motorist mafia?

On Nov 29, 7:47*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 29/11/2010 09:02, Tony Raven wrote:

Derek C wrote:

Do you not understand the difference between a clearly marked cycle
path where cycling is permitted, and the general pavement where it
isn't?
Physically there is no difference apart from...

...the difference.

But you prefer to ignore that difference because you find doing so less
inconvenient.

Of course much the same applies to motorists who use pavements, which
makes me wonder why cyclists are being singled out here, especially as
they are much less dangerous than motorists.

someone has taken an otherwise
unremarkable bit of pavement and maybe slapped some white paint on it and/or
put up some blue signs. Apart from that its remains just a perfectly ordinary
bit of pavement.

So you do know the difference, and you do understand it. You thereby admit
that difference. No-one is really stupid enough not to be able to know the
difference.

It isn't stupidity which makes cyclists cycle along footways. It's
selfishness. You simply don't want to admit it.

No its an understandable fear of dangerous drivers on roads which
makes cyclists use pavements. Maybe that is why shared used paths are
sometimes provided for cyclists, to minimise that fear?

Of course, when motorists use pavements it is not done out of fear, it
is just plain selfishness.

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On 01/12/2010 16:43, Doug wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:47 pm, wrote:
On 29/11/2010 09:02, Tony Raven wrote:
Derek C wrote:

Do you not understand the difference between a clearly marked cycle
path where cycling is permitted, and the general pavement where it
isn't?

Physically there is no difference apart from...

...the difference.

But you prefer to ignore that difference because you find doing so less
inconvenient.

Of course much the same applies to motorists who use pavements, which
makes me wonder why cyclists are being singled out here, especially as
they are much less dangerous than motorists.

someone has taken an otherwise
unremarkable bit of pavement and maybe slapped some white paint on it and/or
put up some blue signs. Apart from that its remains just a perfectly ordinary
bit of pavement.

So you do know the difference, and you do understand it. You thereby admit
that difference. No-one is really stupid enough not to be able to know the
difference.

It isn't stupidity which makes cyclists cycle along footways. It's
selfishness. You simply don't want to admit it.

No its an understandable fear of dangerous drivers on roads which
makes cyclists use pavements. Maybe that is why shared used paths are
sometimes provided for cyclists, to minimise that fear?

Of course, when motorists use pavements it is not done out of fear, it
is just plain selfishness.

You are well aware that I disagree with much of what you say (not all of it,
just most of it), but I recognise and acknowledge that you are much more
honest on the topic of cycling on footways than many others who post here in
defence of selfish and aggressive footway cyclists.

Some other posters like to pretend:

(a) that no-one cycles along footways, or

(b) that there is so little of it that it isn't significant, or

(c) that pedestrians are not endangered by it, or

(d) that even if (a) to (c) don't apply, it's all the fault of local
authorities who "confuse" the poor footway cyclists and not the fault of the
cyclists, who they say are not clever enough to realise the correct position.

You, OTOH, are clear - and you admit - they they (the cyclists who cycle
along footways, putting pedestrians in danger) do it purely for their own
selfish reasons.

Doug wrote:
On Nov 29, 7:47 pm, JNugent wrote:
On 29/11/2010 09:02, Tony Raven wrote:

Derek C wrote:

Do you not understand the difference between a clearly marked cycle
path where cycling is permitted, and the general pavement where it
isn't?
Physically there is no difference apart from...

...the difference.

But you prefer to ignore that difference because you find doing so
less inconvenient.

Of course much the same applies to motorists who use pavements, which
makes me wonder why cyclists are being singled out here, especially as
they are much less dangerous than motorists.

someone has taken an otherwise
unremarkable bit of pavement and maybe slapped some white paint on
it and/or put up some blue signs. Apart from that its remains just
a perfectly ordinary bit of pavement.

So you do know the difference, and you do understand it. You thereby
admit that difference. No-one is really stupid enough not to be able
to know the difference.

It isn't stupidity which makes cyclists cycle along footways. It's
selfishness. You simply don't want to admit it.

No its an understandable fear of dangerous drivers on roads which
makes cyclists use pavements. Maybe that is why shared used paths are
sometimes provided for cyclists, to minimise that fear?

Of course, when motorists use pavements it is not done out of fear, it
is just plain selfishness.

if cyclists are truly frightened of cars then why don't they stop riding?

On 01/12/2010 18:38, Mrcheerful wrote:
Doug wrote:
On Nov 29, 7:47 pm, wrote:
On 29/11/2010 09:02, Tony Raven wrote:

Derek C wrote:

Do you not understand the difference between a clearly marked cycle
path where cycling is permitted, and the general pavement where it
isn't?
Physically there is no difference apart from...

...the difference.

But you prefer to ignore that difference because you find doing so
less inconvenient.

Of course much the same applies to motorists who use pavements, which
makes me wonder why cyclists are being singled out here, especially as
they are much less dangerous than motorists.

someone has taken an otherwise
unremarkable bit of pavement and maybe slapped some white paint on
it and/or put up some blue signs. Apart from that its remains just
a perfectly ordinary bit of pavement.

So you do know the difference, and you do understand it. You thereby
admit that difference. No-one is really stupid enough not to be able
to know the difference.

It isn't stupidity which makes cyclists cycle along footways. It's
selfishness. You simply don't want to admit it.

No its an understandable fear of dangerous drivers on roads which
makes cyclists use pavements. Maybe that is why shared used paths are
sometimes provided for cyclists, to minimise that fear?

Of course, when motorists use pavements it is not done out of fear, it
is just plain selfishness.

if cyclists are truly frightened of cars then why don't they stop riding?

Don't be silly.

Why do that when all they have to do is convert the imaginary risk on the
carriageway into a real risk (though only for pedestrians, who apparently
don't matter) - on the footway?