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  #31  
Old July 27th 20, 07:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Exeter road rage driver banned for mowing down cyclist in Tescocar park

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 7:27:56 PM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:

Rule 69
You MUST obey all traffic signs.


Not true - blue rectangular "cyclists dismount" signs have no power in law.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15...-get-off-bike/
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  #32  
Old July 28th 20, 01:26 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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On 27/07/2020 19:27, colwyn wrote:

On 27/07/2020 17:50, JNugent wrote:
On 27/07/2020 17:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:50:53 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:


Luggage rack, Panniers, Rucksack, Trailer, Pockets,
If you have ever ridden a bike, you would know how to shop safely.


It's a wonder how I managed to cycle to and from work for 15 years.
I carried food, i-pod, camera, wallet, water and clothes without a bag.


You ought to have read the Highway Code, which advises against such
things.


It's funny that you like citing that publication when you don't even
know what it says.


I assume you are referring to rule 66 of the Highway Code,and it says
nothing of your obtuse utterance!
However, if you got another version of your "Code" I would be pleased to
learn.


Rules for cyclists...


[colwyn's carefully selected list of irrelevance justifiably snipped]

The bit to which I was referring is:

QUOTE:
Rule 66
You should
- [ ... ]
- [ ... ]
- [ ... ]
- not ride close behind another vehicle
- not carry anything which will affect your balance or may get tangled
up with your wheels or chain
- be considerate of other road users, particularly blind and partially
sighted pedestrians. Let them know you are there when necessary, for
example, by ringing your bell if you have one. It is recommended that a
bell be fitted.
ENDQUOTE

See the bit about not carrying "anything which will affect your balance"?

Go on - try to insist that slinging an Asda shopping bag onto your
handlebars won't affect your balance. You might be able to convince
yourself, possibly.
  #33  
Old July 28th 20, 01:31 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Exeter road rage driver banned for mowing down cyclist in Tescocar park

On 27/07/2020 19:37, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 7:27:56 PM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:

Rule 69
You MUST obey all traffic signs.


Not true - blue rectangular "cyclists dismount" signs have no power in law.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15...-get-off-bike/


I'll let the two of you argue that one out between yourselves.

Simon's version does seem to reflect reality though - many cyclists do
not routinely obey the Highway Code.

And they don't have much display respect for the Road Traffic Acts
either, though they exhibit a fine show of indignity at the mere thought
of a driver taking anything like the same approach.
  #34  
Old July 28th 20, 01:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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Default Exeter road rage driver banned for mowing down cyclist in Tesco car park

On 19:27 27 Jul 2020, colwyn said:

On 27/07/2020 17:50, JNugent wrote:
On 27/07/2020 17:18, Simon Mason wrote:

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:50:53 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:
Luggage rack, Panniers, Rucksack, Trailer, Pockets,
If you have ever ridden a bike, you would know how to shop safely.

It's a wonder how I managed to cycle to and from work for 15 years.
I carried food, i-pod, camera, wallet, water and clothes without a
bag.


You ought to have read the Highway Code, which advises against such
things.

It's funny that you like citing that publication when you don't even
know what it says.


I assume you are referring to rule 66 of the Highway Code,and it says
nothing of your obtuse utterance!
However, if you got another version of your "Code" I would be pleased to
learn.


As an aside, does the Highway Code say to cycle in the middle of the lane?
Michael Collins maintains it does but I can't find it.
  #35  
Old July 28th 20, 01:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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Default Exeter road rage driver banned for mowing down cyclist in Tesco car park

On 01:26 28 Jul 2020, JNugent said:

On 27/07/2020 19:27, colwyn wrote:

On 27/07/2020 17:50, JNugent wrote:
On 27/07/2020 17:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:50:53 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:

Luggage rack, Panniers, Rucksack, Trailer, Pockets, If you have ever
ridden a bike, you would know how to shop safely.

It's a wonder how I managed to cycle to and from work for 15 years.
I carried food, i-pod, camera, wallet, water and clothes without a
bag.

You ought to have read the Highway Code, which advises against such
things.

It's funny that you like citing that publication when you don't even
know what it says.


I assume you are referring to rule 66 of the Highway Code,and it says
nothing of your obtuse utterance! However, if you got another version
of your "Code" I would be pleased to learn.

Rules for cyclists...


[colwyn's carefully selected list of irrelevance justifiably snipped]

The bit to which I was referring is:

QUOTE:
Rule 66
You should
- [ ... ]
- [ ... ]
- [ ... ]
- not ride close behind another vehicle
- not carry anything which will affect your balance or may get tangled
up with your wheels or chain
- be considerate of other road users, particularly blind and partially
sighted pedestrians. Let them know you are there when necessary, for
example, by ringing your bell if you have one. It is recommended that a
bell be fitted.
ENDQUOTE

See the bit about not carrying "anything which will affect your
balance"?

Go on - try to insist that slinging an Asda shopping bag onto your
handlebars won't affect your balance. You might be able to convince
yourself, possibly.


I find carrying a heavy backpack will too.

  #36  
Old July 28th 20, 03:42 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Exeter road rage driver banned for mowing down cyclist in Tesco car park

On 28/07/2020 13:51, Pamela wrote:
On 01:26 28 Jul 2020, JNugent said:

On 27/07/2020 19:27, colwyn wrote:

On 27/07/2020 17:50, JNugent wrote:
On 27/07/2020 17:18, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:50:53 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:

Luggage rack, Panniers, Rucksack, Trailer, Pockets, If you have ever
ridden a bike, you would know how to shop safely.

It's a wonder how I managed to cycle to and from work for 15 years.
I carried food, i-pod, camera, wallet, water and clothes without a
bag.

You ought to have read the Highway Code, which advises against such
things.

It's funny that you like citing that publication when you don't even
know what it says.

I assume you are referring to rule 66 of the Highway Code,and it says
nothing of your obtuse utterance! However, if you got another version
of your "Code" I would be pleased to learn.

Rules for cyclists...


[colwyn's carefully selected list of irrelevance justifiably snipped]

The bit to which I was referring is:

QUOTE:
Rule 66
You should
- [ ... ]
- [ ... ]
- [ ... ]
- not ride close behind another vehicle
- not carry anything which will affect your balance or may get tangled
up with your wheels or chain
- be considerate of other road users, particularly blind and partially
sighted pedestrians. Let them know you are there when necessary, for
example, by ringing your bell if you have one. It is recommended that a
bell be fitted.
ENDQUOTE

See the bit about not carrying "anything which will affect your
balance"?

Go on - try to insist that slinging an Asda shopping bag onto your
handlebars won't affect your balance. You might be able to convince
yourself, possibly.


I find carrying a heavy backpack will too.


Centre of gravity raised.

Of course, science doesn't affect cyclists.
  #37  
Old August 1st 20, 01:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Exeter road rage driver banned for mowing down cyclist in Tescocar park

On 28/07/2020 15:42, JNugent wrote:
On 28/07/2020 13:51, Pamela wrote:


I find carrying a heavy backpack will too.


Depends on the weight and how secure it is. Your personal experience
does not follow for everybody.

Centre of gravity raised.


And?

Of course, science doesn't affect cyclists.


Proper science does. Nugent science doesn't.
  #38  
Old August 1st 20, 01:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Exeter road rage driver banned for mowing down cyclist in Tesco car park

On 27/07/2020 10:48, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:50:53 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:

Luggage rack, Panniers, Rucksack, Trailer, Pockets,
If you have ever ridden a bike, you would know how to shop safely.


I used a giant rucksack for shopping and stored loads in it.


I use two large panniers and a rucksack. Asda do not provide a bypass
round the car park to reach their cycle racks. Just as I have never seen
one at any other shop.

  #39  
Old August 1st 20, 01:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Exeter road rage driver banned for mowing down cyclist in Tescocar park

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 1:03:10 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 27/07/2020 10:48, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:50:53 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:

Luggage rack, Panniers, Rucksack, Trailer, Pockets,
If you have ever ridden a bike, you would know how to shop safely.


I used a giant rucksack for shopping and stored loads in it.


I use two large panniers and a rucksack. Asda do not provide a bypass
round the car park to reach their cycle racks. Just as I have never seen
one at any other shop.


They're usually right next to the front doors as well.
  #40  
Old August 1st 20, 03:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kerr-Mudd,John[_3_]
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On Sat, 01 Aug 2020 12:03:06 GMT, TMS320 wrote:

On 28/07/2020 15:42, JNugent wrote:
On 28/07/2020 13:51, Pamela wrote:


I find carrying a heavy backpack will too.


Depends on the weight and how secure it is. Your personal experience
does not follow for everybody.

Centre of gravity raised.


And?

Of course, science doesn't affect cyclists.


Proper science does. Nugent science doesn't.


Nugent cares little for the laws of Momentum (until he has to stop
unexpectedly, of course)

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Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
 




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