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Power on hills.
On 24/12/18 8:15 pm, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:48:09 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 12/23/2018 7:42 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Most trades or industries have their own esoteric language. Irrigation is often described in acre-feet, horses race over furlongs, bicyclists describe their power output in something other then the traditional "horse power" :-) In calculating how many head of stock you can feed from an area of land, a common measure is "dry sheep equivalent" or DSE. A ewe that is not producing milk is a dry sheep. 10 DSE per cow is the stocking rate for cows. We can support about 1 cow per hectare, or 10 DSE per hectare. You left out gear inches. Yes I did. I reckoned it might be a little complicated what with the 50 inch high wheelers and the 26 inch "low wheeler"mountain bikes, etc. Although the high wheelers were pretty easy to calculate :-) What about "gauge" as in 8, 10 & 12 gauge? Being the number of spheres of lead with a particular bore diameter that weigh a pound. -- JS |
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James wrote:
On 24/12/18 8:15 pm, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:48:09 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 12/23/2018 7:42 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Most trades or industries have their own esoteric language. Irrigation is often described in acre-feet, horses race over furlongs, bicyclists describe their power output in something other then the traditional "horse power" :-) In calculating how many head of stock you can feed from an area of land, a common measure is "dry sheep equivalent" or DSE. A ewe that is not producing milk is a dry sheep. 10 DSE per cow is the stocking rate for cows. We can support about 1 cow per hectare, or 10 DSE per hectare. You left out gear inches. Yes I did. I reckoned it might be a little complicated what with the 50 inch high wheelers and the 26 inch "low wheeler"mountain bikes, etc. Although the high wheelers were pretty easy to calculate :-) What about "gauge" as in 8, 10 & 12 gauge? Being the number of spheres of lead with a particular bore diameter that weigh a pound. "Gauge" annoys me because it just refers you to some other arbitrary thing. Put a 12 gauge shotgun shell, a length of 12 gauge copper wire and piece of 12 gauge sheet aluminum side by side and play "what do these things have in common?" |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 11:48:38 +1100, James
wrote: On 24/12/18 8:15 pm, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:48:09 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 12/23/2018 7:42 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Most trades or industries have their own esoteric language. Irrigation is often described in acre-feet, horses race over furlongs, bicyclists describe their power output in something other then the traditional "horse power" :-) In calculating how many head of stock you can feed from an area of land, a common measure is "dry sheep equivalent" or DSE. A ewe that is not producing milk is a dry sheep. 10 DSE per cow is the stocking rate for cows. We can support about 1 cow per hectare, or 10 DSE per hectare. You left out gear inches. Yes I did. I reckoned it might be a little complicated what with the 50 inch high wheelers and the 26 inch "low wheeler"mountain bikes, etc. Although the high wheelers were pretty easy to calculate :-) What about "gauge" as in 8, 10 & 12 gauge? Being the number of spheres of lead with a particular bore diameter that weigh a pound. Except in Cannon where it is the weight of a bore size spherical iron projectile (4.6" bore) And, of course, in railroads, gauge is measured in feet and inches or that funny French measuring system :-) cheers, John B. |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 02:16:08 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote: James wrote: On 24/12/18 8:15 pm, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:48:09 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 12/23/2018 7:42 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Most trades or industries have their own esoteric language. Irrigation is often described in acre-feet, horses race over furlongs, bicyclists describe their power output in something other then the traditional "horse power" :-) In calculating how many head of stock you can feed from an area of land, a common measure is "dry sheep equivalent" or DSE. A ewe that is not producing milk is a dry sheep. 10 DSE per cow is the stocking rate for cows. We can support about 1 cow per hectare, or 10 DSE per hectare. You left out gear inches. Yes I did. I reckoned it might be a little complicated what with the 50 inch high wheelers and the 26 inch "low wheeler"mountain bikes, etc. Although the high wheelers were pretty easy to calculate :-) What about "gauge" as in 8, 10 & 12 gauge? Being the number of spheres of lead with a particular bore diameter that weigh a pound. "Gauge" annoys me because it just refers you to some other arbitrary thing. Put a 12 gauge shotgun shell, a length of 12 gauge copper wire and piece of 12 gauge sheet aluminum side by side and play "what do these things have in common?" :-) A "gauge" isn't something it is a term for measuring against some standard, or another, weight of a lead ball, diameter of a wire or thickness of a sheet . In plastering a wall one "gauges" the plaster by mixing specific quantities :-) cheers, John B. |
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John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 02:16:08 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone wrote: James wrote: On 24/12/18 8:15 pm, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:48:09 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 12/23/2018 7:42 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Most trades or industries have their own esoteric language. Irrigation is often described in acre-feet, horses race over furlongs, bicyclists describe their power output in something other then the traditional "horse power" :-) In calculating how many head of stock you can feed from an area of land, a common measure is "dry sheep equivalent" or DSE. A ewe that is not producing milk is a dry sheep. 10 DSE per cow is the stocking rate for cows. We can support about 1 cow per hectare, or 10 DSE per hectare. You left out gear inches. Yes I did. I reckoned it might be a little complicated what with the 50 inch high wheelers and the 26 inch "low wheeler"mountain bikes, etc. Although the high wheelers were pretty easy to calculate :-) What about "gauge" as in 8, 10 & 12 gauge? Being the number of spheres of lead with a particular bore diameter that weigh a pound. "Gauge" annoys me because it just refers you to some other arbitrary thing. Put a 12 gauge shotgun shell, a length of 12 gauge copper wire and piece of 12 gauge sheet aluminum side by side and play "what do these things have in common?" :-) A "gauge" isn't something it is a term for measuring against some standard, or another, weight of a lead ball, diameter of a wire or thickness of a sheet . In plastering a wall one "gauges" the plaster by mixing specific quantities :-) cheers, John B. My point exactly. |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 03:27:54 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote: John B. Slocomb wrote: On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 02:16:08 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone wrote: James wrote: On 24/12/18 8:15 pm, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:48:09 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 12/23/2018 7:42 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Most trades or industries have their own esoteric language. Irrigation is often described in acre-feet, horses race over furlongs, bicyclists describe their power output in something other then the traditional "horse power" :-) In calculating how many head of stock you can feed from an area of land, a common measure is "dry sheep equivalent" or DSE. A ewe that is not producing milk is a dry sheep. 10 DSE per cow is the stocking rate for cows. We can support about 1 cow per hectare, or 10 DSE per hectare. You left out gear inches. Yes I did. I reckoned it might be a little complicated what with the 50 inch high wheelers and the 26 inch "low wheeler"mountain bikes, etc. Although the high wheelers were pretty easy to calculate :-) What about "gauge" as in 8, 10 & 12 gauge? Being the number of spheres of lead with a particular bore diameter that weigh a pound. "Gauge" annoys me because it just refers you to some other arbitrary thing. Put a 12 gauge shotgun shell, a length of 12 gauge copper wire and piece of 12 gauge sheet aluminum side by side and play "what do these things have in common?" :-) A "gauge" isn't something it is a term for measuring against some standard, or another, weight of a lead ball, diameter of a wire or thickness of a sheet . In plastering a wall one "gauges" the plaster by mixing specific quantities :-) cheers, John B. My point exactly. Well, one could refer to sheet metal in inches or mm. The Air Force did when referring to sheet aluminum used on aircraft. Wire is measured in mm here and the British refer to a "12 bore" gun and the French say "un fusil de calibre 12". cheers, John B. |
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On Monday, December 24, 2018 at 10:36:01 PM UTC-5, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 03:27:54 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone wrote: John B. Slocomb wrote: On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 02:16:08 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone wrote: James wrote: On 24/12/18 8:15 pm, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:48:09 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 12/23/2018 7:42 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Most trades or industries have their own esoteric language. Irrigation is often described in acre-feet, horses race over furlongs, bicyclists describe their power output in something other then the traditional "horse power" :-) In calculating how many head of stock you can feed from an area of land, a common measure is "dry sheep equivalent" or DSE. A ewe that is not producing milk is a dry sheep. 10 DSE per cow is the stocking rate for cows. We can support about 1 cow per hectare, or 10 DSE per hectare. You left out gear inches. Yes I did. I reckoned it might be a little complicated what with the 50 inch high wheelers and the 26 inch "low wheeler"mountain bikes, etc. Although the high wheelers were pretty easy to calculate :-) What about "gauge" as in 8, 10 & 12 gauge? Being the number of spheres of lead with a particular bore diameter that weigh a pound. "Gauge" annoys me because it just refers you to some other arbitrary thing. Put a 12 gauge shotgun shell, a length of 12 gauge copper wire and piece of 12 gauge sheet aluminum side by side and play "what do these things have in common?" :-) A "gauge" isn't something it is a term for measuring against some standard, or another, weight of a lead ball, diameter of a wire or thickness of a sheet . In plastering a wall one "gauges" the plaster by mixing specific quantities :-) cheers, John B. My point exactly. Well, one could refer to sheet metal in inches or mm. The Air Force did when referring to sheet aluminum used on aircraft. Wire is measured in mm here and the British refer to a "12 bore" gun and the French say "un fusil de calibre 12". I suppose we could also discuss the "system" used for women's clothing sizes, at least in the U.S. My wife wears a size 7... but seven _what_? And it turns out, one company's size 7 is not the same as another company's size 7. I've heard that the pricier brands make their size 7s a bit larger so some women can feel proud that they fit into a smaller size than usual. - Frank Krygowski |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 07:12:14 -0800 (PST), Frank Krygowski
wrote: I suppose we could also discuss the "system" used for women's clothing sizes, at least in the U.S. My wife wears a size 7... but seven _what_? And it turns out, one company's size 7 is not the same as another company's size 7. I've heard that the pricier brands make their size 7s a bit larger so some women can feel proud that they fit into a smaller size than usual. That's the way it works. Higher priced women's clothes tend to be larger than the same clothes sold by a department stores. However, it's not only because of the psychology involved in being thin and slim. It's because higher end clothing is usually fitted or altered to the buyers exact size by a seamstress. Making it a bit large allows the seamstress some leeway in order to deal with odd body shapes and sizes. However, this is a minor concern as anyone buying clothes off the rack that is destined to be fitted or altered is instructed to buy a loose fit or at least one size larger. My contribution to the confusion is the "Helen" as a unit of feminine beauty. It is said that Helen of Troy had a face which launched a thousand ships. Therefore, one milli-Helen can launch one ship. It also works in the negative, where minus one milli-Helen will sink one ship. List of unusual units of measurement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement List of humorous units of measurement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humorous_units_of_measurement -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 12/25/2018 10:50 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 07:12:14 -0800 (PST), Frank Krygowski wrote: I suppose we could also discuss the "system" used for women's clothing sizes, at least in the U.S. My wife wears a size 7... but seven _what_? And it turns out, one company's size 7 is not the same as another company's size 7. I've heard that the pricier brands make their size 7s a bit larger so some women can feel proud that they fit into a smaller size than usual. That's the way it works. Higher priced women's clothes tend to be larger than the same clothes sold by a department stores. However, it's not only because of the psychology involved in being thin and slim. It's because higher end clothing is usually fitted or altered to the buyers exact size by a seamstress. Making it a bit large allows the seamstress some leeway in order to deal with odd body shapes and sizes. However, this is a minor concern as anyone buying clothes off the rack that is destined to be fitted or altered is instructed to buy a loose fit or at least one size larger. My contribution to the confusion is the "Helen" as a unit of feminine beauty. It is said that Helen of Troy had a face which launched a thousand ships. Therefore, one milli-Helen can launch one ship. It also works in the negative, where minus one milli-Helen will sink one ship. List of unusual units of measurement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement List of humorous units of measurement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humorous_units_of_measurement "minus one milli-Helen will sink one ship." I think I dated her sister -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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