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Old October 20th 17, 05:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?


No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
measured it about 2 years ago in rehab. That's at the low end of the
scale, so I guess it could be called mini. I forgot what I measured
for the left hand, but it was less.
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm

Don't remind me of rehab. I have to go to an orthopedic surgeon tuesday for a growing pain in my shoulder. Hopefully he can read MRI's better than me because I don't see anything suspicious on the pictures.
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On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 7:53:57 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/19/2017 8:23 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/19/2017 7:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?

No.Â* I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
measured it about 2 years ago in rehab.Â* That's at the low end of the
scale, so I guess it could be called mini.Â* I forgot what I measured
for the left hand, but it was less.
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm


1. Stop using whatever drugs Tom gave you.
2. In most instances, 85lb is not 66kilos
3. 66kg is off the charts strong, according to your chart.


For a long time, I occasionally tested my two-handed grip strength using
a bathroom scale. I was able to squeeze the value of my weight.

And one year, our university's exercise science faculty gave free
physical fitness tests for faculty. Rather than take the time to have us
lift weights, etc. they simply measured grip strength, which they said
tends to closely correlate with overall strength. Mine was very good,
they said. However, I was in the habit of carrying a heavy briefcase
home to grade papers or prepare lectures, so I suspected I might have
been an outlier.

Many years after that, I decided to have fun in one of my classes; I
gave them some bicycle related problems. One was to analyze the bending
strength of a middle quality bike brake lever, and compare it to the
average grip strength of the students in the class, which we measured
using the exercise science department's meter.

The lever was surprisingly weak, and we proved it by letting the
football player in the class squeeze it and bend it. I was pointing out
that it didn't need to withstand maximum grip strength, because the bike
would skid the rear wheel or topple over the front wheel long before
that point.

But I confess, by that time my elderly grip strength measured below any
male in the class.


Frank - did you WORK as a mechanical engineer or teach it? This isn't meant to be by any means insulting. But you make comments that I have never seen jibe with real world events and teachers often tend to be shielded from real problems in engineering.
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On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs


One can only imagine what that is supposed to mean.......
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Old October 20th 17, 05:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:02:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?


No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
measured it about 2 years ago in rehab. That's at the low end of the
scale, so I guess it could be called mini. I forgot what I measured
for the left hand, but it was less.
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm


Don't remind me of rehab.


I had to do rehab after the body mechanics installed 2 stents in the
plumbing to my heart. Under Medicare, I only had to pay 20% of the
inflated charges, so it seemed like a good idea. However, at 2-3
times per week, plus a few some night time lectures, plus some lost
working time, it became rather expensive. It was well worth the
effort as it accelerated my recovery. I'm not an athlete by any
stretch of the imagination and need inspiration (or coercion) to get
adequate exercise. After about 9 weeks of rehab, I was in much better
shape than I had been for years. After rehab, I immediately reverted
to a couch potato. Hopefully, you'll do better.

I have to go to an orthopedic surgeon tuesday for a growing
pain in my shoulder.


Bummer. I hope it goes well for you.

The problem with going to a surgeon for a diagnosis, is that the
diagnosis will always be something within his area of expertise. If
you went to a sports medicine doctor, the solution would be more or
different exercises. If you went to a chiropractor, it would be bone
cracking. If you went to a drug dealer, the answer would be pain
killers.

Hopefully he can read MRI's better than me because I don't
see anything suspicious on the pictures.


I believe that he can, because he has one advantage over your
abilities. He has seen a large number of similar MRI's and therefore
has a baseline to compare your images against what might be called
"normal". The MRI image settings are carefully standardized to always
use the same settings and exposures, so that such comparisons are
possible, which would not be the case if image enhancement were used.
However, that doesn't stop you from playing with image enhancement
software if you have a digital image (which you can get from the
radiology office).

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Old October 20th 17, 06:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 10/20/2017 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 7:53:57 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/19/2017 8:23 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/19/2017 7:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?

No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
measured it about 2 years ago in rehab. That's at the low end of the
scale, so I guess it could be called mini. I forgot what I measured
for the left hand, but it was less.
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm


1. Stop using whatever drugs Tom gave you.
2. In most instances, 85lb is not 66kilos
3. 66kg is off the charts strong, according to your chart.


For a long time, I occasionally tested my two-handed grip strength using
a bathroom scale. I was able to squeeze the value of my weight.

And one year, our university's exercise science faculty gave free
physical fitness tests for faculty. Rather than take the time to have us
lift weights, etc. they simply measured grip strength, which they said
tends to closely correlate with overall strength. Mine was very good,
they said. However, I was in the habit of carrying a heavy briefcase
home to grade papers or prepare lectures, so I suspected I might have
been an outlier.

Many years after that, I decided to have fun in one of my classes; I
gave them some bicycle related problems. One was to analyze the bending
strength of a middle quality bike brake lever, and compare it to the
average grip strength of the students in the class, which we measured
using the exercise science department's meter.

The lever was surprisingly weak, and we proved it by letting the
football player in the class squeeze it and bend it. I was pointing out
that it didn't need to withstand maximum grip strength, because the bike
would skid the rear wheel or topple over the front wheel long before
that point.

But I confess, by that time my elderly grip strength measured below any
male in the class.


Frank - did you WORK as a mechanical engineer or teach it? This isn't meant to be by any means insulting. But you make comments that I have never seen jibe with real world events and teachers often tend to be shielded from real problems in engineering.


"teachers often tend to be shielded from real problems in

engineering."

Well, duh, of course. That's not on the exam.


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