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Old August 20th 12, 06:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

It seems to me that the powers that be or want to be intend to drag out this witch hunt until Lances is either broke or found guilty. Here's a link to the article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/judge-d...9521--spt.html

Does any of the money collected by Livestrong go to Lance's defense fund?

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Old August 21st 12, 08:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

Things don't look good for Lance. Lance has very little chance of
winning with the USADA. Lance's only hope is either to appeal to
higher court or the CAS


On Aug 20, 10:47*am, wrote:
It seems to me that the powers that be or want to be intend to drag out this witch hunt until Lances is either broke or found guilty. Here's a link to the article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/judge-d...-case-against-...

Does any of the money collected by Livestrong go to Lance's defense fund?

Cheers


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Old August 21st 12, 03:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Aug 21, 1:01 am, Randall wrote:
Things don't look good for Lance. Lance has very little chance of
winning with the USADA. Lance's only hope is either to appeal to
higher court or the CAS

He probably has no appeal to the CAS until AFTER the initial
arbitration has taken place, and there is little basis for an appeal
to a "higher" court since the judge, as one basis for his decision,
simply declined to exercise his discretion to grant the equitable
relief (injunction) LA had requested.
DR


Yes sorry, I forgot to mention that Lance cannot appeal to the CAS
until after his USADA arbitration hearing. The problem is that the
USADA is acting as judge, jury and prosecutor. The charges in Lance's
case are vague enough to ensure a plausible guilty finding. The CAS
seems biased as well, but I have not see enough evidence to validate
this.

Personally I think Lance should have had the chance to have his case
heard in court. In the end I think Lance will lose and this will be
travesty for cycling.
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Old August 21st 12, 04:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

On Aug 21, 10:35*am, Randall wrote:
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Aug 21, 1:01 am, Randall wrote:
Things don't look good for Lance. Lance has very little chance of
winning with the USADA. Lance's only hope is either to appeal to
higher court or the CAS


He probably has no appeal to the CAS until AFTER the initial
arbitration has taken place, and there is little basis for an appeal
to a "higher" court since the judge, as one basis for his decision,
simply declined to exercise his discretion to grant the equitable
relief (injunction) LA had requested.
DR


Yes sorry, I forgot to mention that Lance cannot appeal to the CAS
until after his USADA arbitration hearing. The problem is that the
USADA is acting as judge, jury and prosecutor. The charges in Lance's
case are vague enough to ensure a plausible guilty finding. The CAS
seems biased as well, but I have not see enough evidence to validate
this.

Personally I think Lance should have had the chance to have his case
heard in court. In the end I think Lance will lose and this will be
travesty for cycling.


the fallout will be the end of livestrong and its help for cancer
sufferers and their families- which I have heard has been very
important. I think it is almost insane that in the name of fairness to
other atheletes the lynch mob is going to crucify Lance and pull the
rug out from under livestrong and those who need their services. the
lives destroyed by cancer are far more important than the integrity of
any sport
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Old August 21st 12, 05:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

On 21/08/2012 16:09, raamman wrote:


the fallout will be the end of livestrong and its help for cancer
sufferers and their families- which I have heard has been very
important. I think it is almost insane that in the name of fairness to
other atheletes the lynch mob is going to crucify Lance and pull the
rug out from under livestrong and those who need their services. the
lives destroyed by cancer are far more important than the integrity of
any sport


That's a troll...right? I mean surely you don't actually believe that ****?
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Old August 21st 12, 06:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

raamman a écrit profondement:


| the fallout will be the end of livestrong and its help for cancer
| sufferers and their families- which I have heard has been very
| important. I think it is almost insane that in the name of fairness to
| other atheletes the lynch mob is going to crucify Lance and pull the
| rug out from under livestrong and those who need their services. the
| lives destroyed by cancer are far more important than the integrity of
| any sport

Nice Troll

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Old August 21st 12, 07:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

On Aug 21, 12:21*pm, atriage wrote:
On 21/08/2012 16:09, raamman wrote:



the fallout will be the end of livestrong and its help for cancer
sufferers and their families- which I have heard has been very
important. I think it is almost insane that in the name of fairness to
other atheletes the lynch mob is going to crucify Lance and pull the
rug out from under livestrong and those who need their services. the
lives destroyed by cancer are far more important than the integrity of
any sport


That's a troll...right? I mean surely you don't actually believe that ****?
--


i don 't know, let us know what happens if you get diagnosed with it
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Old August 22nd 12, 02:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

On 8/21/2012 10:09 AM, raamman wrote:
the fallout will be the end of livestrong and its help for cancer
sufferers and their families- which I have heard has been very
important. I think it is almost insane that in the name of fairness to
other atheletes the lynch mob is going to crucify Lance and pull the
rug out from under livestrong and those who need their services. the
lives destroyed by cancer are far more important than the integrity of
any sport


I think the guy that is worried about fallout is George Hincapie.
The guy that has his name on his business.

F
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Old August 22nd 12, 02:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

On 8/21/2012 8:26 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
On 8/21/2012 10:09 AM, raamman wrote:
the fallout will be the end of livestrong and its help for cancer
sufferers and their families- which I have heard has been very
important. I think it is almost insane that in the name of fairness to
other atheletes the lynch mob is going to crucify Lance and pull the
rug out from under livestrong and those who need their services. the
lives destroyed by cancer are far more important than the integrity of
any sport


I think the guy that is worried about fallout is George Hincapie.
The guy that has his name on his business.

F



As I think about it, Vaughters might be losing sleep also. But that's
the price he pays for all that 'race clean' hypocrisy when your guys
are loading up like everybody else.

F
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Old August 23rd 12, 02:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Judge dismisses Armstrong's case against USADA

On Aug 21, 10:09*am, raamman wrote:
On Aug 21, 10:35*am, Randall wrote:









On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Aug 21, 1:01 am, Randall wrote:
Things don't look good for Lance. Lance has very little chance of
winning with the USADA. Lance's only hope is either to appeal to
higher court or the CAS


He probably has no appeal to the CAS until AFTER the initial
arbitration has taken place, and there is little basis for an appeal
to a "higher" court since the judge, as one basis for his decision,
simply declined to exercise his discretion to grant the equitable
relief (injunction) LA had requested.
DR


Yes sorry, I forgot to mention that Lance cannot appeal to the CAS
until after his USADA arbitration hearing. The problem is that the
USADA is acting as judge, jury and prosecutor. The charges in Lance's
case are vague enough to ensure a plausible guilty finding. The CAS
seems biased as well, but I have not see enough evidence to validate
this.


Personally I think Lance should have had the chance to have his case
heard in court. In the end I think Lance will lose and this will be
travesty for cycling.


the fallout will be the end of livestrong and its help for cancer
sufferers and their families- which I have heard has been very
important. I think it is almost insane that in the name of fairness to
other atheletes the lynch mob is going to crucify Lance and pull the
rug out from under livestrong and those who need their services. the
lives destroyed by cancer are far more important than the integrity of
any sport


I wouldn't think Livestrong would be affected too much. I see it as a
whole different business than cycling and only LA is connected to it
from his development of the program. He associated cycling to it due
to his success in cycling and used cycling for advertisement purpose
only. If LA is found guilty some revenue may be lost, and a few people
may shy away from it's service. But it is a big operation and has done
well for the patients who need it to desolve it due to LA's bad
judgments in life. It will probably pull Lance from it's main focus
and use other venues to help promote it's services.
Coz
 




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