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Bicyclist Fatalities in AZ 2009
On Dec 10, 9:44*am, Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/10/2010 11:38 AM, DirtRoadie wrote: On Dec 9, 11:33 pm, Frank *wrote: On Dec 9, 1:28 pm, *wrote: I have some questions for Frank. As I understand, in a 10-foot wide lane (no shoulder), with an 8.5-foot wide truck behind you, you'd ride in the middle of the lane. *This would put you 5 feet from the right edge. Where would you ride if there was no vehicle behind you? What if instead of a big truck, it was a small car or a motorcycle behind you? First, if there is no vehicle behind me, my road position is determined by other things. You mean that *ALL the surrounding circumstances come into play? What a concept! That's a good point - the specifics of what's further right affect things. *A dropoff "ledge" at the pavement's edge will push me further left, too. Again, *ALL the surrounding circumstances come into play. What was so hard about acknowledging that in the first place Frank? Frank seemed to have great trouble with this concept when he first proposed his hypothetical. And he had to subsequently impose a curb and a sidewalk on all those who were pointing out that ALL the I think the sidewalk was installed exclusively for my benefit. That way he can tell me what a coward I am because I would jump on the sidewalk before being turned into ground meat. Don't you wish you could get governmental entities to respond so quickly with infrastructure? The sidewalk thing is interesting, especially with the "taking into account all surrounding circumstances" theme. There is a bridge here I ride across regularly where the sidewalk IS the simple way to stay out of traffic. The particular sidewalk section is also incorporated as a portion of a 7 mile riverfront all purpose trail. And (in contrast to the bridge JB described) it's wide enough for opposing bike/ pedestrian traffic to pass. I don't "bail out" onto the sidewalk, that's usually where I ride. Just a further example of how foolish Frank is with his tunnel vision and "control" obsession. DR |
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