Responsibility of Adult on Ride

Let us say you are over thirty, and leaving on a day long ride, and the kid
down the street who is around sixteen asks to go along, and you say sure no
problem. If that kid is hurt on the ride are you as the adult responsible
even if what happened you had no control over? Do you need to get a wavier
from the parent before you allow the kid to go along? What if you are
nineteen, and the kid is sixteen which I am sure happens. Is it the same
situation since anyone over eighteen is considered an adult.

Thanks

Tom

Interesting. I remember starting group rides with the local racing team
when I was 15. I never once considered what the possible liabilities
were for the adults. Now, almost 15 years later, that is a very real
concern.

If a kid asked to join me on a ride I think I would definitely seek out
the parents and make sure they know what is involved.

mary wrote:

Let us say you are over thirty, and leaving on a day long ride, and the kid
down the street who is around sixteen asks to go along, and you say sure no
problem. If that kid is hurt on the ride are you as the adult responsible
even if what happened you had no control over? Do you need to get a wavier
from the parent before you allow the kid to go along? What if you are
nineteen, and the kid is sixteen which I am sure happens. Is it the same
situation since anyone over eighteen is considered an adult.

Thanks

Tom

".o0 0o." wrote in
:
If a kid asked to join me on a ride I think I would definitely seek out
the parents and make sure they know what is involved.

I agree. A signed waiver isn't necessary unless you're really paranoid. But
do get verbal permission from the parents and make sure they know where the
kid is going. Also, get contact info in case there is an emergency.

kid is going. Also, get contact info in case there is an emergency.

Another good point. I never go out on my bike without ID, contact info
and my insurance card!

"mary" writes:

Let us say you are over thirty, and leaving on a day long ride, and
the kid down the street who is around sixteen asks to go along, and
you say sure no problem. If that kid is hurt on the ride are you as
the adult responsible even if what happened you had no control over?
Do you need to get a wavier from the parent before you allow the kid
to go along? What if you are nineteen, and the kid is sixteen which
I am sure happens. Is it the same situation since anyone over
eighteen is considered an adult.

Well, you'd need to consult with a lawyer to get a definitive picture
of what the liability laws in your area are. To be honest, as a 44
year old guy I wouldn't go anywhere with a 16 year old kid of either
gender without witnesses- preferably one of his or her parents.

mary wrote:

Let us say you are over thirty, and leaving on a day long ride, and the kid
down the street who is around sixteen asks to go along, and you say sure no
problem. If that kid is hurt on the ride are you as the adult responsible
even if what happened you had no control over? Do you need to get a wavier
from the parent before you allow the kid to go along? What if you are
nineteen, and the kid is sixteen which I am sure happens. Is it the same
situation since anyone over eighteen is considered an adult.

I just ask the kid is it is okay with his parents and go.
There is no way I accept responsibility for any kid who visits my place
either.

My 2c is that it doesn't matter what you do. If the parents are
arseholes, it doesn't matter what you get them to sign.

I just take the view that the kid can tag along if he wants to. There is
nothing to stop him/her/it riding in the same direction that I am. At 16
I was going off for 50+kms day rides akk over the country.