How can i get bar-end shifters on 2001 Campy 9 sp gruppo

Hi folks.

I've got a 2001 campy veloce group (triple, long cage rear derailleur).
I want to put bar-end shifters on this rig. I've read that there were
no 9 sp bar ends for the 2001+ 9 sp campy groups, and that the 10 sp
stuff won't work with my 9 sp setup.

What can I do? Can i go get a 10 sp cassette? Is there a way i can
get the group to work with an older 9 sp bar-end shifter?

Thanks

....alex...

On 17 Oct 2005 03:19:47 -0700, wrote:

I've got a 2001 campy veloce group (triple, long cage rear derailleur).
I want to put bar-end shifters on this rig. I've read that there were
no 9 sp bar ends for the 2001+ 9 sp campy groups, and that the 10 sp
stuff won't work with my 9 sp setup.

What can I do? Can i go get a 10 sp cassette? Is there a way i can
get the group to work with an older 9 sp bar-end shifter?

The difference between old and new campy is a mere .2 mm per cog, which is
low enough that it'll work in combination, although I would imagine the
adjustment to be a slight bit more fiddly -- but those with experience
suggest that that fiddlyness in practice works out to nothing.

I believe you could also go for 10sp shifters, a 10 sp cassette and chain,
and be upgraded without changing anything else.

Jasper

Is Campy offering any 10spd downtube shifters? (Dura Ace still does)
then you can get a set of these and make custom bar-ends:
http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/html/catalog.html

It's also possible to use Dura Ace bar-ends with Campy using this:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Shiftmate.asp

I believe you'd need model three.

For some reason, I thought I saw real live campy 10spd bar-ends--so
look around.

For some reason I misread your post and thought you were absolutely
going 10 spd on the rear--anyhow, those options I mentioned are still
worth checking out.

The Shift-mate doohicky from Peter White Cycles might very well save
the day.

wrote:
Hi folks.

I've got a 2001 campy veloce group (triple, long cage rear derailleur).
I want to put bar-end shifters on this rig. I've read that there were
no 9 sp bar ends for the 2001+ 9 sp campy groups, and that the 10 sp
stuff won't work with my 9 sp setup.

What can I do? Can i go get a 10 sp cassette? Is there a way i can
get the group to work with an older 9 sp bar-end shifter?

Thanks

...alex...

Either get 10s barends and then the 9s shift disc or just get 10s
barends, a 10s cogset and chain...all are intercompatible, rear der/hub
wise.

wrote:
Hi folks.

I've got a 2001 campy veloce group (triple, long cage rear derailleur).
I want to put bar-end shifters on this rig. I've read that there were
no 9 sp bar ends for the 2001+ 9 sp campy groups, and that the 10 sp
stuff won't work with my 9 sp setup.

What can I do? Can i go get a 10 sp cassette? Is there a way i can
get the group to work with an older 9 sp bar-end shifter?

Thanks

...alex...

9s and even 8s barends are still available, just checked with my
supplier, getting expensive tho, as they get scarce. All are cross
convertible with a shift disc tho, for the three spring model.

On 18 Oct 2005 05:48:03 -0700, "Qui si parla Campagnolo"
wrote:

9s and even 8s barends are still available, just checked with my
supplier, getting expensive tho, as they get scarce. All are cross
convertible with a shift disc tho, for the three spring model.

But is a 9s barend more expensive than a 10s barend plus a 9s shifter disc
minus selling off the 10s disc on ebay?

Jasper

Jasper Janssen wrote:
On 18 Oct 2005 05:48:03 -0700, "Qui si parla Campagnolo"
wrote:

9s and even 8s barends are still available, just checked with my
supplier, getting expensive tho, as they get scarce. All are cross
convertible with a shift disc tho, for the three spring model.

But is a 9s barend more expensive than a 10s barend plus a 9s shifter disc
minus selling off the 10s disc on ebay?

Jasper

9s barends are pushing $190, 10s barends are about $50 cheaper. The
shift disc is $15.

The gent's best option is to get the 10s ones and a cogset and chain. I
assume he thinks lots of his '9s' stuff is not compatible, which is not
true, a misconception many here and elsewhere have.

On 19 Oct 2005 05:50:27 -0700, "Qui si parla Campagnolo"
wrote:

9s barends are pushing $190, 10s barends are about $50 cheaper. The
shift disc is $15.

Okay, so why buy the 9s at all then? And why isn't there a healthy market
on eBay, at least, in 10s-converted-to-9s shifters? Were the 9s
better/different in some way that's not covered by the shift disc
exchange?

The gent's best option is to get the 10s ones and a cogset and chain. I
assume he thinks lots of his '9s' stuff is not compatible, which is not
true, a misconception many here and elsewhere have.

Of course, if you do that then every time your chain and/or cassette wears
out you have to buy 10s stuff to replace it, which is as of yet still
significantly more expensive than 9s.

Jasper

Jasper Janssen wrote:
On 19 Oct 2005 05:50:27 -0700, "Qui si parla Campagnolo"
wrote:

9s barends are pushing $190, 10s barends are about $50 cheaper. The
shift disc is $15.

Okay, so why buy the 9s at all then? And why isn't there a healthy market
on eBay, at least, in 10s-converted-to-9s shifters? Were the 9s
better/different in some way that's not covered by the shift disc
exchange?

The supplier I use discoints nothing. They just sit on it, and raise
the price as it gets scarce...why 9s barends, not made since 2000, are
so expensive.

The gent's best option is to get the 10s ones and a cogset and chain. I
assume he thinks lots of his '9s' stuff is not compatible, which is not
true, a misconception many here and elsewhere have.

Of course, if you do that then every time your chain and/or cassette wears
out you have to buy 10s stuff to replace it, which is as of yet still
significantly more expensive than 9s.


10s Chains are $40 vice $20 for 9s, cogsets are $90 versus $65 for
9s...talking veloce. Not significant, IMO.

Jasper