another nasty farcility

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:15:40 +0100
Peter Clinch wrote:

Hey ho. I tried them both and landed in the same place, some
glitch-ette in FF3 perhaps? shrug

FF 3.0.2 working fine on Linux.

On 19 Sep, 10:35, "
wrote:

Not being a Cambridge cyclist I can't give a direct response but if I
look closely I can see that traffic proceeding ahead from West to East
is supposed to use the outside lane whilst traffic turning North is
restricted to the nearside lane. *If cycles proceeding East were using
an ordinary cycle lane without a secondary positioning 'filter' lane
they would still need to cross the traffic turning North to position
themselves *to move ahead. *Staying in the nearside lane would place
them in conflict with traffic turning North. *The marking of the lane
draws attention to a manoeuvre which a cyclist would have to make in
any case so could act as a warning to the predictively challenged.

Yeah, from what I can see it doesn't look too bad. At least the lanes
draw attention to the fact that a cyclist might be there, and the
crossing the path of left-turning traffic is something you'd need to
do anyway if the lanes weren't there.

On 19/09/2008 10:15, Peter Clinch said,

Hey ho. I tried them both and landed in the same place, some
glitch-ette in FF3 perhaps? shrug

Works fine in FF3 for me :-)

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Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

"Paul Boyd" wrote in message
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On 19/09/2008 10:15, Peter Clinch said,

Hey ho. I tried them both and landed in the same place, some
glitch-ette in FF3 perhaps? shrug

Works fine in FF3 for me :-)

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

I got Reading/Newbury until I looked closely at the link.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=cambridge&countryCode=GB#map=52.21234,0.1626|1 9|256&be=4260001|North&loc=GB:52.20273:0.13072:14| cambridge|Cambridge,%20Cambridgeshire,%20England,% 20CB1%201

Should get you to the right place. The difference being the after the qs=
immediately after the Multimap.com is that it now says Cambridge instead of
Caridge.

"wafflycat" wrote in message
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In my current duties as chauffeur for Mr Wafflycat, I did Cambridge & back
yesterday. Coming out of town towards the A14, driving along the Newmarket
Road to the RAB with Wadloes Road, is this horror of a farcility.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=caridge&countryCode=GB#map=52.21234,0.1626|20| 256&be=4260001|North&loc=GB:52.20273:0.13072:14|ca mbridge|Cambridge,%20Cambridgeshire,%20England,%20 CB1%201

or

http://tinyurl.com/3zq2u2

The farcility gets cycle lanes/general road lanes crossing again, where a
cyclist wanting to go straight on is placed in what appears to be direct
conflict of motorised transport wanting to turn left. I didn't like it as
a motorist and I would not be happy on it as a cyclist.

What's the experience of urc Cambridge cyclists on this one?

Coming from the east (i.e travelling left to right) it looks to me as if
there is (starting from the kerb) a cycle lane, a turn left lane for cars,
another cycle lane and a straight on/turn right lane for cars at the
entrance to the roundabout. Further back there is a bike lane and a single
car lane. At the point where the road begins to widen both the car and
bike lanes bifurcate meaning that cars turning left have to cross the line
of bikes wanting to continue straight on. It feels to me like the issue
could be determined by weight of traffic and cyclist confidence.

"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
...

Coming from the east (i.e travelling left to right)

?

Clive George wrote:

"Graham Harrison" wrote:

Coming from the east (i.e travelling left to right)

?

:-)

Did you ever see "Heimat"?

One of the characters was in a German army film unit during WW2. He said that
whether the German Army was advancing east, west, north or south, the
newsreels always had to show them marching from left to right across the
screen...

On Sep 19, 9:56*am, "wafflycat"
wrote:
The farcility gets cycle lanes/general road lanes crossing again, where a
cyclist wanting to go straight on is placed in what appears to be direct
conflict of motorised transport wanting to turn left. I didn't like it as a
motorist and I would not be happy on it as a cyclist.

What's the experience of urc Cambridge cyclists on this one?

See cam.transport passim ad infinitum. About five seconds' Googling
led me to a thread called "Barnwell Road roundabout changes" from
October 2007 and there are many more.

Richard

On Sep 19, 12:08*pm, "Graham Harrison"
wrote:
"wafflycat" wrote in message

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In my current duties as chauffeur for Mr Wafflycat, I did Cambridge & back
yesterday. Coming out of town towards the A14, driving along the Newmarket
Road to the RAB with Wadloes Road, is this horror of a farcility.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=caridge&countryCode=GB#map=52.21234,...20|256& be=4260001|North&loc=GB:52.20273:0.13072:14|cambri dge|Cambridge,%20Cambridgeshire,%20England,%20CB1% 201

or

http://tinyurl.com/3zq2u2

The farcility gets cycle lanes/general road lanes crossing again, where a
cyclist wanting to go straight on is placed in what appears to be direct
conflict of motorised transport wanting to turn left. I didn't like it as
a motorist and I would not be happy on it as a cyclist.

What's the experience of urc Cambridge cyclists on this one?

Coming from the east (i.e travelling left to right) it looks to me as if
there is (starting from the kerb) a cycle lane, a turn left lane for cars,
another cycle lane and a straight on/turn right lane for cars at the
entrance to the roundabout. * Further back there is a bike lane and a single
car lane. * At the point where the road begins to widen both the car and
bike lanes bifurcate meaning that cars turning left have to cross the line
of bikes wanting to continue straight on. * It feels to me like the issue
could be determined by weight of traffic and cyclist confidence.

Nobody Eats Shredded Wheat, preferably in that order.

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Grid Unto Magnetic Add

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In article , Graham Harrison wrote:

"wafflycat" wrote in message
...
In my current duties as chauffeur for Mr Wafflycat, I did Cambridge & back
yesterday. Coming out of town towards the A14, driving along the Newmarket
Road to the RAB with Wadloes Road, is this horror of a farcility.

http://tinyurl.com/3zq2u2

What's the experience of urc Cambridge cyclists on this one?

Coming from the east (i.e travelling left to right) it looks to me as if

That's from the west, travelling east

there is (starting from the kerb) a cycle lane, a turn left lane for cars,
another cycle lane and a straight on/turn right lane for cars at the
entrance to the roundabout. Further back there is a bike lane and a single
car lane. At the point where the road begins to widen both the car and
bike lanes bifurcate meaning that cars turning left have to cross the line
of bikes wanting to continue straight on.

Yes - here it is in Google: http://preview.tinyurl.com/485qgm

I use that route most days, and haven't had a problem so far. I remember
it used to be worse, but can't remember how it changed.