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How can I blacken stainless steel spokes?
Nowadays with all the spoke options I am hard-pressed to keep, or
indeed, find stock of all the permutations. How do they blacken spokes and can this be done in a workshop as and when needed? |
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How can I blacken stainless steel spokes?
Johan Bornman wrote:
Nowadays with all the spoke options I am hard-pressed to keep, or indeed, find stock of all the permutations. Get a tool to cut&roll your own? How do they blacken spokes and can this be done in a workshop as and when needed? Not in any durable way that would compare to the manufacturer. -- MfG/Best regards helmut springer panta rhei |
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How can I blacken stainless steel spokes?
Thanks for all the helpful comments.
Carl - enamelling is not an option, but nice try. I love your links. Peter suggested I just buy black spokes. Easier said than done. I'm not in the US or UK but in South Africa. It's a small market and finding non-standard spokes are difficult. I often have to repair X wheel with two black bladed spokes that need replacement or someone wants a Z wheel that matches his PowerTap or some other oddity. Buying/ importing a box of those specific spokes is not viable and secondly, they're not locally available. As it is, I'm cutting and threading to compensate for the lack of bladed spokes in the country, now I'm faced with the additional problem of black too. I'm looking for something whereby I can quickly/reasonably quickly colour a silver spoke to match that in an existing wheel. I've checked out the local electroplaters but I had no success. The only place that seems to do it is an armaments company and they're not interested in my half dozen spokes. |
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How can I blacken stainless steel spokes?
Johan Bornman wrote:
Thanks for all the helpful comments. Carl - enamelling is not an option, but nice try. I love your links. Peter suggested I just buy black spokes. Easier said than done. I'm not in the US or UK but in South Africa. It's a small market and finding non-standard spokes are difficult. I often have to repair X wheel with two black bladed spokes that need replacement or someone wants a Z wheel that matches his PowerTap or some other oddity. Buying/ importing a box of those specific spokes is not viable and secondly, they're not locally available. As it is, I'm cutting and threading to compensate for the lack of bladed spokes in the country, now I'm faced with the additional problem of black too. I'm looking for something whereby I can quickly/reasonably quickly colour a silver spoke to match that in an existing wheel. I've checked out the local electroplaters but I had no success. The only place that seems to do it is an armaments company and they're not interested in my half dozen spokes. For the occasional odd piece, we use a black paint pen. http://www.marvy.com/product_details.aspx?ProductID=40 Faster than you'd expect. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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How can I blacken stainless steel spokes?
Johan Bornman wrote:
I'm looking for something whereby I can quickly/reasonably quickly colour a silver spoke to match that in an existing wheel. I've checked out the local electroplaters but I had no success. The only place that seems to do it is an armaments company and they're not interested in my half dozen spokes. Try Plasti Dip black spray. It may make the colored spoke a tad larger diameter, but it's less likely to peel or chip than paint, as the spoke flexes. However it's possible that the spoke surface is too smooth for it to adhere. |
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How can I blacken stainless steel spokes?
black anodized steel is a common thing, all you have to do is find out how
it is done and do it on a small scale for spokes. hope this helps greg "Johan Bornman" wrote in message ... Nowadays with all the spoke options I am hard-pressed to keep, or indeed, find stock of all the permutations. How do they blacken spokes and can this be done in a workshop as and when needed? |
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Stainless Steel Blackener 370 is an acidic liquid concentrate used full strength or diluted with up to 3 parts water to blacken stainless steel at room temperature. Recommended for color coding parts and blackening engravings on stainless steels. Produces a pleasing dark gray/black finish. No sealer required. link he http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/black.htm#stainless ======== This is a posibility. There is a mention that there is a process of applying aluminum to stainless steel and then anodizing it the color you want: December 10, 2008 You can also treat stainless steel with IVD - ion vapour deposition - to give an aluminium coating. You can then anodise it in the same way as aluminium. Andrew Pridmore - Gillingham, Kent, UK link he http://www.finishing.com/245/20.shtml Good luck, cause some of this stuff you would have to buy it, and the cost is high compared to the need for black spokes. hope this helps greg "Mike Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message ... On 5/12/2009 1:42 PM wrote: black anodized steel is a common thing, all you have to do is find out how it is done and do it on a small scale for spokes. hope this helps greg I'm pretty sure that anodizing isn't used on steel. "Anodic films are most commonly applied to protect aluminium alloys, although processes also exist for titanium, zinc, magnesium, and niobium. This process is not a useful treatment for iron or carbon steel because these metals exfoliate when oxidized; i.e. the iron oxide (also known as rust) flakes off, constantly exposing the underlying metal to corrosion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodize I wonder how stainless parts are made black, commercially... some Googling turned up: "...there is a commercial proprietary product available for blackening stainless steel based on copper-selenium chemistry. It is used at room temperature. More information can be obtained by doing an internet search under the term “blackening process.” http://www.pfonline.com/articles/cli...cl_plate3.html -- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Bend, Oregon |
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he Stainless Steel Blackener 370 is an acidic liquid concentrate used full strength or diluted with up to 3 parts water to blacken stainless steel at room temperature. Recommended for color coding parts and blackening engravings on stainless steels. Produces a pleasing dark gray/black finish. No sealer required. link he http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/black.htm#stainless ======== This is a posibility. There is a mention that there is a process of applying aluminum to stainless steel and then anodizing it the color you want: December 10, 2008 You can also treat stainless steel with IVD - ion vapour deposition - to give an aluminium coating. You can then anodise it in the same way as aluminium. Andrew Pridmore - Gillingham, Kent, UK link he http://www.finishing.com/245/20.shtml Good luck, cause some of this stuff you would have to buy it, and the cost is high compared to the need for black spokes. hope this helps greg "Mike Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message ... On 5/12/2009 1:42 PM wrote: black anodized steel is a common thing, all you have to do is find out how it is done and do it on a small scale for spokes. hope this helps greg I'm pretty sure that anodizing isn't used on steel. "Anodic films are most commonly applied to protect aluminium alloys, although processes also exist for titanium, zinc, magnesium, and niobium. This process is not a useful treatment for iron or carbon steel because these metals exfoliate when oxidized; i.e. the iron oxide (also known as rust) flakes off, constantly exposing the underlying metal to corrosion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodize I wonder how stainless parts are made black, commercially... some Googling turned up: "...there is a commercial proprietary product available for blackening stainless steel based on copper-selenium chemistry. It is used at room temperature. More information can be obtained by doing an internet search under the term �blackening process.� http://www.pfonline.com/articles/cli...cl_plate3.html -- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Bend, Oregon you guys, with respect, are smoking crack. the per-item cost to do all this stuff is just ridiculously high compared to purchase of the requisite parts form an expert manufacturer that will not weaken or fatigue or corrode their own product. just buy the freakin' things and quit this ridiculous festival of ignorance. |
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On 5/13/2009 6:01 AM jim beam wrote:
wrote: he Stainless Steel Blackener 370 is an acidic liquid concentrate used full strength or diluted with up to 3 parts water to blacken stainless steel at room temperature. Recommended for color coding parts and blackening engravings on stainless steels. Produces a pleasing dark gray/black finish. No sealer required. link he http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/black.htm#stainless ======== This is a posibility. There is a mention that there is a process of applying aluminum to stainless steel and then anodizing it the color you want: December 10, 2008 You can also treat stainless steel with IVD - ion vapour deposition - to give an aluminium coating. You can then anodise it in the same way as aluminium. Andrew Pridmore - Gillingham, Kent, UK link he http://www.finishing.com/245/20.shtml Good luck, cause some of this stuff you would have to buy it, and the cost is high compared to the need for black spokes. hope this helps greg "Mike Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message ... On 5/12/2009 1:42 PM wrote: black anodized steel is a common thing, all you have to do is find out how it is done and do it on a small scale for spokes. hope this helps greg I'm pretty sure that anodizing isn't used on steel. "Anodic films are most commonly applied to protect aluminium alloys, although processes also exist for titanium, zinc, magnesium, and niobium. This process is not a useful treatment for iron or carbon steel because these metals exfoliate when oxidized; i.e. the iron oxide (also known as rust) flakes off, constantly exposing the underlying metal to corrosion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodize I wonder how stainless parts are made black, commercially... some Googling turned up: "...there is a commercial proprietary product available for blackening stainless steel based on copper-selenium chemistry. It is used at room temperature. More information can be obtained by doing an internet search under the term �blackening process.� http://www.pfonline.com/articles/cli...cl_plate3.html -- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Bend, Oregon you guys, with respect, are smoking crack. the per-item cost to do all this stuff is just ridiculously high compared to purchase of the requisite parts form an expert manufacturer that will not weaken or fatigue or corrode their own product. just buy the freakin' things and quit this ridiculous festival of ignorance. The OP just asked how if it could be done. Maybe he's a home hobbyist who likes to tinker. I ain't judging him, man. -- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Bend, Oregon |
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