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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 30/05/17 21:48, MrCheerful wrote:
On 30/05/2017 20:37, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 14:24, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 13:44, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 12:45, JNugent wrote: On 30/05/2017 08:26, TMS320 wrote: On 29/05/17 19:07, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 19:02:33 +0100, wrote: No, I need someone to show where in government legislation I can find road tax defined. Why do you need this? Just what's wrong with your ****ed up head? Do you never meet people, do you never hear it called road tax? Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk (before they made it paperless). Everybody does not. You probably meant "Not everybody does", because "Everybody does not" (with its completely different meaning) is patently untrue and a non-starter. Most people will understand the meaning. Besides, my phrase does not mean "nobody does" so is not an untruth. That being the case, we can easily forgive your clumsy attempt at manipulation of the language and accept that you were right in what you were trying to say but couldn't quite manage: there are indeed some people who - for various reasons which are entirely their own - do not call Road Tax "Road Tax". For that reason JSW's "Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk" has to be seen as a figure of speech with "everybody" only meaning "a majority". There, for instance, some people who cannot deal with anything in terms not provided for in "government legislation". There are others who cannot deal with any concepts in a way which undermines a point they wish to try to make and are prepared to go to ever more extreme extremities to avoid admitting the truth. There may well be a considerable overlap between those two groups. Look up the evolution of the English language, colloquialisms, something, please. You're boring the group to tears. Taking about something nick named "road tax" is the truly boring bit. The real boring bit is the anorak-ish harumphing insistence that the majority are wrong and the self-interested minority are right. JSW is right insofar as he remarks (in terms) that most people call Road Tax "Road Tax" and that is is perfectly acceptable to refer to that tax in that way. I would add that anyone professing not to undserstand the term is trying, but failing, to be deceitful. "Government legislation" so loved of another poster here has never yet managed to define and prescribe the English language as she is spoken. It is notable how you consistently dare not use the term VED as though you're frightened it will summon the devil. It is very simple to say "most people refer to VED as road tax". Remind us - what is "road tax"? Try to keep it to one sentence containing less than 10 words. Ten words would be too few and would leave out something that the anal retentives will argue about. Four words. It is a nickname. Road tax, is a tax which is paid by the majority of UK (and most other countries') motor car, motorcycle and lorry, owners, so that said vehicles may be legally (as far as that tax is related) driven or parked on the public roads on a regular or irregular, frequent or infrequent basis. You're another that's obviously afraid of uttering the term VED. Not at all, vehicle tax is another name for it, but road tax is what VED is known as, Well done. It wasn't that difficult. |
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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 30/05/2017 23:13, Paul Cummins wrote:
In article , (JNugent) wrote: Are you asserting - stupidly - that the owner or registered keeper of a motor vehicle (let's say, for avoidance of doubt, a Ford Mondeo) may lawfully use or keep that vehicle on a highway (in the UK) without having paid a tax related to that use of that vehicle? No, I am asserting that he does not need t pay either a specific tax to use the road IN GENERAL, or a specific "road tax" to use the vehicle in particular. and does the average driver of the average car pay a specific tax to use his car on public roads? |
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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 30/05/2017 23:59, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/05/17 21:48, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 20:37, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 14:24, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 13:44, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 12:45, JNugent wrote: On 30/05/2017 08:26, TMS320 wrote: On 29/05/17 19:07, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 19:02:33 +0100, wrote: No, I need someone to show where in government legislation I can find road tax defined. Why do you need this? Just what's wrong with your ****ed up head? Do you never meet people, do you never hear it called road tax? Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk (before they made it paperless). Everybody does not. You probably meant "Not everybody does", because "Everybody does not" (with its completely different meaning) is patently untrue and a non-starter. Most people will understand the meaning. Besides, my phrase does not mean "nobody does" so is not an untruth. That being the case, we can easily forgive your clumsy attempt at manipulation of the language and accept that you were right in what you were trying to say but couldn't quite manage: there are indeed some people who - for various reasons which are entirely their own - do not call Road Tax "Road Tax". For that reason JSW's "Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk" has to be seen as a figure of speech with "everybody" only meaning "a majority". There, for instance, some people who cannot deal with anything in terms not provided for in "government legislation". There are others who cannot deal with any concepts in a way which undermines a point they wish to try to make and are prepared to go to ever more extreme extremities to avoid admitting the truth. There may well be a considerable overlap between those two groups. Look up the evolution of the English language, colloquialisms, something, please. You're boring the group to tears. Taking about something nick named "road tax" is the truly boring bit. The real boring bit is the anorak-ish harumphing insistence that the majority are wrong and the self-interested minority are right. JSW is right insofar as he remarks (in terms) that most people call Road Tax "Road Tax" and that is is perfectly acceptable to refer to that tax in that way. I would add that anyone professing not to undserstand the term is trying, but failing, to be deceitful. "Government legislation" so loved of another poster here has never yet managed to define and prescribe the English language as she is spoken. It is notable how you consistently dare not use the term VED as though you're frightened it will summon the devil. It is very simple to say "most people refer to VED as road tax". Remind us - what is "road tax"? Try to keep it to one sentence containing less than 10 words. Ten words would be too few and would leave out something that the anal retentives will argue about. Four words. It is a nickname. Road tax, is a tax which is paid by the majority of UK (and most other countries') motor car, motorcycle and lorry, owners, so that said vehicles may be legally (as far as that tax is related) driven or parked on the public roads on a regular or irregular, frequent or infrequent basis. You're another that's obviously afraid of uttering the term VED. Not at all, vehicle tax is another name for it, but road tax is what VED is known as, Well done. It wasn't that difficult. There is no dispute about it, but road tax is what it is known as, principally since it is legally necessary in the majority of cases in order to use the motor vehicles on the public roads. Why do you find that hard to accept? |
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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 31/05/17 07:10, MrCheerful wrote:
On 30/05/2017 23:59, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 21:48, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 20:37, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 14:24, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 13:44, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 12:45, JNugent wrote: On 30/05/2017 08:26, TMS320 wrote: On 29/05/17 19:07, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 19:02:33 +0100, wrote: No, I need someone to show where in government legislation I can find road tax defined. Why do you need this? Just what's wrong with your ****ed up head? Do you never meet people, do you never hear it called road tax? Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk (before they made it paperless). Everybody does not. You probably meant "Not everybody does", because "Everybody does not" (with its completely different meaning) is patently untrue and a non-starter. Most people will understand the meaning. Besides, my phrase does not mean "nobody does" so is not an untruth. That being the case, we can easily forgive your clumsy attempt at manipulation of the language and accept that you were right in what you were trying to say but couldn't quite manage: there are indeed some people who - for various reasons which are entirely their own - do not call Road Tax "Road Tax". For that reason JSW's "Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk" has to be seen as a figure of speech with "everybody" only meaning "a majority". There, for instance, some people who cannot deal with anything in terms not provided for in "government legislation". There are others who cannot deal with any concepts in a way which undermines a point they wish to try to make and are prepared to go to ever more extreme extremities to avoid admitting the truth. There may well be a considerable overlap between those two groups. Look up the evolution of the English language, colloquialisms, something, please. You're boring the group to tears. Taking about something nick named "road tax" is the truly boring bit. The real boring bit is the anorak-ish harumphing insistence that the majority are wrong and the self-interested minority are right. JSW is right insofar as he remarks (in terms) that most people call Road Tax "Road Tax" and that is is perfectly acceptable to refer to that tax in that way. I would add that anyone professing not to undserstand the term is trying, but failing, to be deceitful. "Government legislation" so loved of another poster here has never yet managed to define and prescribe the English language as she is spoken. It is notable how you consistently dare not use the term VED as though you're frightened it will summon the devil. It is very simple to say "most people refer to VED as road tax". Remind us - what is "road tax"? Try to keep it to one sentence containing less than 10 words. Ten words would be too few and would leave out something that the anal retentives will argue about. Four words. It is a nickname. Road tax, is a tax which is paid by the majority of UK (and most other countries') motor car, motorcycle and lorry, owners, so that said vehicles may be legally (as far as that tax is related) driven or parked on the public roads on a regular or irregular, frequent or infrequent basis. You're another that's obviously afraid of uttering the term VED. Not at all, vehicle tax is another name for it, but road tax is what VED is known as, Well done. It wasn't that difficult. There is no dispute about it, but road tax is what it is known as, Yes, the tax is merely "known as". principally since it is legally necessary in the majority of cases in order to use the motor vehicles on the public roads. Why do you find that hard to accept? It is not difficult to accept that there is a tax. It's moronist that fail to grasp that it's JUST A TAX and the name they have given it is JUST A NAME. |
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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 31/05/2017 09:11, TMS320 wrote:
On 31/05/17 07:10, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 23:59, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 21:48, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 20:37, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 14:24, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 13:44, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 12:45, JNugent wrote: On 30/05/2017 08:26, TMS320 wrote: On 29/05/17 19:07, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 19:02:33 +0100, wrote: No, I need someone to show where in government legislation I can find road tax defined. Why do you need this? Just what's wrong with your ****ed up head? Do you never meet people, do you never hear it called road tax? Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk (before they made it paperless). Everybody does not. You probably meant "Not everybody does", because "Everybody does not" (with its completely different meaning) is patently untrue and a non-starter. Most people will understand the meaning. Besides, my phrase does not mean "nobody does" so is not an untruth. That being the case, we can easily forgive your clumsy attempt at manipulation of the language and accept that you were right in what you were trying to say but couldn't quite manage: there are indeed some people who - for various reasons which are entirely their own - do not call Road Tax "Road Tax". For that reason JSW's "Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk" has to be seen as a figure of speech with "everybody" only meaning "a majority". There, for instance, some people who cannot deal with anything in terms not provided for in "government legislation". There are others who cannot deal with any concepts in a way which undermines a point they wish to try to make and are prepared to go to ever more extreme extremities to avoid admitting the truth. There may well be a considerable overlap between those two groups. Look up the evolution of the English language, colloquialisms, something, please. You're boring the group to tears. Taking about something nick named "road tax" is the truly boring bit. The real boring bit is the anorak-ish harumphing insistence that the majority are wrong and the self-interested minority are right. JSW is right insofar as he remarks (in terms) that most people call Road Tax "Road Tax" and that is is perfectly acceptable to refer to that tax in that way. I would add that anyone professing not to undserstand the term is trying, but failing, to be deceitful. "Government legislation" so loved of another poster here has never yet managed to define and prescribe the English language as she is spoken. It is notable how you consistently dare not use the term VED as though you're frightened it will summon the devil. It is very simple to say "most people refer to VED as road tax". Remind us - what is "road tax"? Try to keep it to one sentence containing less than 10 words. Ten words would be too few and would leave out something that the anal retentives will argue about. Four words. It is a nickname. Road tax, is a tax which is paid by the majority of UK (and most other countries') motor car, motorcycle and lorry, owners, so that said vehicles may be legally (as far as that tax is related) driven or parked on the public roads on a regular or irregular, frequent or infrequent basis. You're another that's obviously afraid of uttering the term VED. Not at all, vehicle tax is another name for it, but road tax is what VED is known as, Well done. It wasn't that difficult. There is no dispute about it, but road tax is what it is known as, Yes, the tax is merely "known as". principally since it is legally necessary in the majority of cases in order to use the motor vehicles on the public roads. Why do you find that hard to accept? It is not difficult to accept that there is a tax. It's moronist that fail to grasp that it's JUST A TAX and the name they have given it is JUST A NAME. and it is an accurately descriptive name. |
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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 31/05/17 09:15, MrCheerful wrote:
On 31/05/2017 09:11, TMS320 wrote: On 31/05/17 07:10, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 23:59, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 21:48, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 20:37, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 14:24, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 13:44, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 12:45, JNugent wrote: On 30/05/2017 08:26, TMS320 wrote: On 29/05/17 19:07, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 19:02:33 +0100, wrote: No, I need someone to show where in government legislation I can find road tax defined. Why do you need this? Just what's wrong with your ****ed up head? Do you never meet people, do you never hear it called road tax? Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk (before they made it paperless). Everybody does not. You probably meant "Not everybody does", because "Everybody does not" (with its completely different meaning) is patently untrue and a non-starter. Most people will understand the meaning. Besides, my phrase does not mean "nobody does" so is not an untruth. That being the case, we can easily forgive your clumsy attempt at manipulation of the language and accept that you were right in what you were trying to say but couldn't quite manage: there are indeed some people who - for various reasons which are entirely their own - do not call Road Tax "Road Tax". For that reason JSW's "Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk" has to be seen as a figure of speech with "everybody" only meaning "a majority". There, for instance, some people who cannot deal with anything in terms not provided for in "government legislation". There are others who cannot deal with any concepts in a way which undermines a point they wish to try to make and are prepared to go to ever more extreme extremities to avoid admitting the truth. There may well be a considerable overlap between those two groups. Look up the evolution of the English language, colloquialisms, something, please. You're boring the group to tears. Taking about something nick named "road tax" is the truly boring bit. The real boring bit is the anorak-ish harumphing insistence that the majority are wrong and the self-interested minority are right. JSW is right insofar as he remarks (in terms) that most people call Road Tax "Road Tax" and that is is perfectly acceptable to refer to that tax in that way. I would add that anyone professing not to undserstand the term is trying, but failing, to be deceitful. "Government legislation" so loved of another poster here has never yet managed to define and prescribe the English language as she is spoken. It is notable how you consistently dare not use the term VED as though you're frightened it will summon the devil. It is very simple to say "most people refer to VED as road tax". Remind us - what is "road tax"? Try to keep it to one sentence containing less than 10 words. Ten words would be too few and would leave out something that the anal retentives will argue about. Four words. It is a nickname. Road tax, is a tax which is paid by the majority of UK (and most other countries') motor car, motorcycle and lorry, owners, so that said vehicles may be legally (as far as that tax is related) driven or parked on the public roads on a regular or irregular, frequent or infrequent basis. You're another that's obviously afraid of uttering the term VED. Not at all, vehicle tax is another name for it, but road tax is what VED is known as, Well done. It wasn't that difficult. There is no dispute about it, but road tax is what it is known as, Yes, the tax is merely "known as". principally since it is legally necessary in the majority of cases in order to use the motor vehicles on the public roads. Why do you find that hard to accept? It is not difficult to accept that there is a tax. It's moronist that fail to grasp that it's JUST A TAX and the name they have given it is JUST A NAME. and it is an accurately descriptive name. You see, you're one of the ones that has the difficulty. |
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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 30.05.2017 09:10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 31/05/2017 09:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 31/05/17 09:15, MrCheerful wrote: On 31/05/2017 09:11, TMS320 wrote: On 31/05/17 07:10, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 23:59, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 21:48, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 20:37, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 14:24, MrCheerful wrote: On 30/05/2017 13:44, TMS320 wrote: On 30/05/17 12:45, JNugent wrote: On 30/05/2017 08:26, TMS320 wrote: On 29/05/17 19:07, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 19:02:33 +0100, wrote: No, I need someone to show where in government legislation I can find road tax defined. Why do you need this? Just what's wrong with your ****ed up head? Do you never meet people, do you never hear it called road tax? Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk (before they made it paperless). Everybody does not. You probably meant "Not everybody does", because "Everybody does not" (with its completely different meaning) is patently untrue and a non-starter. Most people will understand the meaning. Besides, my phrase does not mean "nobody does" so is not an untruth. That being the case, we can easily forgive your clumsy attempt at manipulation of the language and accept that you were right in what you were trying to say but couldn't quite manage: there are indeed some people who - for various reasons which are entirely their own - do not call Road Tax "Road Tax". For that reason JSW's "Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk" has to be seen as a figure of speech with "everybody" only meaning "a majority". There, for instance, some people who cannot deal with anything in terms not provided for in "government legislation". There are others who cannot deal with any concepts in a way which undermines a point they wish to try to make and are prepared to go to ever more extreme extremities to avoid admitting the truth. There may well be a considerable overlap between those two groups. Look up the evolution of the English language, colloquialisms, something, please. You're boring the group to tears. Taking about something nick named "road tax" is the truly boring bit. The real boring bit is the anorak-ish harumphing insistence that the majority are wrong and the self-interested minority are right. JSW is right insofar as he remarks (in terms) that most people call Road Tax "Road Tax" and that is is perfectly acceptable to refer to that tax in that way. I would add that anyone professing not to undserstand the term is trying, but failing, to be deceitful. "Government legislation" so loved of another poster here has never yet managed to define and prescribe the English language as she is spoken. It is notable how you consistently dare not use the term VED as though you're frightened it will summon the devil. It is very simple to say "most people refer to VED as road tax". Remind us - what is "road tax"? Try to keep it to one sentence containing less than 10 words. Ten words would be too few and would leave out something that the anal retentives will argue about. Four words. It is a nickname. Road tax, is a tax which is paid by the majority of UK (and most other countries') motor car, motorcycle and lorry, owners, so that said vehicles may be legally (as far as that tax is related) driven or parked on the public roads on a regular or irregular, frequent or infrequent basis. You're another that's obviously afraid of uttering the term VED. Not at all, vehicle tax is another name for it, but road tax is what VED is known as, Well done. It wasn't that difficult. There is no dispute about it, but road tax is what it is known as, Yes, the tax is merely "known as". principally since it is legally necessary in the majority of cases in order to use the motor vehicles on the public roads. Why do you find that hard to accept? It is not difficult to accept that there is a tax. It's moronist that fail to grasp that it's JUST A TAX and the name they have given it is JUST A NAME. and it is an accurately descriptive name. You see, you're one of the ones that has the difficulty. The thing you have difficulty in grasping is that the best name for anything is one which simply describes its purpose. 'Road tax' does just that, and it will be continued to be called that (by all regular people) long after we are all dead and gone. |
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300 miles of secret cycle paths have been discovered
On 30/05/2017 13:44, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/05/17 12:45, JNugent wrote: On 30/05/2017 08:26, TMS320 wrote: On 29/05/17 19:07, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 19:02:33 +0100, wrote: No, I need someone to show where in government legislation I can find road tax defined. Why do you need this? Just what's wrong with your ****ed up head? Do you never meet people, do you never hear it called road tax? Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk (before they made it paperless). Everybody does not. You probably meant "Not everybody does", because "Everybody does not" (with its completely different meaning) is patently untrue and a non-starter. Most people will understand the meaning. Besides, my phrase does not mean "nobody does" so is not an untruth. Your response is both disappointing and (I don't mind admitting) surprising. "Everybody does not" and "nobody does" are identical in meaning. Ordering it as "not everyone does" would be a different matter. That being the case, we can easily forgive your clumsy attempt at manipulation of the language and accept that you were right in what you were trying to say but couldn't quite manage: there are indeed some people who - for various reasons which are entirely their own - do not call Road Tax "Road Tax". For that reason JSW's "Everybody either calls it road tax or a tax disk" has to be seen as a figure of speech with "everybody" only meaning "a majority". There, for instance, some people who cannot deal with anything in terms not provided for in "government legislation". There are others who cannot deal with any concepts in a way which undermines a point they wish to try to make and are prepared to go to ever more extreme extremities to avoid admitting the truth. There may well be a considerable overlap between those two groups. Look up the evolution of the English language, colloquialisms, something, please. You're boring the group to tears. Taking about something nick named "road tax" is the truly boring bit. The real boring bit is the anorak-ish harumphing insistence that the majority are wrong and the self-interested minority are right. JSW is right insofar as he remarks (in terms) that most people call Road Tax "Road Tax" and that is is perfectly acceptable to refer to that tax in that way. I would add that anyone professing not to undserstand the term is trying, but failing, to be deceitful. "Government legislation" so loved of another poster here has never yet managed to define and prescribe the English language as she is spoken. It is notable how you consistently dare not use the term VED as though you're frightened it will summon the devil. It is very simple to say "most people refer to VED as road tax". I don't use the phrase you cite because it is not in common usage and nothing turns on the use of one term or the other. Where there is an important technical distinction to be drawn (eg, the clumsy "pavement" versus the correct "footway"), I use only the correct term because only the correct term is unambiguous. Road Tax is the name the tax had when it came into being. Renaming it is a matter of style, not of substance. It makes precisely no difference. Remind us - what is "road tax"? Try to keep it to one sentence containing less than 10 words. Although you often try to give the opposite impression, you are neither so stupid nor so ignorant as to not know what Road Tax is. |
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