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Old September 21st 08, 12:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Sep 20, 11:39*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 20, 6:46 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 20, 1:40 am, wrote:
On Sep 19, 1:13 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
a privilege cyclists
haven't earned
I think going
* 0.0000000373c is a privilege motorists
have not earned.
Sorry, Norman, I don't get it. Is .373c^-e to the somethingth that I'm
too slack to count a constant I'm supposed to recognize and from which
I am further supposed to derive the joke? It looks like something I
used to remember when I wanted to translate watts to nutritionist's
kcal when I had a Ciclosport HAC4; my new Sigma PC9 tells me kcal
directly, so I now longer bother to remember the constant.
"c" is the speed of a photon in a vacuum. 0.0000000373c converts to 40 kph.


Thanks. How many els is that? -- AJ


5.80 x 10^4 els/hour.


I beg to differ. An ell is six handbreadths, so call it 45 ladylike
inches since we are after all talking of textiles. 40kph is
1574803.1520000013 in/hr, or 34995.6 els/hour.

Your ell would be 57in wide. No wonder the American textile industry
went down the tubes if they were giving it away like that!

Andre Jute
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Old September 21st 08, 12:45 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Sherman[_2_]
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Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 20, 11:39 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 20, 6:46 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 20, 1:40 am, wrote:
On Sep 19, 1:13 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
a privilege cyclists
haven't earned
I think going
0.0000000373c is a privilege motorists
have not earned.
Sorry, Norman, I don't get it. Is .373c^-e to the somethingth that I'm
too slack to count a constant I'm supposed to recognize and from which
I am further supposed to derive the joke? It looks like something I
used to remember when I wanted to translate watts to nutritionist's
kcal when I had a Ciclosport HAC4; my new Sigma PC9 tells me kcal
directly, so I now longer bother to remember the constant.
"c" is the speed of a photon in a vacuum. 0.0000000373c converts to 40 kph.
Thanks. How many els is that? -- AJ

5.80 x 10^4 els/hour.


I beg to differ. An ell is six handbreadths, so call it 45 ladylike
inches since we are after all talking of textiles. 40kph is
1574803.1520000013 in/hr, or 34995.6 els/hour.

Too many digits there, since the original figure presented by Guillaume
le Conquérant only had three significant digits.

Your ell would be 57in wide. No wonder the American textile industry
went down the tubes if they were giving it away like that!


I was using the Dutch "el" not the English "ell", Scottish "ell" or
German or Viennese "elle".

0.0000000373c is 3.50 x 10^4 English ell/hour, 4.23 x 10^4 Scottish
ell/hour, 6.67 x 10^4 German elle/hour and 5.13 x 10^4 Viennese elle/hour.

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Old September 21st 08, 05:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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That was an exception. Cycling in Ireland in the country is almost
nil. In the main cities even less. And not surprising. Cycling in
Dublin inner city is a passport to Heaven. Extremely ignorant drivers
with little if any regard for cyclists in the tense jams. The
introduction of bike and bus lanes has just seen more people parking
their cars in the high street thinking the lanes are reserved spaces.


From my experience, if you want to get rid of an American, let him rent a
bike in Dublin -- just the disorientation of riding in "wrong side" traffic
will do him in, not to mention cars and lorries coming at him from places
he doesn't exect.

Barry Harmon
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Old September 21st 08, 06:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Sep 21, 5:36*pm, Barry Harmon wrote:
That was an exception. Cycling in Ireland in the country is almost
nil. In the main cities even less. And not surprising. Cycling in
Dublin inner city is a passport to Heaven. Extremely ignorant drivers
with little if any regard for cyclists in the tense jams. The
introduction of bike and bus lanes has just seen more people parking
their cars in the high street thinking the lanes are reserved spaces.


From my experience, if you want to get rid of an American,


Never happen. Ireland is the one country in Europe where Americans are
unconditionally popular. We just cannot understand why all the others
who have benefited from American largesse are such ingrates.

let him rent a
bike in Dublin -- just the disorientation of riding in "wrong side" traffic
will do him in,


A lot of the Irish drive on the right anyway, just as a matter of
principle. What's the point of being a nation of scofflaws if you obey
the law?

not to mention cars and lorries coming at him from places
he doesn't exect.


In Melbourne there's a road beside the lake at Albert Park (the one
around which the F1 GP runs). I was tootling up there one night in a
little Bertone spider, of which there were 8 total over built, and
mine was the second last to survive, when a fat old woman in an even
older Holden came out of a side street and flattened the front of my
beautiful little car. When I got off the crutches, I bought a bigger
midengined car to protect my ankles, and wouldn't you just know it, on
the same road, a fat old woman in an even older Holden came out of a
side street and flattened my beautiful car -- and my ankles. Thing is,
the law in Australia at the time was that you had to give way to
people coming in from side streets on your right, that is, across the
opposing flow of traffic. Those two fat old women in their old bangers
were entirely within their rights... The law can sometimes be an ass,
and then it should be kicked into touch.

Andre Jute
Sometime revolutionary, fulltime reactionary

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Old September 21st 08, 07:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Michael Press
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In article
,
Andre Jute wrote:

On Sep 20, 11:39*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 20, 6:46 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 20, 1:40 am, wrote:
On Sep 19, 1:13 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
a privilege cyclists
haven't earned
I think going
* 0.0000000373c is a privilege motorists
have not earned.
Sorry, Norman, I don't get it. Is .373c^-e to the somethingth that I'm
too slack to count a constant I'm supposed to recognize and from which
I am further supposed to derive the joke? It looks like something I
used to remember when I wanted to translate watts to nutritionist's
kcal when I had a Ciclosport HAC4; my new Sigma PC9 tells me kcal
directly, so I now longer bother to remember the constant.
"c" is the speed of a photon in a vacuum. 0.0000000373c converts to 40 kph.


Thanks. How many els is that? -- AJ


5.80 x 10^4 els/hour.


I beg to differ. An ell is six handbreadths, so call it 45 ladylike
inches since we are after all talking of textiles. 40kph is
1574803.1520000013 in/hr, or 34995.6 els/hour.

Your ell would be 57in wide. No wonder the American textile industry
went down the tubes if they were giving it away like that!


I get 35220 ell/hour, using /usr/bin/units.

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Michael Press
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Old September 21st 08, 10:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sep 19, 8:28*pm, Barry Harmon wrote:
Andre Jute wrote in news:b6e784cd-bdd0-4920-aa54-
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I saw a camper with two shiny new bikes on the back in a beauty spot,
unable to get out because the roadmakers had blocked off the exit
while they work on the road. Nodody with the camper; the owners must
have walked away, fearing that if they ride their bikes they will get
hot tar on them. They apparently didn't know of the path along the
hillside starting behind the big stone only 20 paces from their
camper. Or perhaps their bikes are for show only; if they didn't
discover the lovely little foot and cyclepath, they're hardly
adventurous.


I saw a man on a cheap bike, clearly not up to any kind of a long
tour, but it had panniers fitted for his shopping and he was clearly
coming from work, complete with briefcase on his rack. That's a
heartening sight which one sees every few weeks not. Until recently
you never saw it; the only panniers you saw were on the bikes of a few
foreign tourists, serious bikies.


And that is the clue why the panniers on the bike of Everyman are so
important. Serious bikies, so often grim and narcistically involved
with their shaven legs, will never in a million years influence more
than a tiny majority of grim masochists to take up cycling; they've
tried and failed. But just one regular guy turning up at the office on
a bike proves it is feasible, especially if he doesn't even try to
proselytize. The panniers prove the guy cycles regularly to work. So I
expect to see a few more cyclists with modest bikes with panniers
fitted in years to come. Come to think of it, I saw a second bike with
panniers today, and entirely unsuitable bike at that, one of those low
mountainbikes for some specialized purposes like stumpjumping or
riding upside down. There were actual groceries sticking out of the
panniers.


I also saw something seriously stupid. Two of the cyclists I saw near
University Hospital, a biking hotspot in Cork, Ireland, were on their
mobile phones. This is stupid for a number of reasons. It is dangerous
to the cyclist. It infuriates motorists as a privilege cyclists
haven't earned, because it is illegal for them to use mobile phones
while moving and he police have been clamping down. And it is
provocative for cyclists to do anything at all forbidden to motorists.


Andre Jute
When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back -- Freddy
Nietzsche


I helped run a company in Ireland in the late 19802 and early 1990s and
went there several times. *I was taken by the number of people on bikes
in small villages and towns. *These were mostly bikes that were maybe as
old as I was and still in working condition and, from what I saw, with
very little maintenance.

Barry Harmon


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Old September 23rd 08, 03:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Andre Jute wrote in
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On Sep 21, 5:36*pm, Barry Harmon wrote:
That was an exception. Cycling in Ireland in the country is almost
nil. In the main cities even less. And not surprising. Cycling in
Dublin inner city is a passport to Heaven. Extremely ignorant
drivers with little if any regard for cyclists in the tense jams.
The introduction of bike and bus lanes has just seen more people
parking their cars in the high street thinking the lanes are
reserved spaces.


From my experience, if you want to get rid of an American,


Never happen. Ireland is the one country in Europe where Americans are
unconditionally popular. We just cannot understand why all the others
who have benefited from American largesse are such ingrates.



I didn't say the Irish would do it, I just said that that is a method that
would work.

Barry Harmon
 




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