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Old November 25th 08, 06:07 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Tom Sherman[_3_]
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Default Say it ain't so Joe! (er Randy)

First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket. USians
are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to sell
their best value models.

[1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.

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1999 RANS Wave to Tailwind conversion
2000 RANS Rocket
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Old November 25th 08, 11:21 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket. USians
are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to sell their
best value models.

[1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.

Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
1999 RANS Wave to Tailwind conversion
2000 RANS Rocket


The Rocket was doomed from the moment RANS came up with the V-Rex. The
Rocket was a good run around town sort of recumbent, but so is the V-Rex
with the added advantage that it is also good for touring. A small rear
wheel does not really make much sense.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old November 25th 08, 07:30 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Luddite Wacko[_3_]
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Tom Sherman wrote:
} First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket.
} USians are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to
} sell their best value models.
}
} [1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.
}
Add to that the downsizing of Rotator. 20/20s are becoming few and far
between.
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Old November 26th 08, 12:26 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Tom Sherman[_3_]
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
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First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket. USians
are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to sell their
best value models.

[1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.


The Rocket was doomed from the moment RANS came up with the V-Rex. The
Rocket was a good run around town sort of recumbent, but so is the V-Rex
with the added advantage that it is also good for touring. A small rear
wheel does not really make much sense.

Sorry Ed, but the V-Rex came first. The Rocket was conceived as a less
expensive alternative.

The Rocket is better for touring than the V-Rex, since it has the same
size wheels and a stiffer rear triangle.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.
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Old November 26th 08, 12:27 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Tom Sherman[_3_]
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"Luddite Wacko" wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
} First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket.
} USians are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to
} sell their best value models.
}
} [1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.
}
Add to that the downsizing of Rotator. 20/20s are becoming few and far
between.


Yes, the "bigger is better" USian attitude is hard to overcome.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.
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Old November 26th 08, 01:15 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket. USians
are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to sell
their best value models.

[1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.


The Rocket was doomed from the moment RANS came up with the V-Rex. The
Rocket was a good run around town sort of recumbent, but so is the V-Rex
with the added advantage that it is also good for touring. A small rear
wheel does not really make much sense.

Sorry Ed, but the V-Rex came first. The Rocket was conceived as a less
expensive alternative.

The Rocket is better for touring than the V-Rex, since it has the same
size wheels and a stiffer rear triangle.


The Rocket is NOT better for touring. A small rear wheel means a big chain
wheel up front in order to get proper gearing for the road. The V-Rex is a
solidly built bike and is an ideal recumbent for touring if you like short
wheelbase (which I don't). Besides, big guys look ridiculous on the Rocket.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old November 26th 08, 02:08 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Tom Sherman[_3_]
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket. USians
are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to sell
their best value models.

[1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.

The Rocket was doomed from the moment RANS came up with the V-Rex. The
Rocket was a good run around town sort of recumbent, but so is the V-Rex
with the added advantage that it is also good for touring. A small rear Log
wheel does not really make much sense.

Sorry Ed, but the V-Rex came first. The Rocket was conceived as a less
expensive alternative.

The Rocket is better for touring than the V-Rex, since it has the same
size wheels and a stiffer rear triangle.


The Rocket is NOT better for touring. A small rear wheel means a big chain
wheel up front in order to get proper gearing for the road. The V-Rex is a
solidly built bike and is an ideal recumbent for touring if you like short
wheelbase (which I don't). Besides, big guys look ridiculous on the Rocket.

Touring requires lower gears than general road riding. A standard
52/42/30 triple crank on a Rocket is fine for touring.

See http://www.phred.org/~alex/bikes/rocket.html for a touring Rocket.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.
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Old November 26th 08, 02:38 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
gotbent[_8_]
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
"Luddite Wacko" wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
} First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket. }
USians are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to }
sell their best value models.
}
} [1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.
} Add to that the downsizing of Rotator. 20/20s are becoming few and far
between.


Yes, the "bigger is better" USian attitude is hard to overcome.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.


Still a few 20-20-20 and 16-16-20 and 16-16-16 trikes around.

gotbent aka FRT rider


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Old November 26th 08, 02:57 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket.
USians are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to
sell their best value models.

[1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.

The Rocket was doomed from the moment RANS came up with the V-Rex. The
Rocket was a good run around town sort of recumbent, but so is the
V-Rex with the added advantage that it is also good for touring. A
small rear Log
wheel does not really make much sense.

Sorry Ed, but the V-Rex came first. The Rocket was conceived as a less
expensive alternative.

The Rocket is better for touring than the V-Rex, since it has the same
size wheels and a stiffer rear triangle.


The Rocket is NOT better for touring. A small rear wheel means a big
chain wheel up front in order to get proper gearing for the road. The
V-Rex is a solidly built bike and is an ideal recumbent for touring if
you like short wheelbase (which I don't). Besides, big guys look
ridiculous on the Rocket.

Touring requires lower gears than general road riding. A standard 52/42/30
triple crank on a Rocket is fine for touring.

See http://www.phred.org/~alex/bikes/rocket.html for a touring Rocket.


Yes, it is good for lower gears, but not so good for higher gears without
getting into shifting difficulties. It is also easier to carry some gear on
a V-Rex than on a Rocket, a not unimportant consideration.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old November 26th 08, 03:00 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Tom Sherman[_3_]
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Default Say it ain't so Joe! (er Randy)

gotbent aka FRT rider wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
"Luddite Wacko" wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
} First the Tailwind and Wave are discontinued, and now the Rocket. }
USians are too prejudiced against proper sized [1] wheels for RANS to }
sell their best value models.
}
} [1] ISO 406 and 305 millimeter.
} Add to that the downsizing of Rotator. 20/20s are becoming few and far
between.

Yes, the "bigger is better" USian attitude is hard to overcome.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.


Still a few 20-20-20 and 16-16-20 and 16-16-16 trikes around.

The lateral loads multi-track vehicles apply to wheels make large
diameters problematic.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.
 




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