Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:31:31 +1050, Truepurple wrote:

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability

Not for the handlebars, but very nice for side-visibility:

http://data.energizer.com/datasheets...e/bik1bu21.PDF

On 16 Nov 2003 08:33:44 +1050, Truepurple
wrote:

Anyone know what batteries the tireflies use?

I would not bother with them. they are not very bright at all. and they only
activate with bumps. not a spinning tire.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=31 0 is
a newer version of them.

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Depending on this crap to communicate with other traffic will get you
killed.

very true. a driver will not know what the lights are saying. it is pretty
pointless.

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Truepurple wrote:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

I see no use for these.

Brake lights are useful on cars because it's normal for all cars to move
at approximately the same speed. Bright brake lights alert the
following drivers that the car in front is doing something pretty
unusual - that is, it will soon be going slower than other vehicles.

Drivers don't need to be told that about bikes, because it's normal for
a bike to be going slower than other vehicles.

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.

?? I don't see how a signaling cyclist looks goofy. And I don't see
any great risk in signaling.


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Frkrygowhaltspa wrote:
I see no use for these.
Brake lights are useful on cars because it's normal for all cars to move
at approximately the same speed. Bright brake lights alert the following
drivers that the car in front is doing something pretty unusual - that
is, it will soon be going slower than other vehicles.
Drivers don't need to be told that about bikes, because it's normal for
a bike to be going slower than other vehicles.



Apparently you 've never had a car ride your fender. As i'm going down a
road its common for cars to come up drive right behind you for a bit
then pass you, if they can(as in no traffic the other way) If I were to
suddenly stop i'd get hit by said car riding my fender.

What difference does it make whether they expect you to go slow or not?
If they don't expect you to stop and you do you could be in trouble.
Hopefully a light letting them know your stopping would help with that.

@steve knight And whats hard to understand or risky about a flashing
turn light?(not talking about the first link I posted) If a driver can't
understand that then they should get off the road and go back to driving
school since just about every car out there uses such a system. How
often do you see cars signal a left hand turn with there arm? Or a
motorbike signal a turn by sticking there arm out?

And it is somewhat hard and risky to stick your arm out. Sure it would
get easier with practice but your still taking your hand off the break,
not to mention risking some car trying to pass you taking your arm off.


@Mathias yah that light looks nice. Perhaps I could get that or
tireflares http://www.buytireflys.com/. Nicest thing about the
tireflares over the wheelie bike light is that the tireflares have
antitheift mechanisms on them so someone couldn't just pop them off and
walk off with em. But the tireflares do use two batteries instead of the
wheelies one. Anyone have experience with either? Anyone know what
battery type the tireflares use?

@the obnoxious Ryan Yah I did searches first. And came up with nothing.
Clearly you are so much more skilled at using search engines then me.
Thats great, now shutup. I looked and looked and found nothing so asked
here just in case someone knew. You can either be nice and help or not.
Either way no need to give me grief.



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How about one of those miniature LED lights on your gloves? Motorists
wouldn't see them until you were sticking your hand out to signal, and
extended thirty inches or so out from the bike would make it much nore
obvious as a turn signal at a distance than the six inch seperation you
would get on a bike mounted signal.

"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

See you on the road.
Chris
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ruepurple asked:

Whats a retro reflector and how does it
differ from a regular reflector?

No differance. just another name for it (English?)

"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

See you on the road.
Chris
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Truepurple wrote:

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability

If you have a road bike, your basic red rear light with seatpost mount
will fit just fine on the bottom of the drops.

RFM

Truepurple wrote:

Apparently you 've never had a car ride your fender.

Oh, I've had that happen occasionally. But I've never needed a brake light.

As i'm going down a
road its common for cars to come up drive right behind you for a bit
then pass you, if they can(as in no traffic the other way) If I were to
suddenly stop i'd get hit by said car riding my fender.

What difference does it make whether they expect you to go slow or not?
If they don't expect you to stop and you do you could be in trouble.
Hopefully a light letting them know your stopping would help with that.

Well, I imagine that whatever's up ahead and causing you to stop would
be quite visible to a driver just behind you. And a car can stop _much_
more quickly than a bicycle. So your sudden stop is unlikely to
surprise them, and they won't likely hit you anyway.

The rest of the world seems to think bike brake lights aren't needed.
Certainly, I've _never_ seen a cyclist using a brake light. I've
_never_ seen a bike brake light for sale.

But if you feel you need one, go ahead and install one. It's little
things like this that help keep our economy going. ;-)

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"Truepurple" wrote in message
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Apparently you 've never had a car ride your fender. As i'm going down a
road its common for cars to come up drive right behind you for a bit
then pass you, if they can(as in no traffic the other way) If I were to
suddenly stop i'd get hit by said car riding my fender.

As if a driver would be able to see or understand what the illumination of a
dim red light on the back of a bike is supposed to mean.

As I said, having such a light might do no harm, as long as you don't
actually depend on it to have any benefit.

I've been in the situation you describe many times. If I've needed to signal
to the following driver, my hands are far more expressive and visible. If
I've needed to come to such a sudden stop that I had no time to signal, the
need was just as obvious to the driver. And if they didn't see the hazard,
they're even less likely to see a little red bike light go on.

What difference does it make whether they expect you to go slow or not?
If they don't expect you to stop and you do you could be in trouble.
Hopefully a light letting them know your stopping would help with that.

What reason to stop while riding in a thru lane could possibly apply to you
but not the driver behind you? It's not like you're blocking his view of
anything.

@steve knight And whats hard to understand or risky about a flashing
turn light?(not talking about the first link I posted) If a driver can't
understand that then they should get off the road and go back to driving
school since just about every car out there uses such a system. How
often do you see cars signal a left hand turn with there arm? Or a
motorbike signal a turn by sticking there arm out?

Again, flashing lights on bikes mean something different to drivers than do
flashing lights on cars. They *expect* cyclists to signal with their hands
(if they signal at all).

The single most important principle of vehicular cycling safety is to do
what's expected, to be predictable.

And it is somewhat hard and risky to stick your arm out. Sure it would
get easier with practice but your still taking your hand off the break,
not to mention risking some car trying to pass you taking your arm off.

You're imagining dangers that don't exist. First, if you lack the skill to
execute a turn signal with your arm I question whether you should be riding
in traffic at all. Second, don't you have a mirror? Or at least a head that
turns? If you're trying to move left across traffic and worried about your
arm being injured, you're not looking behind you sufficiently. Third, under
what circumstances would you be moving left across traffic in a situation
where you'd need to signal *and* be braking at the same time?

It obviously doesn't affect me whether you buy turn signal lights or brake
lights. Be my guest. But as a fellow cyclist I'd be very concerned if you
then relied on such lights to protect you in any way, or substituted them
for improved cycling skills.

RichC