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Old July 24th 18, 02:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf

Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire
tax, a fixture of Federal budgets since 1918. I'll hold my
breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.
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Old July 24th 18, 11:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf

Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.



That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.



How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume. If
not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.

--
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Old July 25th 18, 01:10 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf

Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.



That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.



How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume. If
not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.


You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes. Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a bicycle. https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html $15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed signal circuit designs.

-- Jay Beattie.





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Old July 25th 18, 02:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 7/24/2018 7:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf

Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.



That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.



How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume. If
not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.


You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes. Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a bicycle. https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html $15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed signal circuit designs.


We haven't had a domestic bicycle tire (or tube) since, oh,
1978? somewhere about then anyway.


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Old July 25th 18, 03:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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AMuzi wrote:
:On 7/24/2018 7:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
: On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
: On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
: Section #114 he
:
: https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf
:
: Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
: of Federal budgets since 1918.
:
:
: That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.
:
:
: ... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.
:
:
: How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume. If
: not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.
:
: You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes. Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a bicycle. https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html $15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in Oregon.
:
: The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed signal circuit designs.

:We haven't had a domestic bicycle tire (or tube) since, oh,
:1978? somewhere about then anyway.

What about our local whacko?



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Old July 25th 18, 03:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 7/24/2018 9:05 PM, David Scheidt wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
:On 7/24/2018 7:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
: On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
: On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
: Section #114 he
:
: https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf
:
: Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
: of Federal budgets since 1918.
:
:
: That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.
:
:
: ... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.
:
:
: How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume. If
: not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.
:
: You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes. Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a bicycle. https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html $15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in Oregon.
:
: The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed signal circuit designs.

:We haven't had a domestic bicycle tire (or tube) since, oh,
:1978? somewhere about then anyway.

What about our local whacko?




My hat's off to Doug Cimperman, and he owns the perseverance
award, but he's not a commercial enterprise.

Yet.

--
Andrew Muzi
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Old July 25th 18, 03:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 7/24/2018 9:54 PM, AMuzi wrote:

We haven't had a domestic bicycle tire (or tube) since, oh, 1978?
somewhere about then anyway.


I visited a fairly new bike shop in Akron, Ohio last week. They proudly
showed some newly available Goodyear bike tires. Goodyear (and B.F.
Goodrich, etc.) were founded in Akron, so there was some local pride
apparent. But I didn't think to ask if the tire was made in America.

BTW, my wife and I were once lucky enough to get a nice ride in a
Goodyear blimp. It's one of our treasured memories, and something not
many people get to enjoy.

Tying things together a bit: Akron has a (tiny) Lighter Than Air
society. http://www.blimpinfo.com/ They and I have some mutual
contacts, and just yesterday I was able to send them an obscure old
article from _Human Power_ magazine about the White Dwarf one person,
pedal powered blimp.

http://home.teleport.com/~reedg/whitedwarf.html

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- Frank Krygowski
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Old July 25th 18, 11:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/24/2018 9:54 PM, AMuzi wrote:

We haven't had a domestic bicycle tire (or tube) since, oh, 1978?
somewhere about then anyway.


I visited a fairly new bike shop in Akron, Ohio last week. They proudly
showed some newly available Goodyear bike tires. Goodyear (and B.F.
Goodrich, etc.) were founded in Akron, so there was some local pride
apparent. But I didn't think to ask if the tire was made in America.


-- Joergville (and Vittoriacitta) abstract: Forget about it, Goodyear would
be big in Cameron Park, but they are NOT made in Thailand! --

Were they made in America, you would not have missed the "Proudly made in
...." labels and flags. They are made "in Taiwan by an as-yet unnamed
manufacturing partner."

So the manufacturing is a limited investment effort. And the designs also
display limited originality. An MTBR contributor claimed,
"There's a Gato clone, a Nobby Nic clone, a Bontrager SE5 copy, and what
looks to be a Maxxis Shorty clone.
Other than the NN, you could do a lot worse when it comes to cloning your
competitors' tires."

Currently, the price ratio of natural rubber / gasoline is unusually low, so
don't forget to ask for a chunky discount or gas coupon when traveling (by
truck or by non-hp blimp) to buy a couple of bicycle tires at a sparkling
new bike shop!
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Old July 27th 18, 12:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf



Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.



That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.



How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume.
If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.


You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip
foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to
pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the
alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from
Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the
other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE
SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal
snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in
Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a
bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html
$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill
yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire
tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike
tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get
them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed
signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared to
where we lived before. That finances bike path among other things and
it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that on fat
pensions and union boondoggles.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Old July 27th 18, 01:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:30:12 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf



Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.


That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.


How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume.
If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.


You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip
foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to
pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the
alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from
Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the
other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE
SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal
snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in
Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a
bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html
$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill
yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire
tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike
tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get
them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed
signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared to
where we lived before. That finances bike path among other things and
it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that on fat
pensions and union boondoggles.


O.K., so where does the money come from? Trees? Property taxes typically don't fund transportation infrastructure, unless you guys passed a bond for bike paths. I doubt that has happened, but who knows -- see if it is a line item on your property tax statement. In your area, funding probably comes from extorting developers, user fees, parking meters, allocated funds from the state, bake sales, church rummage sales and telethons.

The proposed tax on bike tires is a federal excise tax, and that tax would go into the Highway Trust Fund along with gas taxes and car battery taxes, car tire taxes, etc. The Highway Trust Fund may fund certain "transportation alternatives" involving bicycle infrastructure, but those TAs are generally considered frivolous by the Republican administration -- so don't expect your tire tax money to be building a bike path near you anytime soon. DONALD TRUMP IS AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your money and not giving you a path.

Watching the TdF makes me want to move to France . . . to one of those beautiful little towns where it is not clear what anyone does for a living. No strip malls. No I-80. Just picturesque monasteries and winding roads with no traffic -- except for bicycles and support vehicles, and maybe some people dressed up like the devil. I can't imagine why you would give up the Bavarian Alps -- Alphorn and lederhosen -- for Cameron Park.

-- Jay Beattie.

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