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A friend of mine just had a custom bike built and although it fits great there is a 2 cm shoe overlap of the front wheel. The danger of this is making a hard turn and trying to straighten out with your foot then in the way. Criterium racers in particular could do this because they only stop pedalling at the absolute apex and then start again with the front wheel still turned.
Anyone else had any experience with this? I remember high siding because of this. Luckily not in a race to be run over by a hundred riders. |
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On 10/03/2017 1:50 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2017 11:14 AM, wrote: A friend of mine just had a custom bike built and although it fits great there is a 2 cm shoe overlap of the front wheel. The danger of this is making a hard turn and trying to straighten out with your foot then in the way. Criterium racers in particular could do this because they only stop pedalling at the absolute apex and then start again with the front wheel still turned. Anyone else had any experience with this? I remember high siding because of this. Luckily not in a race to be run over by a hundred riders. A known issue but I am very much surprised that his builder didn't discuss that with the client before starting any metalwork. Usually, the drawing is reviewed in depth, and revised through several iterations, before the build. That's not unusual with a compact frame is it? My Tarmac is like that. I found out doing a track stand in traffic and got my toe stuck between the wheel and frame. ouch. Though I've never had issues when actually moving as my wheel doesn't turn that much then. |
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On 3/10/2017 2:23 PM, Duane wrote:
On 10/03/2017 1:50 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 3/10/2017 11:14 AM, wrote: A friend of mine just had a custom bike built and although it fits great there is a 2 cm shoe overlap of the front wheel. The danger of this is making a hard turn and trying to straighten out with your foot then in the way. Criterium racers in particular could do this because they only stop pedalling at the absolute apex and then start again with the front wheel still turned. Anyone else had any experience with this? I remember high siding because of this. Luckily not in a race to be run over by a hundred riders. A known issue but I am very much surprised that his builder didn't discuss that with the client before starting any metalwork. Usually, the drawing is reviewed in depth, and revised through several iterations, before the build. That's not unusual with a compact frame is it? My Tarmac is like that. I found out doing a track stand in traffic and got my toe stuck between the wheel and frame. ouch. Though I've never had issues when actually moving as my wheel doesn't turn that much then. Right, and Frank touched on that as well. My concern is that for a custom designed frame, the builder ought to have discussed this at some point with the rider before the build. It's not 'wrong', but some riders really hate it and will accept a longer top tube rather than overlap if given the choice. At any rate a custom frame shouldn't have surprises. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 10/03/2017 3:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2017 2:23 PM, Duane wrote: On 10/03/2017 1:50 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 3/10/2017 11:14 AM, wrote: A friend of mine just had a custom bike built and although it fits great there is a 2 cm shoe overlap of the front wheel. The danger of this is making a hard turn and trying to straighten out with your foot then in the way. Criterium racers in particular could do this because they only stop pedalling at the absolute apex and then start again with the front wheel still turned. Anyone else had any experience with this? I remember high siding because of this. Luckily not in a race to be run over by a hundred riders. A known issue but I am very much surprised that his builder didn't discuss that with the client before starting any metalwork. Usually, the drawing is reviewed in depth, and revised through several iterations, before the build. That's not unusual with a compact frame is it? My Tarmac is like that. I found out doing a track stand in traffic and got my toe stuck between the wheel and frame. ouch. Though I've never had issues when actually moving as my wheel doesn't turn that much then. Right, and Frank touched on that as well. My concern is that for a custom designed frame, the builder ought to have discussed this at some point with the rider before the build. It's not 'wrong', but some riders really hate it and will accept a longer top tube rather than overlap if given the choice. At any rate a custom frame shouldn't have surprises. Agreed. |
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:34:32 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2017 2:23 PM, Duane wrote: On 10/03/2017 1:50 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 3/10/2017 11:14 AM, wrote: A friend of mine just had a custom bike built and although it fits great there is a 2 cm shoe overlap of the front wheel. The danger of this is making a hard turn and trying to straighten out with your foot then in the way. Criterium racers in particular could do this because they only stop pedalling at the absolute apex and then start again with the front wheel still turned. Anyone else had any experience with this? I remember high siding because of this. Luckily not in a race to be run over by a hundred riders. A known issue but I am very much surprised that his builder didn't discuss that with the client before starting any metalwork. Usually, the drawing is reviewed in depth, and revised through several iterations, before the build. That's not unusual with a compact frame is it? My Tarmac is like that. I found out doing a track stand in traffic and got my toe stuck between the wheel and frame. ouch. Though I've never had issues when actually moving as my wheel doesn't turn that much then. Right, and Frank touched on that as well. My concern is that for a custom designed frame, the builder ought to have discussed this at some point with the rider before the build. It's not 'wrong', but some riders really hate it and will accept a longer top tube rather than overlap if given the choice. At any rate a custom frame shouldn't have surprises. One can only speculate why one would buy a custom frame if it didn't fit, exactly, one's requirements. One can only assume that the O.P.'s friend didn't know exactly what he wanted. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 4:36:16 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:34:32 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 3/10/2017 2:23 PM, Duane wrote: On 10/03/2017 1:50 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 3/10/2017 11:14 AM, wrote: A friend of mine just had a custom bike built and although it fits great there is a 2 cm shoe overlap of the front wheel. The danger of this is making a hard turn and trying to straighten out with your foot then in the way. Criterium racers in particular could do this because they only stop pedalling at the absolute apex and then start again with the front wheel still turned. Anyone else had any experience with this? I remember high siding because of this. Luckily not in a race to be run over by a hundred riders. A known issue but I am very much surprised that his builder didn't discuss that with the client before starting any metalwork. Usually, the drawing is reviewed in depth, and revised through several iterations, before the build. That's not unusual with a compact frame is it? My Tarmac is like that. I found out doing a track stand in traffic and got my toe stuck between the wheel and frame. ouch. Though I've never had issues when actually moving as my wheel doesn't turn that much then. Right, and Frank touched on that as well. My concern is that for a custom designed frame, the builder ought to have discussed this at some point with the rider before the build. It's not 'wrong', but some riders really hate it and will accept a longer top tube rather than overlap if given the choice. At any rate a custom frame shouldn't have surprises. One can only speculate why one would buy a custom frame if it didn't fit, exactly, one's requirements. One can only assume that the O.P.'s friend didn't know exactly what he wanted. -- John, When you're getting a custom made bike from a foreign country you're assuming that they know what they're doing since you have to rely on their reputation a great deal. When after the frame and fork is delivered you STILL don't know much about it until it is completely assembled and you are able to test it out. So how do you NOT buy a pig in a poke? Just three degrees more rake and there wouldn't have been any problem. |
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On 2017-03-10 10:50, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2017 11:14 AM, wrote: A friend of mine just had a custom bike built and although it fits great there is a 2 cm shoe overlap of the front wheel. The danger of this is making a hard turn and trying to straighten out with your foot then in the way. Criterium racers in particular could do this because they only stop pedalling at the absolute apex and then start again with the front wheel still turned. Anyone else had any experience with this? I remember high siding because of this. Luckily not in a race to be run over by a hundred riders. A known issue but I am very much surprised that his builder didn't discuss that with the client before starting any metalwork. Usually, the drawing is reviewed in depth, and revised through several iterations, before the build. Surprise here, too. Before my road bike was custom built one of the standard questions was what sort of shoes I wear and which pedals I prefer. While my statement that I might some day use platform pedals caused disgust in his face he ordered the perfect frame geometry for me. I now have ... gasp ... large MTB pedals on it and a good 5cm overhang would be fine without interference, more that I ever need. On the MTB I could almost wear army boots and ride on the heels without wheel interference. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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