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Johnny Sunset wrote: Ted Bennett wrote: I, for one, would hate to see bar-end shifters to go the way of the dodo. While not quite as slick as brifters (you do have to move your hand to shift).... I use my thumbs to move the bar-end levers without moving my hands. When I had a broken hand, I could not shift brifters, but could shift bar-cons using the heal of my hand. - rick |
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"Ted Bennett" wrote in message ... In article .com, "Jim" wrote: Hello there, I was reading the Trek Web site, and found the 520 comes with bar-end shifters. What benefits do the Shimano Dura-Ace bar-end shifters offer, compared with modern integrated shifters? Is the 520 the only modern bicycle equipped with bar-end shifters? Thanks in advance. -Jim I, for one, would hate to see bar-end shifters to go the way of the dodo. While not quite as slick as brifters (you do have to move your hand to shift) they do include good things like less cost, more resistance to damage, an ability to switch to friction shift, and usefulness for handlebars of other than drop persuasions. No they're not dead yet, Jim. Some people have a difficult time taking a hand off the bar. My mother being one of them. My dad bought the two of them matching Raleigh touring bikes with stem mounted shifters. Mom wobbled badly when she tried to shift, which she used as an excuse to quit riding. |
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Is the 520 the only modern bicycle equipped with bar-end shifters? Bruce Gordon Cycles: http://www.bgcycles.com/ -tom |
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Luke wrote:
In short, bar-end shifters emphasize durability, versatility (those with indexed and friction modes) and economy; they're more suited to the demands of touring or commuting. I'm not sure if the 520 is the only 'modern'(?) bike equipped with bar-end shifters, but almost any bike with drop bars is a candidate - and with the addition of Pauls Thumbies, MTBs too can be so equipped. Rivendell has bar-end shifter on the Romulus. Personally I like the brifters on a mountain bike, but on a road bike I'd be happier with down tube shifters than bar-ends. If I have to move my hand to shift anyway, then why not go for the true retro-grouch location of shifters. |
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"Gooserider" wrote in message ... Some people have a difficult time taking a hand off the bar. My mother being one of them. My dad bought the two of them matching Raleigh touring bikes with stem mounted shifters. Mom wobbled badly when she tried to shift, which she used as an excuse to quit riding. I think bar-ends are FAR better for novice riders than stem-mounted ones. Stem-mounted ones have the same problem that I have with downtube ones: the require you to move your hand inward. That throws my balance way off, whether I'm reaching for the stem or the downtube. With either brifters or bar-ends, my hands stay at the outside of the bars, acting much the same way as a tightrope walker with a balancing pole. |
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In rec.bicycles.misc Benjamin Lewis wrote:
- some bar-end shifters can be toggled between indexed/friction mode. I have such a shifter, but it has never gone out of adjustment during a ride, so I've never used the friction mode. It's rather handy when you've trashed your rear wheel and don't feel like fiddling with swapping cassettes on the "spare" wheel that has an 8 speed cassette instead of a 9 speed. *cough* Of course, if the "spare" wheel comes from your wife's bike, it might be wise to fix that wheel up a little expeditiously. -- Dane Buson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." --Matt Groening |
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In rec.bicycles.misc P Kl wrote:
The problem is all your mates could have integrated shifters and they will tell you how fantastic they are so you may end up wanting to change . The doubt is already in your mind about not having the integrated shifters.I personally would prefer the barcons. Feh, I did my first ten thousand miles on a bike with brifters. I like them okay. The replacement bike I bought (Surly Crosscheck) came with barcons as standard. It took me a day or two to adjust, and I haven't felt any need to switch back. The durability/simplicity angle is great for commuting, especially since I tend to destroy things as a matter of course. My brifters are rattling around in a drawer, waiting for me to construct a sunny-day road bike. [1] [1] I live in Seattle, I already own a rainy-day bike. -- Dane Buson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g "Ubi non accusator, ibi non judex." (Where there is no police, there is no speed limit.) -- Roman Law, trans. Petr Beckmann (1971) |
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I read this thread and am amazed at the number of riders who are in
such remote, mission critical situations with their bikes that the added reliability of bar-ends over integrated brake/shifters is a big factor. Wow, are you guys all doing unsupported tours across Societ Central Asia or something? JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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In rec.bicycles.misc John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
I read this thread and am amazed at the number of riders who are in such remote, mission critical situations with their bikes that the added reliability of bar-ends over integrated brake/shifters is a big factor. Wow, are you guys all doing unsupported tours across Societ Central Asia or something? Just commuting to work mostly. If my bike doesn't work, I'm left with the alternatives of the bus (boring, inconvenient) or *shudder*, driving the car to work. The latter would also inconvienence the wife and make me cranky in general. I'd rather not be stuck with the bus or car while I'm waiting for the bike shop to fix whatever is wrong with my bike. It's the same kind of reasoning why I use 36 spoke wheels and ride tires like Conti TT2Ks and Schwalbe Marathon pluses. I could and do use the alternative strategy of keeping multiple bikes, but that doesn't help when multiple bikes are out of commission. This happened to me recently when I broke the frame on my Surly, and then while that was in the warranty process I also broke the frame on my grocery bike. -- Dane Buson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g Rick: "How can you close me up? On what grounds?" Renault: "I'm shocked! Shocked! To find that gambling is going on here." Croupier (handing money to Renault): "Your winnings, sir." Renault: "Oh. Thank you very much." |
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Feh, I did my first ten thousand miles on a bike with brifters. I like
them okay. Ah Ha. A virtual newbie virgin to bicycling. I rode my first few thousand road miles on a bike with stem shifters. Then a few thousand miles with downtube shifters. This all happened before Ergo/STI was invented. Then I rode many thousands of miles with bar end shifters after Ergo/STI were invented. Still have the bar end shifters on the touring bike because they work well and have some advantages, as mentioned by many before. Then I finally acquired a bike with Ergo. All subsequent new bikes have Ergo. |
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