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The perfect recumbent?
On Jun 8, 5:48*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Jun 4, 6:11 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: "JimmyMac" wrote in message .... On Jun 3, 5:14 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Poor JimmyMac took a few logic courses in college and never recovered from it. It is why I have him at a permanent disadvantage. All he knows how to do is to argue around the edges whereas I go to the heart of the matter. You are contradicting what you once wrote ... "Jim McNamara of this newsgroup can help you with your logical thinking as he is an expert on the subject." *I may not be an expert, but I am certainly light years beyond your ability when it comes to reasoning and the art of debate. Knowing something about the subject of logic and being able to employ it are two different things. Agree. ... so ,when are you going to learn about logic and then employ (apply) it??? LIke you, yourself said .. I could help you with your logical thinking, but you must take that first step and be willing to learn. [...] An opinion can only be refuted by a better opinion, not by a presentation of some usually irrelevant and trivial facts. PURE CRAP ... and opinion cannot refute another opinion, *Do you not know the definition of the word there Conan the Librarian??? Some opinions are better than others. Even a moron knows that much. Well put ... MORON!!! Everybody who, unlike yourself, isn't a moron, knows otherwise. [...] Your average person does not want to argue nor does he know how. An that is precisely what make you so very AVERAGE. *Although I realize that this is very likely just a waste of time, I will try this one more time to see if any of it sinks into that thick head of yours. *A fact is a pragmatic truth which can be verified and confirmed as opposed to perception, belief or opinion which, though held to be true, is not amenable to confirmation. *A fact exists independent the of mind and that means everyone except the most contentious of persons (like you ... DOLAN) would readily acknowledge and be in agreement about it ... like temperature, for instance. Measurable, temperature is a fact and is not subject to interpretation. *Interpretation is basically a conception based on belief and/or judgment. *It's basically your opinion. *As valid as an opinion may seem to be and as strongly as an opinion is may be held, it is little more than an interpretation conceived to fit the facts as perceived. *You often offer your perceptions as if fact when you are merely stating nothing more than opinion. *Opinion is not a fact and that's a fact no matter what kind of spin you attempt to put on it. No one will know what to think of a fact until it has been properly interpreted and put in a proper context. Facts by themselves are meaningless. In your opinion stated as fact you mean. Through obfuscation, you obscure the very distinct difference between fact and opinion ... always have and always will. That is what education is all about, not the learning of endless facts, but rather how to think about facts. Very many students of science lose interest because they quickly become submerged in a sea of facts without any overall view of how to put the facts together so as to make some sense of them. I gave up the study of geology back in the 60's when I was at college because I could not make any sense out of the facts of the different epochs or of the facts that form the earth's surface (mountain building for instance). Recent advances in the geological sciences now pretty much explain the formerly mysterious facts. If the theory of plate tectonics had existed back then I would perhaps have become a geologist instead of a gadfly. It is the same in biology. None of it makes any sense without a theory to explain the facts. You stand in testimony to the notion that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. As a former college librarian I am only too well aware of the universe of facts. That is why I have a proper contempt for them. Anyone who worships facts is a fool. It is the besetting sin of technological types. *It is pity really because it is argumentation that makes the world go around. You have often indicated that no matter whether right or wrong, you love to argue. You seem to think the world revolves around you and hangs on your every thought and word. You are ego-centric in the extreme, afflicted with an exaggerated sense of self-importance. That's your self-image (read opinion). Then again, you've often stated that you are all about opinion and opinion is not synonymous with FACT!!! If you have learned nothing from this give and take (and it appears you have not), at least profit by that bit of wisdom. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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The perfect recumbent?
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Jun 8, 5:48 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] As a former college librarian I am only too well aware of the universe of facts. That is why I have a proper contempt for them. Anyone who worships facts is a fool. It is the besetting sin of technological types. You have often indicated that no matter whether right or wrong, you love to argue. You seem to think the world revolves around you and hangs on your every thought and word. You are ego-centric in the extreme, afflicted with an exaggerated sense of self-importance. That's your self-image (read opinion). Then again, you've often stated that you are all about opinion and opinion is not synonymous with FACT!!! If you have learned nothing from this give and take (and it appears you have not), at least profit by that bit of wisdom. It is undeniable that I am Great which is why I am universally known throughout the world as Ed Dolan the Great. It is OK to revere Me, but not necessary to worship Me. An opinion can only be opposed by another opinion. Facts do not have anything to do with it. I can dispose of facts as easily as a duck sheds water. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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The perfect recumbent?
On Jun 9, 5:27*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Jun 8, 5:48 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] As a former college librarian I am only too well aware of the universe of facts. That is why I have a proper contempt for them. Anyone who worships facts is a fool. It is the besetting sin of technological types. You have often indicated that no matter whether right or wrong, you love to argue. * You seem to think the world revolves around you and hangs on your every thought and word. *You are ego-centric in the extreme, afflicted with an exaggerated sense of self-importance. That's your self-image (read opinion). *Then again, you've often stated that you are all about opinion and opinion is not synonymous with FACT!!! *If you have learned nothing from this give and take (and it appears you have not), at least profit by that bit of wisdom. It is undeniable that I am Great which is why I am universally known throughout the world as Ed Dolan the Great. It is OK to revere Me, but not necessary to worship Me. You'll suffocate if you hold your breath expecting either. A single word just about sums you up ... SELF-ABSORBED!!!!! An opinion can only be opposed by another opinion. Facts do not have anything to do with it. I can dispose of facts as easily as a duck sheds water. This fallacious tenet has already been refuted numerous times. but by all mean feel free to take delight in self-deception. Discussion is now closed. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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