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Chemists in the Shadows
In the hard copy edition of Discover Magazine.
It'll show up online eventually but isn't there yet. The article is about Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind Balco and supplier to Tammy Thomas, who apparently ignored dosing advice and went way overboard. He's done his time and is willing to talk about his former profession. F |
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Chemists in the Shadows
On 2/4/2012 6:15 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
In the hard copy edition of Discover Magazine. It'll show up online eventually but isn't there yet. The article is about Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind Balco and supplier to Tammy Thomas, who apparently ignored dosing advice and went way overboard. He's done his time and is willing to talk about his former profession. F A little more detail. Arnold is an industrial chemist making stuff used in hair products. He's a weightlifter. He's bored. He's got time on his hands at work. He starts adding steroid precursors to his orders for lab materials. He starts making simple steroids for personal use in addition to hair chemicals. He's smart enough to recognize an acceptable finished product and eventually gets pretty good at it. He quits his job. Combing through journals he finds a powerful and forgotten steroid from 1961. He and an investor set up a lab in Illinois. Their first product is androstenedione, which he finds in an East German chemical abstract. He makes a ton of money on that. China is a boon to the small chemist, he finds a source for the precursor needed to make the long forgotten steroid from 1961. Tammy Thomas is an early customer, he also sells through Victor Conte and Balco. Thomas is reckless and they realize she will eventually be caught. When that happens their secret steroid will no longer be secret. This provides the motivation to move into developing a totally new substance that will be undetectable. Arnold does this and sells it through Conte. In 2003 a former coach of Marion Jones obtains a syringe of the new steroid and the Balco scandal is off to the races. Very interesting stuff. I doubt there is a shortage of smart Chinese chemists willing to fill the void left by Balco. F |
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On Feb 4, 10:18*pm, Fred Flintstein
wrote: On 2/4/2012 6:15 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote: In the hard copy edition of Discover Magazine. It'll show up online eventually but isn't there yet. The article is about Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind Balco and supplier to Tammy Thomas, who apparently ignored dosing advice and went way overboard. He's done his time and is willing to talk about his former profession. F A little more detail. Arnold is an industrial chemist making stuff used in hair products. He's a weightlifter. He's bored. He's got time on his hands at work. He starts adding steroid precursors to his orders for lab materials. He starts making simple steroids for personal use in addition to hair chemicals. He's smart enough to recognize an acceptable finished product and eventually gets pretty good at it. He quits his job. Combing through journals he finds a powerful and forgotten steroid from 1961. He and an investor set up a lab in Illinois. Their first product is androstenedione, which he finds in an East German chemical abstract. He makes a ton of money on that. China is a boon to the small chemist, he finds a source for the precursor needed to make the long forgotten steroid from 1961. Tammy Thomas is an early customer, he also sells through Victor Conte and Balco. Thomas is reckless and they realize she will eventually be caught. When that happens their secret steroid will no longer be secret. This provides the motivation to move into developing a totally new substance that will be undetectable. Arnold does this and sells it through Conte. In 2003 a former coach of Marion Jones obtains a syringe of the new steroid and the Balco scandal is off to the races. Very interesting stuff. I doubt there is a shortage of smart Chinese chemists willing to fill the void left by Balco. F Good summary, andro is a very weak precurser, a little better than DHEA, but nothing I would consider doping. You can get HGH from any 'life extension" dr. in LA, and as much test as you want by driving into mexico. They will inject your ass for an extra $5. The journalists that cover doping are at least ten years behind...the Schlecks are doing some interesting DNA genome genetic doping stuff, it's really wild. Armstrong was into the blood doping, he'll be dead in about five years. Kidney failure. Shocking to everyone in the world. An expensive Texan science experiment. |
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On 2/4/2012 11:18 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
On 2/4/2012 6:15 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote: In the hard copy edition of Discover Magazine. It'll show up online eventually but isn't there yet. The article is about Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind Balco and supplier to Tammy Thomas, who apparently ignored dosing advice and went way overboard. He's done his time and is willing to talk about his former profession. F A little more detail. Arnold is an industrial chemist making stuff used in hair products. He's a weightlifter. He's bored. He's got time on his hands at work. He starts adding steroid precursors to his orders for lab materials. He starts making simple steroids for personal use in addition to hair chemicals. He's smart enough to recognize an acceptable finished product and eventually gets pretty good at it. He quits his job. Combing through journals he finds a powerful and forgotten steroid from 1961. He and an investor set up a lab in Illinois. Their first product is androstenedione, which he finds in an East German chemical abstract. He makes a ton of money on that. China is a boon to the small chemist, he finds a source for the precursor needed to make the long forgotten steroid from 1961. Tammy Thomas is an early customer, he also sells through Victor Conte and Balco. Thomas is reckless and they realize she will eventually be caught. When that happens their secret steroid will no longer be secret. This provides the motivation to move into developing a totally new substance that will be undetectable. Arnold does this and sells it through Conte. In 2003 a former coach of Marion Jones obtains a syringe of the new steroid and the Balco scandal is off to the races. Very interesting stuff. I doubt there is a shortage of smart Chinese chemists willing to fill the void left by Balco. F The article is online now. http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar...und-chemistry/ F |
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On 26/04/2012 19:19, Fred Flintstein wrote:
On 2/4/2012 11:18 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote: On 2/4/2012 6:15 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote: In the hard copy edition of Discover Magazine. It'll show up online eventually but isn't there yet. The article is about Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind Balco and supplier to Tammy Thomas, who apparently ignored dosing advice and went way overboard. He's done his time and is willing to talk about his former profession. F A little more detail. Arnold is an industrial chemist making stuff used in hair products. He's a weightlifter. He's bored. He's got time on his hands at work. He starts adding steroid precursors to his orders for lab materials. He starts making simple steroids for personal use in addition to hair chemicals. He's smart enough to recognize an acceptable finished product and eventually gets pretty good at it. He quits his job. Combing through journals he finds a powerful and forgotten steroid from 1961. He and an investor set up a lab in Illinois. Their first product is androstenedione, which he finds in an East German chemical abstract. He makes a ton of money on that. China is a boon to the small chemist, he finds a source for the precursor needed to make the long forgotten steroid from 1961. Tammy Thomas is an early customer, he also sells through Victor Conte and Balco. Thomas is reckless and they realize she will eventually be caught. When that happens their secret steroid will no longer be secret. This provides the motivation to move into developing a totally new substance that will be undetectable. Arnold does this and sells it through Conte. In 2003 a former coach of Marion Jones obtains a syringe of the new steroid and the Balco scandal is off to the races. Very interesting stuff. I doubt there is a shortage of smart Chinese chemists willing to fill the void left by Balco. F The article is online now. http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar...und-chemistry/ And the poor saps at the London Olympics insist this is gonna be the cleanest games ever. |
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Fred Flintstein wrote: On 2/4/2012 11:18 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote: On 2/4/2012 6:15 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote: In the hard copy edition of Discover Magazine. It'll show up online eventually but isn't there yet. The article is about Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind Balco and supplier to Tammy Thomas, who apparently ignored dosing advice and went way overboard. He's done his time and is willing to talk about his former profession. F A little more detail. Arnold is an industrial chemist making stuff used in hair products. He's a weightlifter. He's bored. He's got time on his hands at work. He starts adding steroid precursors to his orders for lab materials. He starts making simple steroids for personal use in addition to hair chemicals. He's smart enough to recognize an acceptable finished product and eventually gets pretty good at it. He quits his job. Combing through journals he finds a powerful and forgotten steroid from 1961. He and an investor set up a lab in Illinois. Their first product is androstenedione, which he finds in an East German chemical abstract. He makes a ton of money on that. China is a boon to the small chemist, he finds a source for the precursor needed to make the long forgotten steroid from 1961. Tammy Thomas is an early customer, he also sells through Victor Conte and Balco. Thomas is reckless and they realize she will eventually be caught. When that happens their secret steroid will no longer be secret. This provides the motivation to move into developing a totally new substance that will be undetectable. Arnold does this and sells it through Conte. In 2003 a former coach of Marion Jones obtains a syringe of the new steroid and the Balco scandal is off to the races. Very interesting stuff. I doubt there is a shortage of smart Chinese chemists willing to fill the void left by Balco. The article is online now. http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar...und-chemistry/ This is hilarious. Long ago I knew a gent who did that kind of thing. It was always about finding syntheses and precursors to a given end. -- Old Fritz |
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On 4/26/2012 1:19 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
On 2/4/2012 11:18 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote: On 2/4/2012 6:15 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote: In the hard copy edition of Discover Magazine. It'll show up online eventually but isn't there yet. The article is about Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind Balco and supplier to Tammy Thomas, who apparently ignored dosing advice and went way overboard. He's done his time and is willing to talk about his former profession. F A little more detail. Arnold is an industrial chemist making stuff used in hair products. He's a weightlifter. He's bored. He's got time on his hands at work. He starts adding steroid precursors to his orders for lab materials. He starts making simple steroids for personal use in addition to hair chemicals. He's smart enough to recognize an acceptable finished product and eventually gets pretty good at it. He quits his job. Combing through journals he finds a powerful and forgotten steroid from 1961. He and an investor set up a lab in Illinois. Their first product is androstenedione, which he finds in an East German chemical abstract. He makes a ton of money on that. China is a boon to the small chemist, he finds a source for the precursor needed to make the long forgotten steroid from 1961. Tammy Thomas is an early customer, he also sells through Victor Conte and Balco. Thomas is reckless and they realize she will eventually be caught. When that happens their secret steroid will no longer be secret. This provides the motivation to move into developing a totally new substance that will be undetectable. Arnold does this and sells it through Conte. In 2003 a former coach of Marion Jones obtains a syringe of the new steroid and the Balco scandal is off to the races. Very interesting stuff. I doubt there is a shortage of smart Chinese chemists willing to fill the void left by Balco. F The article is online now. http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar...und-chemistry/ F Hahahahaha! Looks like I called it! Gold medals in swimming are not won in the pool. They're won in the lab in China. And I'll bet not a single Olympic athlete gets popped for steroids. F |
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Chemists in the Shadows
Fred Flintstein wrote:
And I'll bet not a single Olympic athlete gets popped for steroids. Apart from the weightlifters, but they're unlikely to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier. |
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Chemists in the Shadows
On 31/07/2012 21:23, Simply Fred wrote:
Fred Flintstein wrote: And I'll bet not a single Olympic athlete gets popped for steroids. Apart from the weightlifters, but they're unlikely to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier. Some of the horses are pretty illiterate too. -- |
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