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Near Miss of the Day 501: HGV driver said he had to cut cornerbecause of fast oncoming traffic



 
 
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Old November 28th 20, 01:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Near Miss of the Day 501: HGV driver said he had to cut cornerbecause of fast oncoming traffic

On 28/11/2020 12:19, TMS320 wrote:
On 27/11/2020 16:25, JNugent wrote:
On 27/11/2020 12:05, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 03:15:13 UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 26/11/2020 18:56, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 14:45:38 UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 25/11/2020 21:41, TMS320 wrote:

On 25/11/2020 15:54, JNugent wrote:
On 25/11/2020 10:42, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/11/2020 16:32, JNugent wrote:

Does the law *require* a lorry-driver, or any other motor-vehicle
user, to give his or her name and address to any passing
cyclist who
peremptorily and officiously demands it?

Did the cyclist peremptorily and officiously demand it?

Any such unauthorised request is peremptory and officious.

Read my question again. The answer is either 'yes' or 'no'.
The cyclist's requiring of, or expecting, the name and address (or
other
"contact details" if you insist) of a lorry driver he passed in the
street was automatically peremptory and officious.


There is nothing in the article to say the victim asked the driver
for his details.
Please remember this happened in the UK, not Nugentworld.
If the driver was not asked for his contact details, why was the
cyclist
surprised or exercised about their not having been handed over?

Did he perhaps expect the driver to stop and insist on handing over the
details of his own instigation?

If so, why?

I have no idea


I know.


Well done for admitting you were that incompetent driver. How many more
instances of endangering innocent cyclists do you want to own up to?
C'mon, get it off your chest.


You really are barking up entirely the wrong tree here, Fido.

There is no-one more critical than I am of road-users (*any* road-users)
cutting corners, especially when turning right into a minor road from a
major road.

Even so, it is amusing to see criticism of such behaviour from a
*cyclist*, of all people. Yes, the ones who regard all signage and
street-furniture as meaningless.

And even more amusing to read that the cyclist expected a passing driver
to stop and give a cyclist his identity and address details.
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Old November 30th 20, 09:57 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Near Miss of the Day 501: HGV driver said he had to cut cornerbecause of fast oncoming traffic

On 28/11/2020 12:37, JNugent wrote:

Even so, it is amusing to see criticism of such behaviour from a
*cyclist*, of all people. Yes, the ones who regard all signage and
street-furniture as meaningless.


"...of all people"? You don't know anything about this person.

Besides, if a cyclist were to ignore a sign on one occasion does that
really disqualify them from criticising a driver that does something
dangerous on a different occasion?
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Old December 1st 20, 05:21 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Near Miss of the Day 501: HGV driver said he had to cut cornerbecause of fast oncoming traffic

On 30/11/2020 20:57, TMS320 wrote:
On 28/11/2020 12:37, JNugent wrote:

Even so, it is amusing to see criticism of such behaviour from a
*cyclist*, of all people. Yes, the ones who regard all signage and
street-furniture as meaningless.


"...of all people"? You don't know anything about this person.


And neither do you or Mason know anything about the lorry driver who
didn't collide with the cyclist.

Besides, if a cyclist were to ignore a sign on one occasion does that
really disqualify them from criticising a driver that does something
dangerous on a different occasion?


"One occasion"?

What was dangerous about not colliding with the cyclist?

I don't condone cutting corners at junctions *at all*, but there is such
a thing as over-reaction.

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Old December 1st 20, 12:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Near Miss of the Day 501: HGV driver said he had to cut cornerbecause of fast oncoming traffic

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 8:57:11 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
does that
really disqualify them from criticising a driver that does something
dangerous on a different occasion?


The driver's employers obviously thought that his actions were indeed "dangerous " as they have suspended him. The cyclist therefore had a genuine cause for complaint. QED.
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Old December 4th 20, 03:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Near Miss of the Day 501: HGV driver said he had to cut cornerbecause of fast oncoming traffic

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 11:23:03 AM UTC, wrote:
On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 8:57:11 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
does that
really disqualify them from criticising a driver that does something
dangerous on a different occasion?

The driver's employers obviously thought that his actions were indeed "dangerous " as they have suspended him. The cyclist therefore had a genuine cause for complaint. QED.


*Update (December 4): The driver has left the firm following a disciplinary process*

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