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Old March 6th 09, 02:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Light of Aria[_2_]
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Default Shared cycle path - auditorially distracted pedestro-kretins stepping into the path of cycles


I am increasingly concerned / distressed / irritated by fools with
headphones on who meander along shared use cycle paths, whom upon
approaching, I sound the courtesy bells several times, and yet the
pedestrians do not acknowledge one's approach.

If one is proceeding along the green cycle lane, as designated, at
reasonable speed, sounds several courtesy warning bells, displays lighting,
reflective jackets, and white cycle helmets, what is the legal position
should the pedestrian suddenly veer from the pedestrian section into the
path of the cyclist without looking/shoulder checking/life-saver-ing?

Can the cyclist sue the pedestrian? Could the pedestrian sue the cyclist.

In my quasi-legal opinion, a cyclist exercising all the above cautions and
courtesies versus a yob who chooses to listen to his personal audio system
or jabber inanely on his PAYG phone and chooses not to look could just about
avoid a manslaughter charge, but I am quite worried what my 35 Kilos of Bike
plus 84 Kilos of me plus 10 Kilos of luggage at 20KPH would inflict on an
errant mutt-brained pedestrian.




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Old March 6th 09, 02:43 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
aigle_de_la_route
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Default Shared cycle path - auditorially distracted pedestro-kretins stepping into the path of cycles

In article ,
"Light of Aria" wrote:

I am quite worried what my 35 Kilos of Bike
plus 84 Kilos of me plus 10 Kilos of luggage at 20KPH would inflict on an
errant mutt-brained pedestrian.


No more than they deserve.

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Old March 6th 09, 03:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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aigle_de_la_route wrote, On 06/03/2009 13:43:
In article ,
"Light of Aria" wrote:

I am quite worried what my 35 Kilos of Bike
plus 84 Kilos of me plus 10 Kilos of luggage at 20KPH would inflict on an
errant mutt-brained pedestrian.


No more than they deserve.



What an asinine comment. When there are vulnerable and unpredictable
road users around, just bloody well slow down.

LN


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Old March 6th 09, 03:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Rob Morley
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Default Shared cycle path - auditorially distracted pedestro-kretinsstepping into the path of cycles

On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:51:51 +0000
lardyninja wrote:


aigle_de_la_route wrote, On 06/03/2009 13:43:
In article ,
"Light of Aria" wrote:

I am quite worried what my 35 Kilos of Bike
plus 84 Kilos of me plus 10 Kilos of luggage at 20KPH would
inflict on an errant mutt-brained pedestrian.


No more than they deserve.



What an asinine comment. When there are vulnerable and unpredictable
road users around, just bloody well slow down.

No, he's right. Car drivers should likewise knock off any cyclists who
get in their way, especially kids and grannies ...

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Old March 6th 09, 05:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Shared cycle path - auditorially distracted pedestro-kretins stepping into the path of cycles

In article 20090306145626.3e87ae77@bluemoon,
Rob Morley wrote:

On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:51:51 +0000
lardyninja wrote:


aigle_de_la_route wrote, On 06/03/2009 13:43:
In article ,
"Light of Aria" wrote:

I am quite worried what my 35 Kilos of Bike
plus 84 Kilos of me plus 10 Kilos of luggage at 20KPH would
inflict on an errant mutt-brained pedestrian.

No more than they deserve.



What an asinine comment. When there are vulnerable and unpredictable
road users around, just bloody well slow down.

No, he's right. Car drivers should likewise knock off any cyclists who
get in their way, especially kids and grannies ...


If I do something 'asinine' on my bicycle whilst mingling with vehicles
far heavier and more destructive than my body and a Surly, then don't
cry for me. Cos it'll be no more than I deserve. We tolerate ****ing
idiots too much already. The world is full of them, and the world is
overcrowed.

If I ride like a ****wit, then I'll get a ****wit's reward. That seems
only fair. How is it any different when some retard walks on a cycle
path (you know, the bit of the ground with big ****ing bicycle symbols
on it?) wearing a set of earplugs and caring only for his sorry arse and
his music?

WTF happened to taking responsibility for one's stupidity?

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Old March 6th 09, 09:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Adam Lea[_2_]
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aigle_de_la_route wrote:
In article 20090306145626.3e87ae77@bluemoon,
Rob Morley wrote:

On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:51:51 +0000
lardyninja wrote:


aigle_de_la_route wrote, On 06/03/2009 13:43:
In article ,
"Light of Aria" wrote:

I am quite worried what my 35 Kilos of Bike
plus 84 Kilos of me plus 10 Kilos of luggage at 20KPH would
inflict on an errant mutt-brained pedestrian.

No more than they deserve.



What an asinine comment. When there are vulnerable and unpredictable
road users around, just bloody well slow down.

No, he's right. Car drivers should likewise knock off any cyclists
who get in their way, especially kids and grannies ...


If I do something 'asinine' on my bicycle whilst mingling with
vehicles far heavier and more destructive than my body and a Surly,
then don't cry for me. Cos it'll be no more than I deserve. We
tolerate ****ing idiots too much already. The world is full of them,
and the world is overcrowed.

If I ride like a ****wit, then I'll get a ****wit's reward. That
seems only fair. How is it any different when some retard walks on a
cycle path (you know, the bit of the ground with big ****ing bicycle
symbols on it?) wearing a set of earplugs and caring only for his
sorry arse and his music?

WTF happened to taking responsibility for one's stupidity?


It could be argued that riding around expecting flawless behaviour from
everyone around you is riding like a ****wit.


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Old March 8th 09, 04:10 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Rob Morley
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:38:52 +0100
aigle_de_la_route wrote:

If I do something 'asinine' on my bicycle whilst mingling with
vehicles far heavier and more destructive than my body and a Surly,
then don't cry for me. Cos it'll be no more than I deserve. We
tolerate ****ing idiots too much already. The world is full of them,
and the world is overcrowed.

If I ride like a ****wit, then I'll get a ****wit's reward. That
seems only fair. How is it any different when some retard walks on a
cycle path (you know, the bit of the ground with big ****ing bicycle
symbols on it?) wearing a set of earplugs and caring only for his
sorry arse and his music?

Newsflash: the world is full of people whose intellectual and/or
emotional development leaves something to be desired. If you can't
accept and deal with that in a way that doesn't impact negatively on
you then you're probably not too smart yourself. While the species
that rather grandly refers to itself as Homo sapiens sapiens is
possibly doomed to destroy itself and take the planet with it, you have
a degree of control over the space inside your head, and some influence
on the small area around you - use it wisely or create your own little
bubble of unpleasantness. More easily said than done, of course -
having evolved as hunter-gatherers living in small groups our social
skills are woefully inadequate for the society in which we now live.
But it's only a small planet orbiting a small star in a universe of
millions of galaxies ...

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Old March 7th 09, 06:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mar 6, 2:51*pm, lardyninja wrote:
aigle_de_la_route wrote, On 06/03/2009 13:43:

In article ,
*"Light of Aria" wrote:


I am quite worried what my 35 Kilos of Bike
plus 84 Kilos of me plus 10 Kilos of luggage at 20KPH would inflict on an
errant mutt-brained pedestrian.


No more than they deserve.


What an asinine comment. When there are vulnerable and unpredictable
road users around, just bloody well slow down.


Yep, that's all you have to do. Just "slow down" (from some arbitrary
speed to some lesser arbitrary speed) and vulnerable road users are
magically protected from any type of error. Rejoice, everyone, road
safety is simplicity itself after all.
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Old March 6th 09, 04:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Paul Weaver
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Default Shared cycle path - auditorially distracted pedestro-kretinsstepping into the path of cycles

On 6 Mar, 13:21, "Light of Aria"
wrote:
In my quasi-legal opinion, a cyclist exercising all the above cautions and
courtesies versus a yob who chooses to listen to his personal audio system
or jabber inanely on his PAYG phone and chooses not to look could just about
avoid a manslaughter charge, but I am quite worried what my 35 Kilos of Bike
plus 84 Kilos of me plus 10 Kilos of luggage at 20KPH would inflict on an
errant mutt-brained pedestrian.


Too much damage. Stick to the road where you'll fit in with the
prevailing traffic, ignore the paint on the pavement.
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Old March 6th 09, 04:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Phil Armstrong
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Default Shared cycle path - auditorially distracted pedestro-kretins stepping into the path of cycles

Light of Aria wrote:

I am increasingly concerned / distressed / irritated by fools with
headphones on who meander along shared use cycle paths, whom upon
approaching, I sound the courtesy bells several times, and yet the
pedestrians do not acknowledge one's approach.


This sounds suspiciously like a piece of concern trolling to me.

Replace cyclist with car driver & pedestrian with cyclist in the OP's
rant. Does it still sound reasonable?

Shared use paths are just that: shared use. If you can't cope with a
pedestrian acting unpredictably then you're going too fast.

Phil

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