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Old August 4th 07, 08:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carmine Clamenza
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Default Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation

See the cyclingnews.com excerpt below. Leonardo Bertagnolli started his pro
career just 6 years ago and recently recovered from cardiac arrhythmia. Is
the UCI wondering if his cardiac arrhythmia is related to doping? Doesn't
the UCI believe that EPO renders the blood dense and causes serious vascular
problems like cardiac arrhythmia? Is the UCI going to open an investigation
into the true cause of Leonardo's victory? I will not be surprised if they
do.

-----------------------------------

"Leonardo Bertagnolli has marked a splendid return to his best by winning
the 27th edition of the Clásica San Sebastián today in Spain. The 29
year-old Italian of Team Liquigas escaped at 11 kilometres remaining of the
225-kilometre race with Juan Manuel Gárate (Quick.Step Innergetic) to then
overpower the Spaniard in a head to head sprint on the hot finishing
straight along the Bay of Biscay. A small chase headed by Alejandro Valverde
(Caisse d'Epargne) and Alessandro Ballan (Lampre-Fondital) finished around a
half-minute back.

The sixth-year professional from Trento had to stop for a month this spring
for what doctors diagnosed as cardiac arrhythmia but he was able to build
back to top-form and mark his first win after 17 months."

Source:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007...07/?id=results


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Old August 5th 07, 04:40 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation

On Aug 4, 1:05 pm, "Carmine Clamenza"
wrote:
See the cyclingnews.com excerpt below. Leonardo Bertagnolli started his pro
career just 6 years ago and recently recovered from cardiac arrhythmia. Is
the UCI wondering if his cardiac arrhythmia is related to doping? Doesn't
the UCI believe that EPO renders the blood dense and causes serious vascular
problems like cardiac arrhythmia? Is the UCI going to open an investigation
into the true cause of Leonardo's victory? I will not be surprised if they
do.

-----------------------------------

"Leonardo Bertagnolli has marked a splendid return to his best by winning
the 27th edition of the Clásica San Sebastián today in Spain. The 29
year-old Italian of Team Liquigas escaped at 11 kilometres remaining of the
225-kilometre race with Juan Manuel Gárate (Quick.Step Innergetic) to then
overpower the Spaniard in a head to head sprint on the hot finishing
straight along the Bay of Biscay. A small chase headed by Alejandro Valverde
(Caisse d'Epargne) and Alessandro Ballan (Lampre-Fondital) finished around a
half-minute back.

The sixth-year professional from Trento had to stop for a month this spring
for what doctors diagnosed as cardiac arrhythmia but he was able to build
back to top-form and mark his first win after 17 months."

Source:http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007...07/?id=results


Cardiac arrythmia is not a vascular problem. It's a cardiac problem,
and it may not be a problem at all. Lot's of people have various
forms of arrythmia with no ill effect at all, and it's not caused by
doping.


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Old August 5th 07, 06:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation

Darbepoetin alfa (rINN) (IPA: [d??(?)b?'p??t?n]) is a synthetic form of
erythropoietin. It stimulates erythropoiesis (increases red blood cell
levels) and is used to treat anemia, commonly associated with chronic renal
failure and cancer chemotherapy. Darbepoetin is marketed by Amgen under the
trade name Aranesp.

Like EPO its use increases the risk of cardiovascular problems, including
cardiac arrest, seizures, A-R-R-H-Y-T-H-M-I-A or strokes, hypertension and
hypertensive encephalopathy, congestive heart failure, vascular thrombosis
or ischemia, myocardial infarction and edema.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darbepoetin_alfa

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"Carmine Clamenza" wrote in message
news
See the cyclingnews.com excerpt below. Leonardo Bertagnolli started his
pro career just 6 years ago and recently recovered from cardiac
arrhythmia. Is the UCI wondering if his cardiac arrhythmia is related to
doping? Doesn't the UCI believe that EPO renders the blood dense and
causes serious vascular problems like cardiac arrhythmia? Is the UCI
going to open an investigation into the true cause of Leonardo's victory?
I will not be surprised if they do.

-----------------------------------

"Leonardo Bertagnolli has marked a splendid return to his best by winning
the 27th edition of the Clásica San Sebastián today in Spain. The 29
year-old Italian of Team Liquigas escaped at 11 kilometres remaining of
the 225-kilometre race with Juan Manuel Gárate (Quick.Step Innergetic) to
then overpower the Spaniard in a head to head sprint on the hot finishing
straight along the Bay of Biscay. A small chase headed by Alejandro
Valverde (Caisse d'Epargne) and Alessandro Ballan (Lampre-Fondital)
finished around a half-minute back.

The sixth-year professional from Trento had to stop for a month this
spring for what doctors diagnosed as cardiac arrhythmia but he was able to
build back to top-form and mark his first win after 17 months."

Source:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007...07/?id=results




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Old August 5th 07, 01:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation

On Aug 4, 11:55 pm, "Carmine Clamenza"
wrote:
Darbepoetin alfa (rINN) (IPA: [d??(?)b?'p??t?n]) is a synthetic form of
erythropoietin. It stimulates erythropoiesis (increases red blood cell
levels) and is used to treat anemia, commonly associated with chronic renal
failure and cancer chemotherapy. Darbepoetin is marketed by Amgen under the
trade name Aranesp.

Like EPO its use increases the risk of cardiovascular problems, including
cardiac arrest, seizures, A-R-R-H-Y-T-H-M-I-A or strokes, hypertension and
hypertensive encephalopathy, congestive heart failure, vascular thrombosis
or ischemia, myocardial infarction and edema.

Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darbepoetin_alfa

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"Carmine Clamenza" wrote in message

news


See the cyclingnews.com excerpt below. Leonardo Bertagnolli started his
pro career just 6 years ago and recently recovered from cardiac
arrhythmia. Is the UCI wondering if his cardiac arrhythmia is related to
doping? Doesn't the UCI believe that EPO renders the blood dense and
causes serious vascular problems like cardiac arrhythmia? Is the UCI
going to open an investigation into the true cause of Leonardo's victory?
I will not be surprised if they do.


-----------------------------------


"Leonardo Bertagnolli has marked a splendid return to his best by winning
the 27th edition of the Clásica San Sebastián today in Spain. The 29
year-old Italian of Team Liquigas escaped at 11 kilometres remaining of
the 225-kilometre race with Juan Manuel Gárate (Quick.Step Innergetic) to
then overpower the Spaniard in a head to head sprint on the hot finishing
straight along the Bay of Biscay. A small chase headed by Alejandro
Valverde (Caisse d'Epargne) and Alessandro Ballan (Lampre-Fondital)
finished around a half-minute back.


The sixth-year professional from Trento had to stop for a month this
spring for what doctors diagnosed as cardiac arrhythmia but he was able to
build back to top-form and mark his first win after 17 months."


Source:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007...7/?id=results- Hide quoted text -


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That's great... but it still doesn't change the facts that an
arrythmia is not a vascular problem or that lot's of people have
arrythmias. I have one, you may have one, you won't know for sure if
you've never been tested. Mine was determined to be of no particular
risk and was considered to be due to the fact I was 'too athletic', to
put it in the terms of the cardiologist who did my stress test.

You can try to stir up the **** pot if you wish and make something out
of this if you want, but its not really helping anything/anyone to go
on witch hunts every time a cyclist presents with a health problem
that MIGHT be a result of drug use, but it also a commonly found
problem in perhaps a quarter of the population at large.


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Old August 5th 07, 02:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation

Oh, so now you go to Wika - effing - pedia for medical knowledge.

Go to the prescribing information for any legal drug. In a large percentage
of them you will find arrythmia / dysrythmia as a consequence. You will also
find that many drugs cause constipation, and diarrhia.
Go figure.
Read Scott's post again. He appears to be a better source than your googling
wikapedia





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Old August 5th 07, 03:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carmine Clamenza
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Now that is even greater because that was my point with regard to the UCI.
The UCI is not really helping anything/anyone to go on which hunts everytime
a cyclist presents with a health problem (e.g., Ryan Cox of Barloworld) that
MIGHT be a result of drug use.

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That's great... but it still doesn't change the facts that an
arrythmia is not a vascular problem or that lot's of people have
arrythmias. I have one, you may have one, you won't know for sure if
you've never been tested. Mine was determined to be of no particular
risk and was considered to be due to the fact I was 'too athletic', to
put it in the terms of the cardiologist who did my stress test.

You can try to stir up the **** pot if you wish and make something out
of this if you want, but its not really helping anything/anyone to go
on witch hunts every time a cyclist presents with a health problem
that MIGHT be a result of drug use, but it also a commonly found
problem in perhaps a quarter of the population at large.



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Old August 5th 07, 10:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Old August 5th 07, 11:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Learn to tell me what "bottom post" means.


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Old August 6th 07, 03:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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cadiac arrythmia may be casued by amphetimine use.
younguys have a looooonnnnngggg way to go on this subject.
frankly yourn ignorance is limiting to the outskirts of Muskogee.
try the library.

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Old August 6th 07, 12:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"datakoll" wrote in message
oups.com...


cadiac arrythmia may be casued by amphetimine use.
younguys have a looooonnnnngggg way to go on this subject.
frankly yourn ignorance is limiting to the outskirts of Muskogee.
try the library.


It can be caused by many things, and also appears as a warning or precaution
in many drug profiles. Do not jump to the conclusion that it is drug caused.

Your knowledge probably matches your spelling.



 




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