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Old May 10th 11, 02:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Anton Berlin
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From what can be known, he caught a pedal and it flipped him over a
rail and onto the road 60ft below.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/bel...-1226053111409

I've also read "caught in a well and fell 200 ft "

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-RSS&ATTR=News

some video after

http://youtu.be/0A_QOKvUi5Q
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Old May 10th 11, 04:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On May 9, 7:22*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
From what can be known, he caught a pedal and it flipped him over a
rail and onto the road 60ft below.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/bel...-weylandt-kill...

I've also read "caught in a well and fell 200 ft "

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-ace-killed-in...

some video after

http://youtu.be/0A_QOKvUi5Q


Tragic.
The accounts are vague and unclear, but look at the frame at about :45
in the last video link above. That at least seems to show a
perspective which provides a credible/plausible scenario.
May he rest in peace.
DR
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Old May 10th 11, 05:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
A. Dumas[_2_]
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Anton Berlin wrote:
From what can be known, he caught a pedal and it flipped him over a
rail and onto the road 60ft below. [...]
I've also read "caught in a well and fell 200 ft "


He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of the
descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the left, bounced
to the other side and hit a rock wall. He was probably dead immediately.
They tried to resuscitate him for 40 minutes but called off the medical
helicopter after that, which had been hovering unable to land closely
enough. They called it then & there but waited with the public
announcement (about 30-60 min later?) until they had got hold of his
family. There was one gruesome close-up during the live broadcast where
the right side of his head/face looked bloody and deformed. To me, he
looked dead in that shot.
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Old May 10th 11, 07:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Helmut Springer
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A. Dumas wrote:
He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of
the descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the
left, bounced to the other side and hit a rock wall.


Or he went down one step of the switchback. I didn't see a bike on
the video anywhere.


--
MfG/Best regards
helmut springer panta rhei
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Old May 10th 11, 08:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Davey Crockett[_5_]
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"A. Dumas" a écrit profondement:

| He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of the
| descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the left,
| bounced to the other side and hit a rock wall. He was probably dead
| immediately. They tried to resuscitate him for 40 minutes but called
| off the medical helicopter after that, which had been hovering unable
| to land closely enough. They called it then & there but waited with
| the public announcement (about 30-60 min later?) until they had got
| hold of his family. There was one gruesome close-up during the live
| broadcast where the right side of his head/face looked bloody and
| deformed. To me, he looked dead in that shot.

You're right about the road. Regardless of what might have happened
initially, the brief shot before the Downstream Mixer cut to a shot of
some trees showed him lying slightly right of the middle of a flat or
possibly faux plat section of the course.

However, the brief view of Wouter that was shown revealed that his
face had suffered mega-major trauma and it appeared that his head was
lying at an unnatural angle.

--
Davey Crockett
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Old May 10th 11, 12:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
ilan[_2_]
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On May 10, 9:05*am, Davey Crockett wrote:
"A. Dumas" a écrit profondement:

| He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of the
| descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the left,
| bounced to the other side and hit a rock wall. He was probably dead
| immediately. They tried to resuscitate him for 40 minutes but called
| off the medical helicopter after that, which had been hovering unable
| to land closely enough. They called it then & there but waited with
| the public announcement (about 30-60 min later?) until they had got
| hold of his family. There was one gruesome close-up during the live
| broadcast where the right side of his head/face looked bloody and
| deformed. To me, he looked dead in that shot.

You're right about the road. Regardless of what might have happened
initially, the brief shot before the Downstream Mixer cut to a shot of
some trees showed him lying slightly right of the middle of a flat or
possibly faux plat section of the course.

However, the brief view of Wouter *that was shown *revealed that his
face had suffered mega-major trauma and it appeared *that his head was
lying at an unnatural angle.

--
Davey Crockett


I can just imagine how bad it would have been if he hadn't been
wearing a helmet.

-ilan
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Old May 10th 11, 01:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Davey Crockett[_5_]
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ilan a écrit profondement:


| You're right about the road. Regardless of what might have happened
| initially, the brief shot before the Downstream Mixer cut to a shot of
| some trees showed him lying slightly right of the middle of a flat or
| possibly faux plat section of the course.
|
| However, the brief view of Wouter *that was shown *revealed that his
| face had suffered mega-major trauma and it appeared *that his head was
| lying at an unnatural angle.
|
| --
| Davey Crockett

| I can just imagine how bad it would have been if he hadn't been
| wearing a helmet.

| -ilan

A potentially more disturbing aspect of the incident is that his family,
friends and fans were probably watching the coverage.

And when the feed cut so suddenly away, as opposed to the usual skinned
knees/ass/etc. spills where the incidents are well covered, it didn't
take much over a double digit IQ to infer that this one was life
threatening or possibly fatal.

--
Davey Crockett

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Old May 10th 11, 04:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Bucephalus Birchmore
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On May 10, 1:42*am, Helmut Springer wrote:
A. Dumas wrote:
He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of
the descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the
left, bounced to the other side and hit a rock wall.


Or he went down one step of the switchback. *I didn't see a bike on
the video anywhere.

--
MfG/Best regards
helmut springer * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * panta rhei


That's the way I see it also
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Old May 10th 11, 05:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
A. Dumas[_2_]
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Fred Bucephalus Birchmore wrote:
On May 10, 1:42 am, Helmut Springer wrote:
A. Dumas wrote:
He did not fall down the mountain.


Or he went down one step of the switchback. I didn't see a bike on
the video anywhere.


That's the way I see it also


But it is not what happened. He did not fall down the mountain and it
was not near a switchback.
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Old May 10th 11, 05:24 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
RicodJour
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On May 10, 12:16*am, "A. Dumas" wrote:
Anton Berlin wrote:
From what can be known, he caught a pedal and it flipped him over a
rail and onto the road 60ft below. *[...]
I've also read "caught in a well and fell 200 ft "


He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of the
descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the left, bounced
to the other side and hit a rock wall. He was probably dead immediately.
They tried to resuscitate him for 40 minutes but called off the medical
helicopter after that, which had been hovering unable to land closely
enough. They called it then & there but waited with the public
announcement (about 30-60 min later?) until they had got hold of his
family. There was one gruesome close-up during the live broadcast where
the right side of his head/face looked bloody and deformed. To me, he
looked dead in that shot.


Yeah, I think he did go over the wall.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xim...-kolarza_sport
On the section where he was lying it was a more or less straight
part. Even at high speed a crash in that straight part would have
been a more glancing blow. The injury looked to be more of an abrupt
impact such as a fall from a height. Nothing glancing about it. Poor
*******.

R
 




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