians need more hi-vis and walking helmets

On 08/05/2018 23:51, TMS320 wrote:

On 08/05/18 20:01, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/05/18 14:05, JNugent wrote:


Sensible people are well aware that the liklihood of the cyclist
being blameless and the elderly victim blameworthy (which is what you
believe) to be very low indeed.


That paragraph is essentially correct.


I should add, if the part in brackets is removed. What makes you think
you know what I believe?


You betray your beliefs every time you post.

You could not care less about pedestrians. Whenever a cyclist kills or
injures a pedestrian, it's always the victim's fault as far as you are
concerned. There are no lengths, no extensions of illogical thought, to
which you will not descend in order to suggest - almost always, as in
the instant case, without evidence and in the face of the experience of
peope with eyes to see - that the cyclist was entirely innocent and that
the big bad 90-yr-old woman (or whoever) was, must have, been to blame.

I recently related an event about a pedestrian
that had to step back and *you* defended the driver.


Straightforward experience. I have stepped out in front of traffic
myself and then realised my mistake. I have seen lots of silly people
push prams off footways into the carriageway even as traffic is
approaching. You have seen it too.

  #28  
Old May 9th 18, 08:35 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Pedestrians need more hi-vis and walking helmets

On 09/05/18 01:54, JNugent wrote:
On 08/05/2018 23:51, TMS320 wrote:

On 08/05/18 20:01, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/05/18 14:05, JNugent wrote:


Sensible people are well aware that the liklihood of the cyclist
being blameless and the elderly victim blameworthy (which is what
you believe) to be very low indeed.


That paragraph is essentially correct.


I should add, if the part in brackets is removed. What makes you think
you know what I believe?


You betray your beliefs every time you post.

You could not care less about pedestrians. Whenever a cyclist kills or
injures a pedestrian, it's always the victim's fault as far as you are
concerned.


Oh? Obviously you can quote anything of mine to support that view. Have
you heard of something known as libel?

I recently related an event about a pedestrian that had to step back
and *you* defended the driver.


Straightforward experience. I have stepped out in front of traffic
myself and then realised my mistake.


Let's all hope that one day it will be too late when you realise your
mistake.

I have seen lots of silly people
push prams off footways into the carriageway even as traffic is
approaching. You have seen it too.


Moron. It was about a driver coming out of a driveway.
  #29  
Old May 9th 18, 09:23 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Pedestrians need more hi-vis and walking helmets

On 09/05/18 08:35, TMS320 wrote:
On 09/05/18 01:54, JNugent wrote:
On 08/05/2018 23:51, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/05/18 20:01, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/05/18 14:05, JNugent wrote:


Sensible people are well aware that the liklihood of the cyclist
being blameless and the elderly victim blameworthy (which is what
you believe) to be very low indeed.


That paragraph is essentially correct.


I should add, if the part in brackets is removed. What makes you
think you know what I believe?


You betray your beliefs every time you post.

You could not care less about pedestrians. Whenever a cyclist kills or
injures a pedestrian, it's always the victim's fault as far as you are
concerned.


Oh? Obviously you can quote anything of mine to support that view. Have
you heard of something known as libel?

I recently related an event about a pedestrian that had to step back
and *you* defended the driver.


Straightforward experience. I have stepped out in front of traffic
myself and then realised my mistake.


Let's all hope that one day it will be too late when you realise your
mistake.

I have seen lots of silly people push prams off footways into the
carriageway even as traffic is approaching. You have seen it too.


Moron. It was about a driver coming out of a driveway.


You also give much away when you describe them as "silly".
 




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