Another Case of those safe CF bikes

The 2017 Tour of Flanders....

This rider was involved in a single rider crash on a city street lined with people and NO obstructions to run into.

The Bahrain Merida Pro Cycling Team rides Merida bikes, specifically the Scultura Team and Reacto Team model bikes. Both are full carbon fiber.

I have a picture but of course we cannot post pictures here. The bike broke about 5 inches above the bottom bracket on the down tube and about the same distance from the seat tube on the top tube. It appears that he was uninjured which suggests that he fell into the street lining crowd.

We know that anyone that rides a CF bike is more interested in saving a couple of lbs rather than his own safety but then that is a problem that will solve itself.

On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 3:50:27 PM UTC-7, wrote:
The 2017 Tour of Flanders....

This rider was involved in a single rider crash on a city street lined with people and NO obstructions to run into.

The Bahrain Merida Pro Cycling Team rides Merida bikes, specifically the Scultura Team and Reacto Team model bikes. Both are full carbon fiber.

I have a picture but of course we cannot post pictures here. The bike broke about 5 inches above the bottom bracket on the down tube and about the same distance from the seat tube on the top tube. It appears that he was uninjured which suggests that he fell into the street lining crowd.

We know that anyone that rides a CF bike is more interested in saving a couple of lbs rather than his own safety but then that is a problem that will solve itself.

THE FORKS ON MY SUPERSIX BROKE!!!!!!! After my wife drove under a low overhang with my bike on the roof rack. Time for marriage counseling.

The overhang hit the saddle, ripped it off caught the post and pulled the bike out of the fork mount, ripping off the lawyer-lips and fraying the fork ends. I took it over to Ruckus Composites for repair. They won't warranty forks, so I'll be getting a new pair. Even though the frame took a huge bending load on the downtube at the seatpost, it looks fine. I'll find out from Ruckus on Monday. Waaaaaah. If it's ruined, I'll get an Emonda SL6, which are on sale right now.

I went on a ride today on my Roubaix, which is a pig in comparison. My long-time riding buddy throttled me coming home up the cemetery hill at the end of a spin through the countryside in high heat. Yes, Portland can get hot -- 98 today, 102 tomorrow.

-- Jay Beattie.

... Yes, Portland can get hot -- 98 today, 102 tomorrow.

Oh wow I did not know that

On 6/26/2017 8:50 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
... Yes, Portland can get hot -- 98 today, 102 tomorrow.

Oh wow I did not know that

I'm in Northeast Ohio. My kid lived in Portland for years.

Back then, I looked up climate data and found the two areas seemed
rather similar in overall annual averages. But in practice, summer and
winter are very different there.

One big difference seems to be this: when NE Ohio gets summer heat, it
comes up from the Gulf of Mexico and is soaked with humidity. 90
Fahrenheit can feel like 100. But when Portland gets summer heat, it
comes up from near-desert areas. The humidity is much lower.

Example: This Friday, both Jay's area and my area are predicted to have
a high temperature of 83 degrees in the afternoon. But Jay's humidity
is predicted to be 38% with a dew point of 55 Fahrenheit. Our humidity
is predicted to be 59% with a dew point of 67.

Dew points anywhere above 60 feel muggy. 67 will feel like a swamp.
Sweat won't evaporate, and a one mile ride to the local beer store will
have me literally dripping.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/26/2017 8:50 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
... Yes, Portland can get hot -- 98 today, 102 tomorrow.

Oh wow I did not know that

I'm in Northeast Ohio. My kid lived in Portland for years.

Back then, I looked up climate data and found the two areas seemed
rather similar in overall annual averages. But in practice, summer and
winter are very different there.

One big difference seems to be this: when NE Ohio gets summer heat, it
comes up from the Gulf of Mexico and is soaked with humidity. 90
Fahrenheit can feel like 100. But when Portland gets summer heat, it
comes up from near-desert areas. The humidity is much lower.

Example: This Friday, both Jay's area and my area are predicted to have
a high temperature of 83 degrees in the afternoon. But Jay's humidity
is predicted to be 38% with a dew point of 55 Fahrenheit. Our humidity
is predicted to be 59% with a dew point of 67.

Dew points anywhere above 60 feel muggy. 67 will feel like a swamp.
Sweat won't evaporate, and a one mile ride to the local beer store will
have me literally dripping.

Errrr - Frank - I think that Doug is talking about Portland, OR. After a really wet and cold winter we're having a rather warm June. July bodes cooler than normal.

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/26/2017 8:50 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
... Yes, Portland can get hot -- 98 today, 102 tomorrow.

Oh wow I did not know that

I'm in Northeast Ohio. My kid lived in Portland for years.

Back then, I looked up climate data and found the two areas seemed
rather similar in overall annual averages. But in practice, summer and
winter are very different there.

One big difference seems to be this: when NE Ohio gets summer heat, it
comes up from the Gulf of Mexico and is soaked with humidity. 90
Fahrenheit can feel like 100. But when Portland gets summer heat, it
comes up from near-desert areas. The humidity is much lower.

Example: This Friday, both Jay's area and my area are predicted to have
a high temperature of 83 degrees in the afternoon. But Jay's humidity
is predicted to be 38% with a dew point of 55 Fahrenheit. Our humidity
is predicted to be 59% with a dew point of 67.

Dew points anywhere above 60 feel muggy. 67 will feel like a swamp.
Sweat won't evaporate, and a one mile ride to the local beer store will
have me literally dripping.

It typically isn't that muggy, but it can be on rare occasion, but not like the Midwest or anywhere east of the Rockies. No cicadas or fireflies either. No mid-afternoon summer squalls and lightning storms, although we had some brief rain and lightning yesterday -- which was a nice respite from the heat.
It goes to show you how wimpy I am when, after a two day heat wave, I'm happy to get a little rain.

Where Doug lives is perfect weather and riding, and it smells good, too. I miss the smell of bay and eucalyptus. Fir forests smell so bland.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/26/2017 8:50 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
... Yes, Portland can get hot -- 98 today, 102 tomorrow.

Oh wow I did not know that

I'm in Northeast Ohio. My kid lived in Portland for years.

Back then, I looked up climate data and found the two areas seemed
rather similar in overall annual averages. But in practice, summer and
winter are very different there.

One big difference seems to be this: when NE Ohio gets summer heat, it
comes up from the Gulf of Mexico and is soaked with humidity. 90
Fahrenheit can feel like 100. But when Portland gets summer heat, it
comes up from near-desert areas. The humidity is much lower.

So it's the same thing that goes on in SF - the air over the interior usually heats n rises allowing ocean air to come in, but on the very hottest days it not only rises but pushes outwards over the ocean, too

I've never been to portland. I've ridden down the coast. When it's 100 in portland is it also 100 in Astoria, Seaside?

On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 9:19:15 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote:
On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/26/2017 8:50 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
... Yes, Portland can get hot -- 98 today, 102 tomorrow.

Oh wow I did not know that

I'm in Northeast Ohio. My kid lived in Portland for years.

Back then, I looked up climate data and found the two areas seemed
rather similar in overall annual averages. But in practice, summer and
winter are very different there.

One big difference seems to be this: when NE Ohio gets summer heat, it
comes up from the Gulf of Mexico and is soaked with humidity. 90
Fahrenheit can feel like 100. But when Portland gets summer heat, it
comes up from near-desert areas. The humidity is much lower.

So it's the same thing that goes on in SF - the air over the interior usually heats n rises allowing ocean air to come in, but on the very hottest days it not only rises but pushes outwards over the ocean, too

I've never been to portland. I've ridden down the coast. When it's 100 in portland is it also 100 in Astoria, Seaside?

When it gets hot in the valley the wind blows like hell. Sunday the wind was so strong that on a 4% downgrade I couldn't get over 14/15 mph.

I think I am recovering from a bad start to the year and am beginning to get some riding strength back.

We know that anyone that rides a CF bike is more interested in saving a couple of lbs rather than his own safety
but then that is a problem that will solve itself.

Of course you are completely right. Nobody ever broke a non-CF bike
while "just riding along"...


Hmm, wait, the only time I ever had a bike break while riding it was
a steel bike with steel fork.

But that doesn't fit into your view of the world...

On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:56:25 PM UTC-7, Claus Aßmann wrote:
We know that anyone that rides a CF bike is more interested in saving a couple of lbs rather than his own safety
but then that is a problem that will solve itself.

Of course you are completely right. Nobody ever broke a non-CF bike
while "just riding along"...


Hmm, wait, the only time I ever had a bike break while riding it was
a steel bike with steel fork.

But that doesn't fit into your view of the world...

With details like that who could doubt you? Must have been your Saronni with Columbus MAX tubing. Those forks are breaking every day.