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Problem with Shimano R-535 wheelset
There's reasons alot of people won't ride low spoke count wheels, you just
found one of them. It sounds like it's too late to take them back, but you might consider replacing them with some 32 or 36 hole open pros or similar, they'll go out of true if a spoke breaks, but won't leave you stranded. BTW, you know you are going to start a holy war with that post. Lindsay Brambles wrote: Last year I purchased a new road bike and after having some problems with the stock wheelset that came with the bike I opted to upgrade to Shimano R-535 wheels. Now, however, I have had spokes on the rear wheel break twice in the space of a few weeks. After I purchased the wheels I heard there were some issues with spoke breakage and I'm wondering if anyone else has had such problems. This is a concern for me because on long rides it can be a rather serious issue if I break a spoke far out in the country. Walking any distance in cleated biking shoes is no picnic, and once a spoke has broken on the R-535 the rim is so warped that it's impossible to ride. On the two recent occasions when the spokes broke I was fortunate to be close to a phone, but I'm worried about this happening on when I may be kilometers from the nearest house. (I know: I could carry a cell phone, but I really would have no other use for one, so I don't want to incur the expense just for that. Besides, I'm not always going to be lucky and have some one at home who can come and fetch me.) Anyway, if anyone knows about a problem with the R-535 I'd appreciate knowing. Possibly this is why Shimano brought out the differently laced R-540? BTW, I'm 160 pounds, so I don't think weight can be an issue; the store I bought the wheelset from says the R-535 is supposed to be rated for 240 pounds. I also have made it a point of avoiding potholes and ruts like the plague, as well as crossing rail lines very, very carefully. Thanks for any info you may be able to provide. Lindsay Brambles -- Lindsay H.F. Brambles | * |\ | ----- * | | | \ | / | | | | \ | / | |____ | | \| /____ | -- Mark Wolfe http://www.wolfenet.org gpg fingerprint = 42B6 EFEB 5414 AA18 01B7 64AC EF46 F7E6 82F6 8C71 |
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Problem with Shimano R-535 wheelset
Lindsay Brambles at wrote on 8/21/03 12:49 PM:
Last year I purchased a new road bike and after having some problems with the stock wheelset that came with the bike I opted to upgrade to Shimano R-535 wheels. Now, however, I have had spokes on the rear wheel break twice in the space of a few weeks. After I purchased the wheels I heard there were some issues with spoke breakage and I'm wondering if anyone else has had such problems. This is a concern for me because on long rides it can be a rather serious issue if I break a spoke far out in the country. Walking any distance in cleated biking shoes is no picnic, and once a spoke has broken on the R-535 the rim is so warped that it's impossible to ride. On the two recent occasions when the spokes broke I was fortunate to be close to a phone, but I'm worried about this happening on when I may be kilometers from the nearest house. 'tis the dangers of low spoke count wheels, however, I digress... I haven't heard much complaints about breaking spokes on those. Checked Google Groups Search to confirm - ditto... http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search I only know one person with those wheels, and he's fine with them. You have had wheel problems with the factory (presumably standard type) wheelset - now problems with this set. If you are breaking spokes in both cases, I'd look at the dropout alignment first, then frame alignment. Bike shops should have the proper tools to confirm that everything. While hanging out in the bike shop where you got 'em - a Wednesday or Tuesday morning when the owners there is always best. Politely say, "this really doesn't seem right" and see if they can't get Shimano to replace them. Way back in the grey matter, it seems like one of the early runs had a problem, but I just can't recall specifics. (I know: I could carry a cell phone, but I really would have no other use for one, so I don't want to incur the expense just for that. Besides, I'm not always going to be lucky and have some one at home who can come and fetch me.) Cell phone is worth it, if you ask me. Price of a couple grande burritos and a few cappuccinos per month. Especially if you ride alone (which might be related to those particular food combinations...) Make sure you have coverage for the rural areas in which you ride. Make sure you program in a "HOME" number, so if the paramedics find you unconcious, they can figure out who you are and let folks know. They are nice if you need a bail out or retrieval, but really stellar for BIG problems when you need help NOW. Hope that helps, -- Jim |
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Problem with Shimano R-535 wheelset
Lindsay- BTW, I'm 160 pounds, so I don't think weight can be an issue; the
store I bought the wheelset from says the R-535 is supposed to be rated for 240 pounds. BRBR Pretty funny-240 pounds-. I would say have the wheels replaced by some designed specifially for you and your needs, built by a good wheelbuilder. The bike shop, who will often say things like, 'we don't know about the reliability of these wheels...time will tell'. If they have doubts, they should not sell them, should do someting to get you on reliable wheels. We see few wheels outta boxes that are reliable. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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Problem with Shimano R-535 wheelset
Jim- If you are breaking spokes in both
cases, I'd look at the dropout alignment first, then frame alignment. BRBR ???-Axle problems perhaps, doubt this has anything to do with poor wheel builds.. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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Problem with Shimano R-535 wheelset
tom- The original 535 wheels had a lot of problems with spoke breakage and
also with the wheels pulling to the side when peddled by a really strong rider. This made a grinding noise that some riders would complain about. BRBR Yikes, these wheels, 7700 wheels, SPD-R pedals, SPD-SL cleats, 2003 XTR BB bearings, don't they test these things?? Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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Problem with Shimano R-535 wheelset
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Lindsay Brambles wrote: Last year I purchased a new road bike and after having some problems with the stock wheelset that came with the bike I opted to upgrade to Shimano R-535 wheels. Now, however, I have had spokes on the rear wheel break twice in the space of a few weeks. After I purchased the wheels I heard there were some issues with spoke breakage and I'm wondering if anyone else has had such problems. This won't help you but I've got about 3000 miles on a set of R535s with zero problems. The rear was creaking a bit when I stood on climbs so I tightend the spokes a bit (had to make my own spoke wrench, none of the local shops had any to fit!). I weighed 175lbs when I started back into riding a few years ago, I'm 145 now. I'm fairly careful with equipment but I will wreck badly made rear wheels from standing on climbs. I use a set of "regular" 32h wheels for normal riding now but the R535s are my bombproof backup wheels. They are heavy but I know I can't kill them. Since you had problems with your last wheels, maybe there is something other than the wheels that's causing the problem? Anyway, if anyone knows about a problem with the R-535 I'd appreciate knowing. Possibly this is why Shimano brought out the differently laced R-540? I haven't heard of any problems with the R535s (other than being heavy and having the other drawbacks of low spoke count wheels, many of which you noted). BTW, I'm 160 pounds, so I don't think weight can be an issue; the store I bought the wheelset from says the R-535 is supposed to be rated for 240 pounds. I also have made it a point of avoiding potholes and ruts like the plague, as well as crossing rail lines very, very carefully. Just guessing, but maybe you are killing your wheels because you are not being careful enough about road obstacles? Were the 535s new or used? What happened to your previous wheels? Who retensioned the 535s when the spokes were replaced? With only 16 spokes, they really need to have even tension. Eric |
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spam- This won't help you but I've got about 3000 miles on a set of R535s
with zero problems. The rear was creaking a bit when I stood on climbs so I tightend the spokes a bit (had to make my own spoke wrench, none of the local shops had any to fit!). BRBR Then i guess the problems you had weren't 'zero'... Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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