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Why People Mountain Bike: "the adventure of the ride is what gets my juices flowing"



 
 
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Old May 28th 06, 11:21 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike
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Default Why People Mountain Bike: "the adventure of the ride is what gets my juices flowing"


S Curtiss Wrote:

**Your reply here completely ignores the foundation you set above. You
say
in response to thousands of miles of added roads "This is a defeat for
all
of humanity, including you." yet state here "Wilderness is sacred
because
there is so little of it left." Yet you are going to whine like a
child
because somewhere on a trail there is a guy on a bicycle. It has
already
been established "Wilderness" designations do not allow bicycles. Why
do you
and Vandeman insist on arguing on something that is already
established? Why
do you insist on creating further friction between different user types
when
cooperation should be the largest concern to protect as much area as
possible. The more development there is, the less fringe land there is
for
recreation which leads to less "wilderness" down the road. If you want
to
throw some sort religious connotation into the motives or results of
purpose
for venturing into any natural area, that is fine. However, this
country is
based on freedom of religion, not freedom FROM religion. You can visit
your
"cathedral" your way as I can in my way. You have "wilderness" and
many
other areas either unsuitable for, or designated by law, to be
non-accessible for bicycles. You have the recourse of law to call
rangers or
other authorities and report tresspass. So why this constant reference
to
keeping bikes out of "wilderness" when that is already established? If
you
want to maintain as much "wilderness" as possible, I would suggest
allowing
access to as much non-wilderness as possible. I would suggest some
plain
language and consistency in land designation. I would suggest getting
as
many "recreationists" into non-wilderness as possible to lend numbers
to the
decreasing voice of preservation. The more people to see land and
forests
for something beyond a new mall or house or hotel means more people to
stand
against the development.
Either we share what we have, or we lose it all.



That is one of the best posts that I have ever seen on here.

I find your comparisons between religious groups and pressure groups to
be an interesting one because it is so obvious it is easy to miss. MV
and ED can be readily compared to religious fanatics who shout long and
hard about how their way is the right way but do little to make things
better for anyone and simply causes friction and spread mistrust
between different factions of society. I dread to think how many
cyclists have a negative attitude towards hikers with an "all hikers
are fanatical arseholes so f**k you!" attitude that has been developed
from the perceptions driven by MV, rather than absed on actual positive
experiences.

MV has not based his science on anything officially recognised and his
acusations that everything that goes against his "facts" is controlled
by a mountainbikers conspiracy is bizarre to say the very least.
Surprisingly, underneath all the crap and the egomania and the
accusations I think Vandeman makes a reasonably valid point to the
extent that wilderness should be protected. This I agree with, however
you also have to permit recreation away from developed urban areas. The
solution is surely to ringfence and restrict all human activity within
areas that are particularly sensitive (please don;t tell me that all
areas are sensitive because this is not correct) to the effects of
human activity and promote tolerance and mutual respect elsewhere such
that the same space can be used by people with differing interests with
minimal conflict.

I would hope that MV would read this and think about his methods and
his extremism, but deep down I know that it won't happen. I will
continue to ride, but as always it will be in a responsible manner
defined by my own moral code, the same moral code and responsible
manner that I exercise whilst walking down the street, or when I am at
work or even when I am hiking, times when you wouldn't even realise
that I am a mountainbiking nut unless you started talking to me about
bikes.


--
davebee

 




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