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Old June 12th 19, 07:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:31:36 AM UTC+2, wrote:
On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:06:14 AM UTC-5, db wrote:
Some days, on my way to work, it all feels great, I zoom along,
the bike responds beautifully, I feel strong today, wow. Then
I realise, I've got a tail wind.

--
Dieter Britz


Hmmmm???? I can honestly say I have never ever not known I have a tailwind and think I'm going fast because I am strong. I always know exactly what the wind is doing and know whether it is a positive, negative, or neutral effect.


Exactly. Every cyclist knows or should know from what direction the wind blows. It is in his or her genes.

Lou
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Old June 12th 19, 08:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Am 12.06.2019 um 03:51 schrieb Joy Beeson:
Then there was the time I got lost on the way home from Altamont
because my turn was at the top of an exhausting climb


This reminds me that I went up Garrowby Hill near York (A166 with a
one-mile climb of 1/6 gradient is the steepest main road I know - 80 mph
on the motor bike is no problem) to see how fast I can go down. When I
was back at the bottom of the hill, I noticed I had fogotten my bag at
the top when I took some water and caught breath before the descent.
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Old June 13th 19, 10:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 5:17:36 AM UTC-7, duane wrote:
On 11/06/2019 1:07 a.m., John B. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:17:52 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 3:45:43 PM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 1:13:44 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 2:06:14 AM UTC-7, db wrote:
Some days, on my way to work, it all feels great, I zoom along,
the bike responds beautifully, I feel strong today, wow. Then
I realise, I've got a tail wind.

--
Dieter Britz

The wind was blowing so hard last Thursday that on a descent that I usually averaged about 22 I could barely hold 12. Now THAT makes you feel old and slow.

I hear you! I did a ride from Peterborough, Ontario to Toronto, Ontario one day on an MTB with full knobby tires when the wind was VERY strong out of the south. Even on t he hills and pedaling REALLY hard I could get up to about 10 kph. I thumbed a ride and a guy drove me the 20 kms to Whitby, Ontario. That guy's ride saved me 2 hours of hard slugging. Once I turned right towards Toronto it wasn't too bad.

I remember doing a multi-day ride from Toronto to my home in NE Ohio. Riding
along the south shore of Lake Erie into a blasting headwind, I was on my on my
aero bars for mile after mile after mile, watching my cyclometer say "8 mph."

It takes an immense amount of training to give as much benefit as a 10 mph
tailwind, or to overcome the effect of a 10 mph headwind.

- Frank Krygowski


The real mystery is "why is there always have a head wind when on the
way back home" ?-)
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cheers,

John B.

No, the real mystery is why there is always a head wind.


It is especially disturbing when you're on a 50 mile ride and the wind clocks with your change in direction. These rides I do on Thursdays are like that. When I'm going down a 5% drop and can't get over 16 mph into the headwind it's pretty plain.
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Old Yesterday, 04:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:34:04 AM UTC-7, db wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:31:34 -0700, wrote:

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:06:14 AM UTC-5, db wrote:
Some days, on my way to work, it all feels great, I zoom along,
the bike responds beautifully, I feel strong today, wow. Then I
realise, I've got a tail wind.

--
Dieter Britz


Hmmmm???? I can honestly say I have never ever not known I have a
tailwind and think I'm going fast because I am strong. I always know
exactly what the wind is doing and know whether it is a positive,
negative, or neutral effect.


Straight man

--
Dieter Britz


Yesterday's ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAaHz6ns1aI Go to 1:06.. The problem with light bikes in high winds. Minus wind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAjNIkTOLVs Yesterday the wind was maybe 5mph -- brutal, and tourist traffic was surprisingly low for a sunny day. The somewhat great thing about the ride is that the cross-county part is now mostly on rail-trails, so I get to skip the glass-strewn roads though the mullet region of east Portland. The trails do accumulate homeless in places, but I get to stay off major roads until just outside bustling Troutdale, doormat of the Columbia River Gorge. https://www.restreets.org/sites/defa...utdaleICON.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.

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Old Yesterday, 08:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:34:04 AM UTC-7, db wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:31:34 -0700, wrote:

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:06:14 AM UTC-5, db wrote:
Some days, on my way to work, it all feels great, I zoom along,
the bike responds beautifully, I feel strong today, wow. Then I
realise, I've got a tail wind.

--
Dieter Britz

Hmmmm???? I can honestly say I have never ever not known I have a
tailwind and think I'm going fast because I am strong. I always know
exactly what the wind is doing and know whether it is a positive,
negative, or neutral effect.


Straight man

--
Dieter Britz


Yesterday's ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAaHz6ns1aI Go to 1:06. The problem with light bikes in high winds. Minus wind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAjNIkTOLVs Yesterday the wind was maybe 5mph -- brutal, and tourist traffic was surprisingly low for a sunny day. The somewhat great thing about the ride is that the cross-county part is now mostly on rail-trails, so I get to skip the glass-strewn roads though the mullet region of east Portland. The trails do accumulate homeless in places, but I get to stay off major roads until just outside bustling Troutdale, doormat of the Columbia River Gorge. https://www.restreets.org/sites/defa...utdaleICON.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.


I often ride down to Paris Ontario, Canada. In Cambridge, Canada there's a nice rail-trail that's so crowded on weekends in summer that i take the adjacent paved road instead. Dog walkers with dogs on long retractable leashes that the dog has pulled out to the maximum length are a real hazard as are the clueless people walking hither and thither along the trail whilst wearing earbuds so they can't hear anything else. It must be nice to live in an area where one can ride trails safely.

Cheers
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Old Yesterday, 10:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 12:11:33 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:34:04 AM UTC-7, db wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:31:34 -0700, wrote:

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:06:14 AM UTC-5, db wrote:
Some days, on my way to work, it all feels great, I zoom along,
the bike responds beautifully, I feel strong today, wow. Then I
realise, I've got a tail wind.

--
Dieter Britz

Hmmmm???? I can honestly say I have never ever not known I have a
tailwind and think I'm going fast because I am strong. I always know
exactly what the wind is doing and know whether it is a positive,
negative, or neutral effect.

Straight man

--
Dieter Britz


Yesterday's ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAaHz6ns1aI Go to 1:06. The problem with light bikes in high winds. Minus wind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAjNIkTOLVs Yesterday the wind was maybe 5mph -- brutal, and tourist traffic was surprisingly low for a sunny day. The somewhat great thing about the ride is that the cross-county part is now mostly on rail-trails, so I get to skip the glass-strewn roads though the mullet region of east Portland. The trails do accumulate homeless in places, but I get to stay off major roads until just outside bustling Troutdale, doormat of the Columbia River Gorge. https://www.restreets.org/sites/defa...utdaleICON.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.


I often ride down to Paris Ontario, Canada. In Cambridge, Canada there's a nice rail-trail that's so crowded on weekends in summer that i take the adjacent paved road instead. Dog walkers with dogs on long retractable leashes that the dog has pulled out to the maximum length are a real hazard as are the clueless people walking hither and thither along the trail whilst wearing earbuds so they can't hear anything else. It must be nice to live in an area where one can ride trails safely.

Cheers


No MUP is ideal, and we have homeless and all that brings -- but all in all, it beats being on the road in some places, and in fact, the Springwater Corridor, being a former railroad grade, skips some nuisance hills that suck bigly on dead legs coming home from the Gorge. On the way to Mt. Hood, you also skip one section of hills that is on a no-shoulder rural highway with 55mph speed limit and 60mph actual. Out in Boring, Oregon -- yes, that's the name of the town. https://www.clackamas.us/sites/defau...ation_hero.jpg I go through Boring to go skiing and riding in les montagnes. This is me catching some sick air on Mt. Hood. http://www..skibowl.com/summer/sites...Park-00372.jpg Uh, huh . . . that's right.

-- Jay Beattie.


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Old Yesterday, 10:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 12:11:33 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:34:04 AM UTC-7, db wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:31:34 -0700, wrote:

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:06:14 AM UTC-5, db wrote:
Some days, on my way to work, it all feels great, I zoom along,
the bike responds beautifully, I feel strong today, wow. Then I
realise, I've got a tail wind.

--
Dieter Britz

Hmmmm???? I can honestly say I have never ever not known I have a
tailwind and think I'm going fast because I am strong. I always know
exactly what the wind is doing and know whether it is a positive,
negative, or neutral effect.

Straight man

--
Dieter Britz

Yesterday's ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAaHz6ns1aI Go to 1:06. The problem with light bikes in high winds. Minus wind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAjNIkTOLVs Yesterday the wind was maybe 5mph -- brutal, and tourist traffic was surprisingly low for a sunny day. The somewhat great thing about the ride is that the cross-county part is now mostly on rail-trails, so I get to skip the glass-strewn roads though the mullet region of east Portland. The trails do accumulate homeless in places, but I get to stay off major roads until just outside bustling Troutdale, doormat of the Columbia River Gorge. https://www.restreets.org/sites/defa...utdaleICON.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.


I often ride down to Paris Ontario, Canada. In Cambridge, Canada there's a nice rail-trail that's so crowded on weekends in summer that i take the adjacent paved road instead. Dog walkers with dogs on long retractable leashes that the dog has pulled out to the maximum length are a real hazard as are the clueless people walking hither and thither along the trail whilst wearing earbuds so they can't hear anything else. It must be nice to live in an area where one can ride trails safely.

Cheers


No MUP is ideal, and we have homeless and all that brings -- but all in all, it beats being on the road in some places, and in fact, the Springwater Corridor, being a former railroad grade, skips some nuisance hills that suck bigly on dead legs coming home from the Gorge. On the way to Mt. Hood, you also skip one section of hills that is on a no-shoulder rural highway with 55mph speed limit and 60mph actual. Out in Boring, Oregon -- yes, that's the name of the town. https://www.clackamas.us/sites/defau...ation_hero.jpg I go through Boring to go skiing and riding in les montagnes. This is me catching some sick air on Mt. Hood. http://www.skibowl.com/summer/sites/...Park-00372.jpg Uh, huh . . . that's right.

-- Jay Beattie.


There's less than ideal and then there's downright annoying or even dangerous MUPs. The rail-trail from Cambridge Ontario, Canada runs down to Hamilton Canada. During the week or on weekends when it's raining or threatening to rain that rail-trail isn't too bad with long stretches where you see no one at all. One the weekends in summer it's like the 401 hwy during rush hour. Casual bicyclists, pedestrians, runners, dog walkers with dogs on long leashes and sometimes to make life even more interesting wannabe racer bicyclists who don't know the meaning of either yield or slow down. I'll take the road with its hills and such over the rail-trail then t hank you very much. Oh, I forgot to mention the canoeists and kayakers who'll carry their boats and meander accross the trail on their way to the boat launches.

Cheers
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On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 10:15:00 AM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:34:04 AM UTC-7, db wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:31:34 -0700, wrote:

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:06:14 AM UTC-5, db wrote:
Some days, on my way to work, it all feels great, I zoom along,
the bike responds beautifully, I feel strong today, wow. Then I
realise, I've got a tail wind.

--
Dieter Britz

Hmmmm???? I can honestly say I have never ever not known I have a
tailwind and think I'm going fast because I am strong. I always know
exactly what the wind is doing and know whether it is a positive,
negative, or neutral effect.


Straight man

--
Dieter Britz


Yesterday's ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAaHz6ns1aI Go to 1:06. The problem with light bikes in high winds. Minus wind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAjNIkTOLVs Yesterday the wind was maybe 5mph -- brutal, and tourist traffic was surprisingly low for a sunny day. The somewhat great thing about the ride is that the cross-county part is now mostly on rail-trails, so I get to skip the glass-strewn roads though the mullet region of east Portland. The trails do accumulate homeless in places, but I get to stay off major roads until just outside bustling Troutdale, doormat of the Columbia River Gorge. https://www.restreets.org/sites/defa...utdaleICON.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.


For me, a 5 mph wind is like air conditioning in Texas where I live.

But I live close to a lake which connects to an ocean.

Andy
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On 6/16/2019 5:56 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 12:11:33 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:34:04 AM UTC-7, db wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:31:34 -0700, wrote:

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:06:14 AM UTC-5, db wrote:
Some days, on my way to work, it all feels great, I zoom along,
the bike responds beautifully, I feel strong today, wow. Then I
realise, I've got a tail wind.

--
Dieter Britz

Hmmmm???? I can honestly say I have never ever not known I have a
tailwind and think I'm going fast because I am strong. I always know
exactly what the wind is doing and know whether it is a positive,
negative, or neutral effect.

Straight man

--
Dieter Britz

Yesterday's ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAaHz6ns1aI Go to 1:06. The problem with light bikes in high winds. Minus wind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAjNIkTOLVs Yesterday the wind was maybe 5mph -- brutal, and tourist traffic was surprisingly low for a sunny day. The somewhat great thing about the ride is that the cross-county part is now mostly on rail-trails, so I get to skip the glass-strewn roads though the mullet region of east Portland. The trails do accumulate homeless in places, but I get to stay off major roads until just outside bustling Troutdale, doormat of the Columbia River Gorge. https://www.restreets.org/sites/defa...utdaleICON.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.

I often ride down to Paris Ontario, Canada. In Cambridge, Canada there's a nice rail-trail that's so crowded on weekends in summer that i take the adjacent paved road instead. Dog walkers with dogs on long retractable leashes that the dog has pulled out to the maximum length are a real hazard as are the clueless people walking hither and thither along the trail whilst wearing earbuds so they can't hear anything else. It must be nice to live in an area where one can ride trails safely.

Cheers


No MUP is ideal, and we have homeless and all that brings -- but all in all, it beats being on the road in some places, and in fact, the Springwater Corridor, being a former railroad grade, skips some nuisance hills that suck bigly on dead legs coming home from the Gorge. On the way to Mt. Hood, you also skip one section of hills that is on a no-shoulder rural highway with 55mph speed limit and 60mph actual. Out in Boring, Oregon -- yes, that's the name of the town. https://www.clackamas.us/sites/defau...ation_hero.jpg I go through Boring to go skiing and riding in les montagnes. This is me catching some sick air on Mt. Hood. http://www.skibowl.com/summer/sites/...Park-00372.jpg Uh, huh . . . that's right.

-- Jay Beattie.


There's less than ideal and then there's downright annoying or even dangerous MUPs. The rail-trail from Cambridge Ontario, Canada runs down to Hamilton Canada. During the week or on weekends when it's raining or threatening to rain that rail-trail isn't too bad with long stretches where you see no one at all. One the weekends in summer it's like the 401 hwy during rush hour. Casual bicyclists, pedestrians, runners, dog walkers with dogs on long leashes and sometimes to make life even more interesting wannabe racer bicyclists who don't know the meaning of either yield or slow down. I'll take the road with its hills and such over the rail-trail then t hank you very much. Oh, I forgot to mention the canoeists and kayakers who'll carry their boats and meander accross the trail on their way to the boat launches.


I do find some rail-trails to be quite pleasant.

The empty ones.



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