Two tires

Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the Panaracer
Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come in 27"
sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the occasional century,
on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both tires on my
bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the front. I'm happy with both but
trying to figure out, do I standardized and if so to what?

Thanks!

On Oct 17, 10:28*am, "OughtFour" wrote:
Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the Panaracer
Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come in 27"
sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the occasional century,
on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both tires on my
bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the front. I'm happy with both but
trying to figure out, do I standardized and if so to what?

I've used the 27" Zaffiro on a utility bike and found it to be a
marvelous tire for its price, quite durable, quiet, and a good ride.
Never a puncture. That said, the Paselas I like even more, cost about
the same, ride even nicer, and have a higher thread count so should in
theory have less rolling resistance.

Why standardize, anyway? Replace whichever tire wears out first, acts
naughtier and gets more punctures--or the one you find less handsome!

"landotter" wrote in message
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I've used the 27" Zaffiro on a utility bike and found it to be a
marvelous tire for its price, quite durable, quiet, and a good ride.
Never a puncture. That said, the Paselas I like even more, cost about
the same, ride even nicer, and have a higher thread count so should in
theory have less rolling resistance.

Me: Thanks!

Why standardize, anyway? Replace whichever tire wears out first, acts
naughtier and gets more punctures--or the one you find less handsome!

Me: Yes, but replace with what? (I'm leaning towards the Pana.) I'm not
going to retire a perfectly good one, but I like to have a spare on hand. So
my question is about which to get.

Thanks again!

In article ,
"OughtFour" wrote:

Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the Panaracer
Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come in 27"
sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the occasional century,
on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both tires on my
bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the front. I'm happy with both but
trying to figure out, do I standardized and if so to what?

No need to standardize. Less pattern in the tread is better.
When you say 27" you refer to ISO 630 mm?

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/index.html

--
Michael Press

Michael Press writes:

In article ,
"OughtFour" wrote:

Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the Panaracer
Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come in 27"
sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the occasional century,
on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both tires on my
bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the front. I'm happy with both but
trying to figure out, do I standardized and if so to what?

No need to standardize. Less pattern in the tread is better.
When you say 27" you refer to ISO 630 mm?

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/index.html

There appears to be a lot of nonsense about tyres on roads. Not all tyres
are equal. A road is not a smooth surface. Real cycling in streets often
means cycling over kerbs and other obstacles.

It appears to me to be absolutely ludicrous to say that a slick has the
same grip as a knobbly tyre for this.

I have fairly slick slicks on at times and I can tell you for a fact
that there is fare more tendency to slide in wet weather than when some
more pronounced "grip" tyres.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:51:35 +0200,
wrote:

Michael Press writes:

In article ,
"OughtFour" wrote:

Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the Panaracer
Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come in 27"
sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the occasional century,
on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both tires on my
bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the front. I'm happy with both but
trying to figure out, do I standardized and if so to what?

No need to standardize. Less pattern in the tread is better.
When you say 27" you refer to ISO 630 mm?

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/index.html

There appears to be a lot of nonsense about tyres on roads. Not all tyres
are equal. A road is not a smooth surface. Real cycling in streets often
means cycling over kerbs and other obstacles.

It appears to me to be absolutely ludicrous to say that a slick has the
same grip as a knobbly tyre for this.

I have fairly slick slicks on at times and I can tell you for a fact
that there is fare more tendency to slide in wet weather than when some
more pronounced "grip" tyres.

Dear Penny,

What sort of tire tread do the pros favor when the cobblestones are
wet and muddy between Paris and Roubaix?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

On Oct 17, 10:20*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:51:35 +0200,
wrote:



Michael Press writes:

In article ,
*"OughtFour" wrote:

Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the Panaracer
Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come in 27"
sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the occasional century,
on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both tires on my
bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the front. I'm happy with both but
trying to figure out, do I standardized and if so to what?

No need to standardize. Less pattern in the tread is better.
When you say 27" you refer to ISO 630 mm?

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/index.html

There appears to be a lot of nonsense about tyres on roads. Not all tyres
are equal. A road is not a smooth surface. Real cycling in streets often
means cycling over kerbs and other obstacles.

It appears to me to be absolutely ludicrous to say that a slick has the
same grip as a knobbly tyre for this.

I have fairly slick slicks on at times and I can tell you for a fact
that there is fare more tendency to slide in wet weather than when some
more pronounced "grip" tyres.

Dear Penny,

What sort of tire tread do the pros favor when the cobblestones are
wet and muddy between Paris and Roubaix?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Let me guess: big, fat, wide, mountain bike type tires with huge knobs
that will get in between the cobbles and provide lots and lots of
grip.

On Oct 17, 9:28*am, "OughtFour" wrote:
Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the Panaracer
Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come in 27"
sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the occasional century,
on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both tires on my
bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the front. I'm happy with both but
trying to figure out, do I standardized and if so to what?

Thanks!

We've had a little experience with both and found the Vittoria to have
more durable sidewalls. Really surprised how tear/cut prone the the
panaracers were. Have one left, will not buy any more.

On Oct 17, 11:36*pm, " wrote:
On Oct 17, 10:20*pm, wrote:



On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:51:35 +0200,
wrote:

Michael Press writes:

In article ,
*"OughtFour" wrote:

Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the Panaracer
Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come in 27"
sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the occasional century,
on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both tires on my
bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the front. I'm happy with both but
trying to figure out, do I standardized and if so to what?

No need to standardize. Less pattern in the tread is better.
When you say 27" you refer to ISO 630 mm?

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/index.html

There appears to be a lot of nonsense about tyres on roads. Not all tyres
are equal. A road is not a smooth surface. Real cycling in streets often
means cycling over kerbs and other obstacles.

It appears to me to be absolutely ludicrous to say that a slick has the
same grip as a knobbly tyre for this.

I have fairly slick slicks on at times and I can tell you for a fact
that there is fare more tendency to slide in wet weather than when some
more pronounced "grip" tyres.

Dear Penny,

What sort of tire tread do the pros favor when the cobblestones are
wet and muddy between Paris and Roubaix?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Let me guess: big, fat, wide, mountain bike type tires with huge knobs
that will get in between the cobbles and provide lots and lots of
grip.

That's ridiculous,think of the squirm! You want dual compound, like
these:

http://i34.tinypic.com/2chuaf4.jpg

Henny Penny wrote:

Could anyone compare & contrast the Vittoria Zaffiro versus the
Panaracer Pasella TG?

These are both wire beaded tires with Kevlar-like belts that come
in 27" sizes. I enjoy medium-length recreational rides, and the
occasional century, on roads of varying quality.

I should add that I have without any particular design put both
tires on my bike, the VZ on the rear and the Pana on the
front. I'm happy with both but trying to figure out, do I
standardized and if so to what?

No need to standardize. Less pattern in the tread is better. When
you say 27" you refer to ISO 630 mm?

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/index.html

There appears to be a lot of nonsense about tyres on roads. Not all
tyres are equal. A road is not a smooth surface. Real cycling in
streets often means cycling over kerbs and other obstacles.

It appears to me to be absolutely ludicrous to say that a slick has
the same grip as a knobbly tyre for this.

I have fairly slick slicks on at times and I can tell you for a fact
that there is fare more tendency to slide in wet weather than when
some more pronounced "grip" tyres.

If your tire cannot make an impression on the road (soft dirt) then
tread pattern has no benefit but mainly causes reduced traction. In
sand dunes no manner of tread pattern helps.

Jobst Brandt