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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
I quite often ride through Carlton Gardens, past the old exhibition building on the way to work and for the first time in 4 years, a parks guy had the path blocked with his ute and was telling people not to ride through the park. The park has always had the 'no bike' signs painted on them but I reckon at least hundreds of people ride through there every day. Did anyone else here get 'hassled'? I don't have a problem with people riding through there but I don't care too much either way. THe park shortcut is slightly more convenient for me but the road is OK too. It's just nicer riding through the park than in amongst the nutcases -- Nick |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
"NickZX6R" wrote in message ... I quite often ride through Carlton Gardens, past the old exhibition building on the way to work and for the first time in 4 years, a parks guy had the path blocked with his ute and was telling people not to ride through the park. The park has always had the 'no bike' signs painted on them but I reckon at least hundreds of people ride through there every day. Did anyone else here get 'hassled'? I don't have a problem with people riding through there but I don't care too much either way. THe park shortcut is slightly more convenient for me but the road is OK too. It's just nicer riding through the park than in amongst the nutcases -- Nick Nick, I think they have been there a couple of times recently in the morning. I usually break right at the roundabout and come out at the BP on Rathdowne St. I have to agree it is nicer in the park, but these days we have lane markings so you can't ask for much more. Riding with the "nutcases" what nutcases....you mean the 4wd driver who pulls across your bike line because there is no car coming and he does not feel threatened by a bike colliding with his car. That very same one that I adjusted his mirrors for him and he shouted his "appreciation". Did you see him too. Perhaps there are others out there. Kevin |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
I ride thru (is it called carlton gardens at the southern end?
there approx 50% of mornings commuting, coming up from Napier St an left along Gertrude, thru the gardens and down to corner o Rathdowne and Vic.St It is by far the best way to navigate this part of town as the footpat along the east/south sides is rough/tree-rooted and full of pedestrian (funnily enough! Always see the same dude in the morning feeding the ducks and get t check out how the latest brood of fuzzy ducklings are progressing. Th air quality is palpable as you enter the gardens and get away from th road. Very rarely pass more than 3 people and as the pathes are so wid is very easy to ensure you dont scare anyone or come near the - |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
K&C Russell wrote:
"NickZX6R" wrote in message ... I quite often ride through Carlton Gardens, past the old exhibition building on the way to work and for the first time in 4 years, a parks guy had the path blocked with his ute and was telling people not to ride through the park. The park has always had the 'no bike' signs painted on them but I reckon at least hundreds of people ride through there every day. Did anyone else here get 'hassled'? I don't have a problem with people riding through there but I don't care too much either way. THe park shortcut is slightly more convenient for me but the road is OK too. It's just nicer riding through the park than in amongst the nutcases -- Nick Nick, I think they have been there a couple of times recently in the morning. I usually break right at the roundabout and come out at the BP on Rathdowne St. I have to agree it is nicer in the park, but these days we have lane markings so you can't ask for much more. Riding with the "nutcases" what nutcases....you mean the 4wd driver who pulls across your bike line because there is no car coming and he does not feel threatened by a bike colliding with his car. That very same one that I adjusted his mirrors for him and he shouted his "appreciation". Did you see him too. Perhaps there are others out there. Kevin I'm not fussed by it. Just a bit surprised. I've never seen the no bikes rule enforced in almost 4 years. Although my g/f says they've been there a couple of times previously. I just wonder if there have been complaints which have prompted them to enforce the rule. The funny thing is, the parks guy suggested I could either walk the bike through the park or ride along the footpath! -- Nick |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
"NickZX6R" wrote in message ... I quite often ride through Carlton Gardens, past the old exhibition building on the way to work and for the first time in 4 years, a parks guy had the path blocked with his ute and was telling people not to ride through the park. The park has always had the 'no bike' signs painted on them but I reckon at least hundreds of people ride through there every day. Did anyone else here get 'hassled'? I don't have a problem with people riding through there but I don't care too much either way. THe park shortcut is slightly more convenient for me but the road is OK too. It's just nicer riding through the park than in amongst the nutcases -- Nick Hi Nick, Looked like they were there again today 3/6. Kevin |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
"NickZX6R" wrote in message ... I quite often ride through Carlton Gardens, past the old exhibition building on the way to work and for the first time in 4 years, a parks guy had the path blocked with his ute and was telling people not to ride through the park. The park has always had the 'no bike' signs painted on them but I reckon at least hundreds of people ride through there every day. There was a public meeting held by Melbourne City Council and interested cyclists concerning use and access to the paths in the Carlton Gardens held about two weeks ago. Don't know what the outcome of it was, or if it was just a session for pedestrian users to grouch about redneck cyclists. I expect BV or the MCC would be able to give you info on what's happening there. www.bv.com.au www.melbourne.vic.gov.au The sudden appearance of rangers does not bode well for any change to access restrictions however. Cheers Peter |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
"Peter Signorini" wrote in message ... There was a public meeting held by Melbourne City Council and interested cyclists concerning use and access to the paths in the Carlton Gardens held about two weeks ago. Don't know what the outcome of it was, or if it was just a session for pedestrian users to grouch about redneck cyclists. I expect BV or the MCC would be able to give you info on what's happening there. www.bv.com.au www.melbourne.vic.gov.au More on this from the Council's website (the arlton Gardens issues paper): "Cycling in Carlton Gardens and Exhibition Reserve has been an issue of intense community debate in recent years. The Master Plan process is an opportunity to examine whether the current 'no bike riding' rule should be changed. If this is to be considered it may be appropriate to allow cycling on specified routes or at certain times of the day. It has also been suggested that the bike network around the gardens should be improved in preference to allowing cycling through the gardens." The sudden appearance of rangers does not bode well for any change to access restrictions however. It would seem from this that the council is trying to steer things towards greater use of the on-road bike paths by getting rangers to direct people towards them. Wonder whether this will really change people's cycling routes. Cheers Peter |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
Posted a big reply to this thread on two days ago via cycling forums
but hasn't showed up on aus.bicycle, see her http://www.cyclingforums.com/t127213.html Included plenty of background information about Carlton Garden issues etc - |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
Peter Signorini wrote:
"Peter Signorini" wrote in message ... There was a public meeting held by Melbourne City Council and interested cyclists concerning use and access to the paths in the Carlton Gardens held about two weeks ago. Don't know what the outcome of it was, or if it was just a session for pedestrian users to grouch about redneck cyclists. I expect BV or the MCC would be able to give you info on what's happening there. www.bv.com.au www.melbourne.vic.gov.au More on this from the Council's website (the arlton Gardens issues paper): "Cycling in Carlton Gardens and Exhibition Reserve has been an issue of intense community debate in recent years. The Master Plan process is an opportunity to examine whether the current 'no bike riding' rule should be changed. If this is to be considered it may be appropriate to allow cycling on specified routes or at certain times of the day. It has also been suggested that the bike network around the gardens should be improved in preference to allowing cycling through the gardens." The sudden appearance of rangers does not bode well for any change to access restrictions however. It would seem from this that the council is trying to steer things towards greater use of the on-road bike paths by getting rangers to direct people towards them. Wonder whether this will really change people's cycling routes. Cheers Peter I think Carlton Gardens is one of those places that is so convenient and pleasant to ride through compared to the alternatives that only full time 'security guards' would stop people riding through. I read the CRA's submission and the bike part sounds a bit silly to me. The park is wide open, visibility is excellent and the paths are wide. I'm sure there are some cyclists who ride irresponsibly through there but I find it hard to believe there are many people who genuinely feel threatened or in danger because of cyclists. But then...I'm still finding it hard to accept that there are people who don't think cycling is just the best fun -- Nick |
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Carlton Gardens [Melb]
I think Carlton Gardens is one of those places that is so convenient and pleasant to ride through compared to the alternatives that only full time 'security guards' would stop people riding through. I think the same goes for the Fitzroy Gardens. I see a few people come off Albert St in the mornings and go through the Fitzroy Gardens (another one where you're not supposed to ride) and then come out again near Parliament House. It's longer than keeping on Albert St so I can only assume they do it for the enjoyment. Personally, by that stage of the commute I'm too knackered to add any unecessary distance. DaveB |
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