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gds wrote:
And what good does knowing this do? I'm serious. I mean if you have fun keeping track of this that's fine with me. But what nutritional value does it add? Will you eat more to make up a "deficit" or eat less because you in "surplus"? Yes. If I burn more calories than usual on a given day, I'll eat more that evening. If it was a particularly long day (5000+ kcal), I'll even eat two dinners. I'll still eat the same amount during a ride, just to keep from bonking. I can't afford to lose any weight, so the calorie monitor keeps me from doing that. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/ |
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Terry Morse wrote in message ...
gds wrote: And what good does knowing this do? I'm serious. I mean if you have fun keeping track of this that's fine with me. But what nutritional value does it add? Will you eat more to make up a "deficit" or eat less because you in "surplus"? Yes. If I burn more calories than usual on a given day, I'll eat more that evening. If it was a particularly long day (5000+ kcal), I'll even eat two dinners. I'll still eat the same amount during a ride, just to keep from bonking. I can't afford to lose any weight, so the calorie monitor keeps me from doing that. Don't yo just feel more hungry? Of course if you excersize more you'll need to replace more calories. But do you really need to calculate this-especially as the calculation is probably not much more accurate than your guesstimating that you "need" an extra helping of lasagna. I'm sorry and don't mean to be attacking anyone. But my experience in sports and training has now run about 50 years. This includes years of training for sports in which weight was critical-wrestling, boxing, karate-as well as running and cycling and I have neve once needed to calculate calories burned. Well perhaps my age (60) has something to do with it. When I was really serious about training there was no such calculator. Again, I have no problem with folks doing this but it certainly isn't necessary. |
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Terry Morse wrote in message ...
gds wrote: And what good does knowing this do? I'm serious. I mean if you have fun keeping track of this that's fine with me. But what nutritional value does it add? Will you eat more to make up a "deficit" or eat less because you in "surplus"? Yes. If I burn more calories than usual on a given day, I'll eat more that evening. If it was a particularly long day (5000+ kcal), I'll even eat two dinners. I'll still eat the same amount during a ride, just to keep from bonking. I can't afford to lose any weight, so the calorie monitor keeps me from doing that. Don't yo just feel more hungry? Of course if you excersize more you'll need to replace more calories. But do you really need to calculate this-especially as the calculation is probably not much more accurate than your guesstimating that you "need" an extra helping of lasagna. I'm sorry and don't mean to be attacking anyone. But my experience in sports and training has now run about 50 years. This includes years of training for sports in which weight was critical-wrestling, boxing, karate-as well as running and cycling and I have neve once needed to calculate calories burned. Well perhaps my age (60) has something to do with it. When I was really serious about training there was no such calculator. Again, I have no problem with folks doing this but it certainly isn't necessary. |
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gds wrote:
Don't yo just feel more hungry? Of course if you excersize more you'll need to replace more calories. But do you really need to calculate this-especially as the calculation is probably not much more accurate than your guesstimating that you "need" an extra helping of lasagna. this doesn't work for me when burning a *LOT* of calories (5,000+ cals on high mileage days) for days on end. for me this usually means touring and yea, i've lost a fair bit of weight without being hungry in the slightest. i have to make a mental note to eat more than i feel is "correct" and i'm not exactly carrying around a lot of body fat (6'2" 175). in normal usage i don't have this problem & weight maintenance is pretty easy. -- david reuteler |
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gds wrote:
Don't yo just feel more hungry? Of course if you excersize more you'll need to replace more calories. But do you really need to calculate this-especially as the calculation is probably not much more accurate than your guesstimating that you "need" an extra helping of lasagna. No, I don't typically feel more hungry after a hard day in the saddle. If anything, my appetite is supressed for several hours. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/ |
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David Reuteler wrote in message ...
gds wrote: Don't yo just feel more hungry? Of course if you excersize more you'll need to replace more calories. But do you really need to calculate this-especially as the calculation is probably not much more accurate than your guesstimating that you "need" an extra helping of lasagna. this doesn't work for me when burning a *LOT* of calories (5,000+ cals on high mileage days) for days on end. for me this usually means touring and yea, i've lost a fair bit of weight without being hungry in the slightest. i have to make a mental note to eat more than i feel is "correct" and i'm not exactly carrying around a lot of body fat (6'2" 175). in normal usage i don't have this problem & weight maintenance is pretty easy. Interesting! I understand about not feeling especially hungry when going through periods of very high work levels- I think exhaustion tempers the hunger feeling. But I (and most other folks I think) know that when you do really big days- 80+ miles say- that you are going to need to eat a little extra. In a period in which you sustain burning 5000 calories per day for several days you will lose weight at any level of fitness as I think it very hard to replace that quantity and have the digestive system work well enough to sustain the work. But back to the issue. What good does an (inaccurate) caloric consumption estimator do? At any level to be useful it would have to be accurate and then you would have to be equally accurate at measuring the calories that you consume- another less than accurate activity other than in laboratories. I think I'll just stick with having another glass of red wine with that extra slice of lasagna. Oh! and I'll have that cookie over there too! Seriously, can't most of you who work out regularly estimate your weight within 2 lbs? I have a pretty good sense of both water loss and actual weight change in that range as do most of my sports friends. I too am lean and am not interested in losing weight as a goal- but I do keep track of it because I find that my performance is best within a quite small range. |
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"Kevan Smith" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:06:24 -0700, Terry Morse from Terry Morse Software, Inc. wrote: gds wrote: Don't yo just feel more hungry? Of course if you excersize more you'll need to replace more calories. But do you really need to calculate this-especially as the calculation is probably not much more accurate than your guesstimating that you "need" an extra helping of lasagna. No, I don't typically feel more hungry after a hard day in the saddle. If anything, my appetite is supressed for several hours. That happens to me, too. My stomach just seems to shut down. When I do really long rides, I have to schedule time to eat, because I don't get hunger pangs. So, what's up with this? There's been times on STP where I simply force myself to eat, because it's a long ride, whether you do it in one or two days, and I know that I have to keep eating to keep pedalling. After I finished this year, my friends insisted that I have a burrito or gyro or something before getting on the bus to get home, and I followed their advice more out of sheepish exhaustion rather than any desire to eat. But the year before I didn't eat before getting on the bus, and I was *miserable* by the time I got home. So, why is it that sometimes we don't feel like eating during or just after a long ride? This does not sound like Wisdom of the Body to me. -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply Home of the meditative cyclist: http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky |
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Figuring out calories burned?
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004 9:56:51 AM UTC-7, chris christanis wrote:
I had a cheap Bell computer that did it for me but it fell off (cheap). So I bought a cateye but it does not tell you calories burned. Anyway to figure this out? Some time ago there was a formula for calories burned in the Bicycle magazine. I can not locate it so anyone else have it? |
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Figuring out calories burned?
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004 9:56:51 AM UTC-7, chris christanis wrote:
I had a cheap Bell computer that did it for me but it fell off (cheap). So I bought a cateye but it does not tell you calories burned. Anyway to figure this out? In short - no. And what's more, the Bell was probably incorrect. It was no doubt figuring distance and weight. Any climbing adds to calories burned and any coasting downhill subtracts. But it was an approximation that was more accurate the flatter your course. It requires a computer that looks at speed, distance, climbing and cadence and even then it is only approximate. Though closer than the Bell. |
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