Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever

Fred wrote:
anyway, what he said wasn't the point

It is now.

On 12/14/2010 11:58 AM, A. Dumas wrote:
Fred wrote:
anyway, what he said wasn't the point

It is now.

John Lieswyn called me a moron once.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...4bbb247bbf2e47

Fred Flintstein

On Dec 14, 7:22*am, Fred wrote:
On Dec 14, 1:53*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:





On Dec 12, 6:33*pm, Fred wrote:

First ever bike race I ever saw (not counting the TdF on tv), I
watched AG soft-pedaling up a climb after he'd come unglued from a
breakaway group. *It was a stage race, and I had no idea about or
appreciation of why he'd just sit up like he did. *In retrospect, I
know exactly why he eased up, but at the time I didn't understand.

Anyway, not knowing any better, I tried to encourage him up the
climb. *He could've just graciously accepted my cheers, but no, he has
to say something truly smart-ass. *All I could think at the time was
what an ass he was.

Fred

And you can't remember what he said?! WORST! STORY! EVER!!1!

Just 'cause I didn't tell you what he said doesn't mean I don't
remember what he said...

anyway, what he said wasn't the point, and you know that.



Dumbass -

So what'd he say?

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

On Dec 14, 4:08*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:

My point is that emotionality isn't a deficiency if you're manifestly
great at riding a bike. It is a problem if you're merely incredibly
good at riding a bike.

dumbass,

with these roller coaster guys when they are in a depressive state
they stop training, go AWOL or walk out on their team. that will
affect your ability to win races.

guys like cavendish and armstrong exhibit more typical dickish/jockish
behavior.

On Dec 14, 12:44*pm, Fred Flintstein
wrote:
On 12/14/2010 11:58 AM, A. Dumas wrote:

Fred wrote:
anyway, what he said wasn't the point

It is now.

John Lieswyn called me a moron once.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...4bbb247bbf2e47

Fred Flintstein

Well, are you?

Fred

On Dec 14, 10:58*am, "A. Dumas" wrote:
Fred wrote:
anyway, what he said wasn't the point

It is now.

no it isn't.

Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Dec 13, 12:56*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

Grewal and Decanio likely exceeded their potential because of their manic
hyper-emotions. *Their overall underachievement long-term was probably due
to typical genetic shortcomings vis-a-vis not having what the GT guys have
(with or without dope).

on their best days they were good enough to be euro pro (if not GT
winners) but they didn't succeed in that arena. hyper emotions can't
make up for not having the underlying ability.

Guys like Tom Danielson, Pantani, and F. Vandenbroucke are more like the
headcases you described. *

i wouldn't put danielson in the same boat. all those other guys had
depressive phases where they walked out on their teams or pulled
disappearing acts and stopped training for long stretches.

if a guy is still training and showing up to races, he isn't in that
depressive state. danielson is more of a typical superstitious
hypochondriac.

All TD has to do is get into a car wreck in Aspen or bang another teammate's
wife....

Magilla

Fred Flintstein wrote:

On 12/13/2010 9:02 AM, Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Dec 13, 12:56 am, wrote:

Grewal and Decanio likely exceeded their potential because of their manic
hyper-emotions. Their overall underachievement long-term was probably due
to typical genetic shortcomings vis-a-vis not having what the GT guys have
(with or without dope).

on their best days they were good enough to be euro pro (if not GT
winners) but they didn't succeed in that arena. hyper emotions can't
make up for not having the underlying ability.

Guys like Tom Danielson, Pantani, and F. Vandenbroucke are more like the
headcases you described.

i wouldn't put danielson in the same boat. all those other guys had
depressive phases where they walked out on their teams or pulled
disappearing acts and stopped training for long stretches.

if a guy is still training and showing up to races, he isn't in that
depressive state. danielson is more of a typical superstitious
hypochondriac.

Dumbasses,

For an awful lot of riders a top ten in a grand tour represents their
top end, and especially if they aren't exceptional bike handlers.

Fred Flintstein

Try they need better dope.

Magilla

"Kurgan. presented by Gringioni." wrote:

On Dec 13, 7:49*am, Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Dec 13, 10:30*am, Fred Flintstein

wrote:
Dumbasses,

For an awful lot of riders a top ten in a grand tour represents their
top end, and especially if they aren't exceptional bike handlers.

He's never shown any indication that he's capable of more.

I agree.

Same goes for Ekimov or Danny Pate or Popovych or any number of riders
who were very good at the u-23/amateur level but supposedly didn't
live up to expectations at the top level.

But Danielson has added comic elements: strange stomach ailments,
racetime jitters and eskimo blood.

Dumbass -

I'm sure Danielson isn't that bad, but if you can't relax, it drains
your adrenals.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

I betya' Stepphanie drains TD's ballsack.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...w=1159&bih=844

Magilla

On 12/14/2010 7:57 PM, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Fred Flintstein wrote:

On 12/13/2010 9:02 AM, Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Dec 13, 12:56 am, wrote:

Grewal and Decanio likely exceeded their potential because of their manic
hyper-emotions. Their overall underachievement long-term was probably due
to typical genetic shortcomings vis-a-vis not having what the GT guys have
(with or without dope).

on their best days they were good enough to be euro pro (if not GT
winners) but they didn't succeed in that arena. hyper emotions can't
make up for not having the underlying ability.

Guys like Tom Danielson, Pantani, and F. Vandenbroucke are more like the
headcases you described.

i wouldn't put danielson in the same boat. all those other guys had
depressive phases where they walked out on their teams or pulled
disappearing acts and stopped training for long stretches.

if a guy is still training and showing up to races, he isn't in that
depressive state. danielson is more of a typical superstitious
hypochondriac.

Dumbasses,

For an awful lot of riders a top ten in a grand tour represents their
top end, and especially if they aren't exceptional bike handlers.

Fred Flintstein

Try they need better dope.

Magilla

About TD? Seriously? The guy that got his start with Coach Chem?

Fred Flintstein