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No signs the 32-630 (27x1-1/4) tire is making a comeback? LOL. No, but a 27.5" tire is only a little bigger. These tires are virtually identical in applied height - using a folding ruler, and leaving the wheels mounted on the bike, both are about 27-1/2" or 70cm. This is one example where the English system is handy, and the ISO can be confusing. ISO / ETRTO England France -------------------------------------------------------------- 56-584 27.5 x 2.20 650x56B wide MTB 27.5 32-630 27 x 1-1/4 old RB -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On 2018-09-21 08:47, sms wrote:
Headed up there yesterday, for the day. It's now in Reno, so from the Bay Area it's easier to drive than fly. The show has shrunk considerably from its heyday. But they had a bike that would probably be Jorge-Approved, and a light that might be Frank-Approved, though those are very high bars. Grant Peterson had several Jay-compatible models on display in the Rivendell booth, but he didn't have an aluminum model with a carbon-fiber fork, and disc brakes. Rather than post the report here, I put it up on Google Docs, including photos. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wAiw__UK7KkYw1CO2lbSIdy14p0LXdH8RpnVqneDv5k Thanks. The growler bike looks classic but I don't plan on using E-bikes until I am 85 or so. Is the bottom left picture on page 1 depicting a whiskey flask? The kind that John Wayne would throw his horse riding buddy before a gun fight? That would make a bike ride quite interesting. "No free beer" is ok as long as they sell good microbrew at reasonable prices. Though the show would probably not be too interesting for me because all this stuff trends too much in the direction of E-bikes. I prefer muscle power. As for the "ultimate new edible" I have yet to see any bike-specific fare that I wouldn't want to spit out into the sand. I even gave up on regular nut bars except for rides under 20mi. Too much sugar. Over 20mi I carry home-baked bread with generous layers of cheese and sausage. The real bread, of course, with the starter dough made from beer fermentation residue (trub), bread dough kneaded using an electric power drill and baked outdoors over manzanita fire. For electrolyte I use simple Emergen-C powder. $10 makes dozens of bottles. Since it tastes a bit medicinal we add freshly squished lemon juice. Which is a byproduct in our household because my wife makes her own Limoncello and the peeled lemons are sort of left over. Nothing goes to waste here. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Thanks. Thanks for the report sms. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On 9/24/2018 2:12 PM, Joerg wrote:
snip For electrolyte I use simple Emergen-C powder. $10 makes dozens of bottles. Since it tastes a bit medicinal we add freshly squished lemon juice. Which is a byproduct in our household because my wife makes her own Limoncello and the peeled lemons are sort of left over. Nothing goes to waste here. The tablets are kind of like the old Fizzies. When my wife did a trek up Machu Picchu a couple of months ago they encourage the participants to use electrolyte tablets or powder. Fizzies looks they carbonate better. But they are no longer available. |
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On 2018-09-26 08:04, sms wrote:
On 9/24/2018 2:12 PM, Joerg wrote: snip For electrolyte I use simple Emergen-C powder. $10 makes dozens of bottles. Since it tastes a bit medicinal we add freshly squished lemon juice. Which is a byproduct in our household because my wife makes her own Limoncello and the peeled lemons are sort of left over. Nothing goes to waste here. The tablets are kind of like the old Fizzies. When my wife did a trek up Machu Picchu a couple of months ago they encourage the participants to use electrolyte tablets or powder. Fizzies looks they carbonate better. But they are no longer available. Carbonation would be nice and the powder, of course, can't do that. It's ok, I only gulp that down because it has to be done or I'd get leg cramps, latest during the night after a long ride which is always real fun. Since using fresh lemon juice in it the taste is actually quite good and feels more refreshing. If I want something carbonated during a ride I take my old stainless steel office thermos, pre-chill it and then fill it with homebrew IPA, leaving 1" of head space so it won't explode. After several hours of trail riding ... POOF .. phssss ... and a nice cool brewsky comes out. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 2:12:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-21 08:47, sms wrote: Headed up there yesterday, for the day. It's now in Reno, so from the Bay Area it's easier to drive than fly. The show has shrunk considerably from its heyday. But they had a bike that would probably be Jorge-Approved, and a light that might be Frank-Approved, though those are very high bars. Grant Peterson had several Jay-compatible models on display in the Rivendell booth, but he didn't have an aluminum model with a carbon-fiber fork, and disc brakes. Rather than post the report here, I put it up on Google Docs, including photos. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wAiw__UK7KkYw1CO2lbSIdy14p0LXdH8RpnVqneDv5k Thanks. The growler bike looks classic but I don't plan on using E-bikes until I am 85 or so. Is the bottom left picture on page 1 depicting a whiskey flask? The kind that John Wayne would throw his horse riding buddy before a gun fight? That would make a bike ride quite interesting. "No free beer" is ok as long as they sell good microbrew at reasonable prices. Though the show would probably not be too interesting for me because all this stuff trends too much in the direction of E-bikes. I prefer muscle power. As for the "ultimate new edible" I have yet to see any bike-specific fare that I wouldn't want to spit out into the sand. I even gave up on regular nut bars except for rides under 20mi. Too much sugar. Over 20mi I carry home-baked bread with generous layers of cheese and sausage. The real bread, of course, with the starter dough made from beer fermentation residue (trub), bread dough kneaded using an electric power drill and baked outdoors over manzanita fire. For electrolyte I use simple Emergen-C powder. $10 makes dozens of bottles. Since it tastes a bit medicinal we add freshly squished lemon juice. Which is a byproduct in our household because my wife makes her own Limoncello and the peeled lemons are sort of left over. Nothing goes to waste here. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You know Joerg, you remind me of a good friend who is so set in his ways that he won't even bother to investigate anything new. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOi4czjB1No |
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On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 1:05:50 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-26 08:36, wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 2:12:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-21 08:47, sms wrote: Headed up there yesterday, for the day. It's now in Reno, so from the Bay Area it's easier to drive than fly. The show has shrunk considerably from its heyday. But they had a bike that would probably be Jorge-Approved, and a light that might be Frank-Approved, though those are very high bars. Grant Peterson had several Jay-compatible models on display in the Rivendell booth, but he didn't have an aluminum model with a carbon-fiber fork, and disc brakes. Rather than post the report here, I put it up on Google Docs, including photos. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wAiw__UK7KkYw1CO2lbSIdy14p0LXdH8RpnVqneDv5k Thanks. The growler bike looks classic but I don't plan on using E-bikes until I am 85 or so. Is the bottom left picture on page 1 depicting a whiskey flask? The kind that John Wayne would throw his horse riding buddy before a gun fight? That would make a bike ride quite interesting. "No free beer" is ok as long as they sell good microbrew at reasonable prices. Though the show would probably not be too interesting for me because all this stuff trends too much in the direction of E-bikes. I prefer muscle power. As for the "ultimate new edible" I have yet to see any bike-specific fare that I wouldn't want to spit out into the sand. I even gave up on regular nut bars except for rides under 20mi. Too much sugar. Over 20mi I carry home-baked bread with generous layers of cheese and sausage. The real bread, of course, with the starter dough made from beer fermentation residue (trub), bread dough kneaded using an electric power drill and baked outdoors over manzanita fire. For electrolyte I use simple Emergen-C powder. $10 makes dozens of bottles. Since it tastes a bit medicinal we add freshly squished lemon juice. Which is a byproduct in our household because my wife makes her own Limoncello and the peeled lemons are sort of left over. Nothing goes to waste here. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You know Joerg, you remind me of a good friend who is so set in his ways that he won't even bother to investigate anything new. I have investigated. Regarding food pretty much all the cyclist's stuff including "astronaut pouches" that my sister uses. Bleccchhhh. I've even gone away from the nut bars I used to like a lot. Tastes too sugary by now and I am just not a fan of anything sweet. I found that good old bread with cheese and cold cuts is way better on bike rides. What is "way better?" Way better in tying up your digestive tract with fat and protein? Taking sandwiches and beer on the Trail of Terror is perfectly fine, but if you're riding tempo on a road bike over hill and dell for hours, you'll want carbs. Bread cannot be digested quickly and is not a good source of on-bike carbs. It's great for picnic sandwiches, however -- if you like sandwiches. I'd prefer some fried chicken and watermelon -- which we know you can strap to your rack. Maybe some corn on the cob. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOi4czjB1No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFjqPoVc84 Seen too many other riders with tubeless who got stranded. Needless to say they didn't carry a spare tube. Once I even had to cram my 29" spare tube into someones 26" MTB. At least that got him home. That MTB video tells us nothing about the cause of the flat -- or if anything would have prevented the flat short of solid tires. The flat could have been caused by burping. Look how low he inflates the tire with his hand pump. OTOH, the video from Cycling Weekly covers about every flat producing hazard ordinarily encountered by a road cyclist -- nails, glasses, tacks. I think the tack experiment produced far more punctures than any roadie will see with goatheads, unless he or she goes overland through the brambles. I'm not running out to buy tubeless, but you cannot deny that the demonstration was impressive -- and a demonstration as opposed to dopes stranded on a trail somewhere who encountered unknown hazards and flatted a tubeless tire. You can flat any tire, including your tires with uber thick tubes and tire liners. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 2018-09-26 14:12, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 1:05:50 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-26 08:36, wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 2:12:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-21 08:47, sms wrote: Headed up there yesterday, for the day. It's now in Reno, so from the Bay Area it's easier to drive than fly. The show has shrunk considerably from its heyday. But they had a bike that would probably be Jorge-Approved, and a light that might be Frank-Approved, though those are very high bars. Grant Peterson had several Jay-compatible models on display in the Rivendell booth, but he didn't have an aluminum model with a carbon-fiber fork, and disc brakes. Rather than post the report here, I put it up on Google Docs, including photos. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wAiw__UK7KkYw1CO2lbSIdy14p0LXdH8RpnVqneDv5k Thanks. The growler bike looks classic but I don't plan on using E-bikes until I am 85 or so. Is the bottom left picture on page 1 depicting a whiskey flask? The kind that John Wayne would throw his horse riding buddy before a gun fight? That would make a bike ride quite interesting. "No free beer" is ok as long as they sell good microbrew at reasonable prices. Though the show would probably not be too interesting for me because all this stuff trends too much in the direction of E-bikes. I prefer muscle power. As for the "ultimate new edible" I have yet to see any bike-specific fare that I wouldn't want to spit out into the sand. I even gave up on regular nut bars except for rides under 20mi. Too much sugar. Over 20mi I carry home-baked bread with generous layers of cheese and sausage. The real bread, of course, with the starter dough made from beer fermentation residue (trub), bread dough kneaded using an electric power drill and baked outdoors over manzanita fire. For electrolyte I use simple Emergen-C powder. $10 makes dozens of bottles. Since it tastes a bit medicinal we add freshly squished lemon juice. Which is a byproduct in our household because my wife makes her own Limoncello and the peeled lemons are sort of left over. Nothing goes to waste here. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You know Joerg, you remind me of a good friend who is so set in his ways that he won't even bother to investigate anything new. I have investigated. Regarding food pretty much all the cyclist's stuff including "astronaut pouches" that my sister uses. Bleccchhhh. I've even gone away from the nut bars I used to like a lot. Tastes too sugary by now and I am just not a fan of anything sweet. I found that good old bread with cheese and cold cuts is way better on bike rides. What is "way better?" The taste, the taste. ... Way better in tying up your digestive tract with fat and protein? Taking sandwiches and beer on the Trail of Terror is perfectly fine, but if you're riding tempo on a road bike over hill and dell for hours, you'll want carbs. We do that regularly, either on road bikes or for hours on a trail. There is only one other rider who favors bread over the sugary stuff though (but only if it's our trub bread) and he eats it with nothing but almond butter. ... Bread cannot be digested quickly and is not a good source of on-bike carbs. It's great for picnic sandwiches, however -- if you like sandwiches. I'd prefer some fried chicken and watermelon -- which we know you can strap to your rack. Maybe some corn on the cob. Ok, I don't have Tour de France ambitions. I just found it gives me a feeling of not feeling hungry during the rest of the ride and the slow release of energy hasn't been an issue. I know that a dextrose bomb could give me Speedy Gonzales capabilities for a short time, it's just that I don't like sweet stuff. I carry a couple tablets through in case I come across a bike rider or hiker who has totally bonked (which has happened). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOi4czjB1No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFjqPoVc84 Seen too many other riders with tubeless who got stranded. Needless to say they didn't carry a spare tube. Once I even had to cram my 29" spare tube into someones 26" MTB. At least that got him home. That MTB video tells us nothing about the cause of the flat -- or if anything would have prevented the flat short of solid tires. The flat could have been caused by burping. Look how low he inflates the tire with his hand pump. Burping is the other problem with tubeless. Doesn't happen with tubes. OTOH, the video from Cycling Weekly covers about every flat producing hazard ordinarily encountered by a road cyclist -- nails, glasses, tacks. I think the tack experiment produced far more punctures than any roadie will see with goatheads, unless he or she goes overland through the brambles. Not quite. Goat's heads have longer thorns and they are also quite conical, making the hole much wider than a thumbtack can. According to Murphy's Law they are always positioned with the straight long thorn pointing up. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...idum_seeds.jpg I'm not running out to buy tubeless, but you cannot deny that the demonstration was impressive -- and a demonstration as opposed to dopes stranded on a trail somewhere who encountered unknown hazards and flatted a tubeless tire. You can flat any tire, including your tires with uber thick tubes and tire liners. It was impressive. Same when I watched similar youtube videos from the slime tube guys. I was impressed so I went out and bought some. Not cheap. In the end that was a mistake because it's just a matter of time until the slime can't handle it anymore. Of course, per Murphy's law my time was up almost at the farthest end on the trail. IMO there is nothing better than tire liner plus thick tubes. Except for even thicker tubes. Most people can't believe what I have under the MTB tires. Mr.Tuffy brown tire liners stuffed inside slit second "regular" tubes of good quality, then tubes with 0.160" or 4mm wall thickness. Flats in all those years: None. So I did that for the road bike as well which also dropped its number of flats to zero. Only thing is the chafing between the tire liner and the thick tube. I'll have to slide the liner into a thin tube first but it'll be diffiuclt to cram all that in. The other upside is that I can now ride tires down to their last sliver of tread. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 2:59:38 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-26 14:12, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 1:05:50 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-26 08:36, wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 2:12:40 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-21 08:47, sms wrote: Headed up there yesterday, for the day. It's now in Reno, so from the Bay Area it's easier to drive than fly. The show has shrunk considerably from its heyday. But they had a bike that would probably be Jorge-Approved, and a light that might be Frank-Approved, though those are very high bars. Grant Peterson had several Jay-compatible models on display in the Rivendell booth, but he didn't have an aluminum model with a carbon-fiber fork, and disc brakes. Rather than post the report here, I put it up on Google Docs, including photos. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wAiw__UK7KkYw1CO2lbSIdy14p0LXdH8RpnVqneDv5k Thanks. The growler bike looks classic but I don't plan on using E-bikes until I am 85 or so. Is the bottom left picture on page 1 depicting a whiskey flask? The kind that John Wayne would throw his horse riding buddy before a gun fight? That would make a bike ride quite interesting. "No free beer" is ok as long as they sell good microbrew at reasonable prices. Though the show would probably not be too interesting for me because all this stuff trends too much in the direction of E-bikes. I prefer muscle power. As for the "ultimate new edible" I have yet to see any bike-specific fare that I wouldn't want to spit out into the sand. I even gave up on regular nut bars except for rides under 20mi. Too much sugar. Over 20mi I carry home-baked bread with generous layers of cheese and sausage. The real bread, of course, with the starter dough made from beer fermentation residue (trub), bread dough kneaded using an electric power drill and baked outdoors over manzanita fire. For electrolyte I use simple Emergen-C powder. $10 makes dozens of bottles. Since it tastes a bit medicinal we add freshly squished lemon juice. Which is a byproduct in our household because my wife makes her own Limoncello and the peeled lemons are sort of left over. Nothing goes to waste here. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You know Joerg, you remind me of a good friend who is so set in his ways that he won't even bother to investigate anything new. I have investigated. Regarding food pretty much all the cyclist's stuff including "astronaut pouches" that my sister uses. Bleccchhhh. I've even gone away from the nut bars I used to like a lot. Tastes too sugary by now and I am just not a fan of anything sweet. I found that good old bread with cheese and cold cuts is way better on bike rides. What is "way better?" The taste, the taste. ... Way better in tying up your digestive tract with fat and protein? Taking sandwiches and beer on the Trail of Terror is perfectly fine, but if you're riding tempo on a road bike over hill and dell for hours, you'll want carbs. We do that regularly, either on road bikes or for hours on a trail. There is only one other rider who favors bread over the sugary stuff though (but only if it's our trub bread) and he eats it with nothing but almond butter. ... Bread cannot be digested quickly and is not a good source of on-bike carbs. It's great for picnic sandwiches, however -- if you like sandwiches. I'd prefer some fried chicken and watermelon -- which we know you can strap to your rack. Maybe some corn on the cob. Ok, I don't have Tour de France ambitions. I just found it gives me a feeling of not feeling hungry during the rest of the ride and the slow release of energy hasn't been an issue. I know that a dextrose bomb could give me Speedy Gonzales capabilities for a short time, it's just that I don't like sweet stuff. I carry a couple tablets through in case I come across a bike rider or hiker who has totally bonked (which has happened). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOi4czjB1No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFjqPoVc84 Seen too many other riders with tubeless who got stranded. Needless to say they didn't carry a spare tube. Once I even had to cram my 29" spare tube into someones 26" MTB. At least that got him home. That MTB video tells us nothing about the cause of the flat -- or if anything would have prevented the flat short of solid tires. The flat could have been caused by burping. Look how low he inflates the tire with his hand pump. Burping is the other problem with tubeless. Doesn't happen with tubes. OTOH, the video from Cycling Weekly covers about every flat producing hazard ordinarily encountered by a road cyclist -- nails, glasses, tacks. I think the tack experiment produced far more punctures than any roadie will see with goatheads, unless he or she goes overland through the brambles. Not quite. Goat's heads have longer thorns and they are also quite conical, making the hole much wider than a thumbtack can. According to Murphy's Law they are always positioned with the straight long thorn pointing up. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...idum_seeds.jpg I'm not running out to buy tubeless, but you cannot deny that the demonstration was impressive -- and a demonstration as opposed to dopes stranded on a trail somewhere who encountered unknown hazards and flatted a tubeless tire. You can flat any tire, including your tires with uber thick tubes and tire liners. It was impressive. Same when I watched similar youtube videos from the slime tube guys. I was impressed so I went out and bought some. Not cheap. In the end that was a mistake because it's just a matter of time until the slime can't handle it anymore. Of course, per Murphy's law my time was up almost at the farthest end on the trail. IMO there is nothing better than tire liner plus thick tubes. Except for even thicker tubes. Most people can't believe what I have under the MTB tires. Mr.Tuffy brown tire liners stuffed inside slit second "regular" tubes of good quality, then tubes with 0.160" or 4mm wall thickness. Flats in all those years: None. So I did that for the road bike as well which also dropped its number of flats to zero. Only thing is the chafing between the tire liner and the thick tube. I'll have to slide the liner into a thin tube first but it'll be diffiuclt to cram all that in. The other upside is that I can now ride tires down to their last sliver of tread. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I have found that stopping for a REAL sandwich is FAR FAR better than pretending to be a Tour rider and eating chemically treated body waste from a camel. I spend a half hour afterwards at a moderate pace and the longer in the ride it is the better I feel. I'm now returning home feeling better than when I left. Of course there are always those that believe that chemicals are much better than food. |
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