I would like to discuss 700-C high-pressure tires

Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/5/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:

There are many things you can use to get you home. A piece of cardboard
milk carton or cardboard drink box is good. The wax or plastic layer
really helps hold the cardboard together. A plastic note is great if
you have one.

But it's also fairly easy to make a reliable repair at home that will
likely last until the tyre is worn out. You only need a piece of fabric
that is relatively thin and non stretch. You could stitch it in place
after gluing it with contact adhesive or probably even silicon. Smear a
bit more silicon on the outside to keep water from the fabric if you
like. You could even cover it on the inside with a large inner tube
patch, if you're worried about abrasion on the tube.

I like Tyvek, which is a sort of non-woven plastic fabric. One cycling
event I rode long ago used 3" x 5" Tyvek for participant numbers, and I
saved mine to add to my patch kit. Since then, I've gotten a few more
pieces from shipping envelopes made of the stuff. It's very thin, very
tough, and waterproof.


We always use the wrap of a granola bar someone is carrying. It is made of
non stretchable plastic. It is not as tough as Tyvek but always at hand.
The change is very small one hits that same spot. Replace tire at home of
course.
--
Lou

On 06/08/2015 3:33 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/5/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:

There are many things you can use to get you home. A piece of cardboard
milk carton or cardboard drink box is good. The wax or plastic layer
really helps hold the cardboard together. A plastic note is great if
you have one.

But it's also fairly easy to make a reliable repair at home that will
likely last until the tyre is worn out. You only need a piece of fabric
that is relatively thin and non stretch. You could stitch it in place
after gluing it with contact adhesive or probably even silicon. Smear a
bit more silicon on the outside to keep water from the fabric if you
like. You could even cover it on the inside with a large inner tube
patch, if you're worried about abrasion on the tube.

I like Tyvek, which is a sort of non-woven plastic fabric. One cycling
event I rode long ago used 3" x 5" Tyvek for participant numbers, and I
saved mine to add to my patch kit. Since then, I've gotten a few more
pieces from shipping envelopes made of the stuff. It's very thin, very
tough, and waterproof.


We always use the wrap of a granola bar someone is carrying. It is made of
non stretchable plastic. It is not as tough as Tyvek but always at hand.
The change is very small one hits that same spot. Replace tire at home of
course.



Canada has decided to move from paper notes to plastic. The plastic
ones work perfectly for this.

Phil W Lee writes:

Frank Krygowski considered Thu, 6 Aug 2015
00:14:05 -0400 the perfect time to write:

On 8/5/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:

There are many things you can use to get you home. A piece of cardboard
milk carton or cardboard drink box is good. The wax or plastic layer
really helps hold the cardboard together. A plastic note is great if
you have one.

But it's also fairly easy to make a reliable repair at home that will
likely last until the tyre is worn out. You only need a piece of fabric
that is relatively thin and non stretch. You could stitch it in place
after gluing it with contact adhesive or probably even silicon. Smear a
bit more silicon on the outside to keep water from the fabric if you
like. You could even cover it on the inside with a large inner tube
patch, if you're worried about abrasion on the tube.

I like Tyvek, which is a sort of non-woven plastic fabric. One cycling
event I rode long ago used 3" x 5" Tyvek for participant numbers, and I
saved mine to add to my patch kit. Since then, I've gotten a few more
pieces from shipping envelopes made of the stuff. It's very thin, very
tough, and waterproof.

Practical example:
http://s9.photobucket.com/user/phil_...le/Tyre%20boot
As you can see, this was a major failure where the sidewall attaches
to the bead - but I was able to boot it well enough to complete the
day's ride (another 60 miles or so). A bit lumpy, and I was
caustious, particularly on downhill stretches, but it got me home.
I took the pictures to demonstrate the booting process after getting
home, so that the method could be shown to less experienced riders.
The boot was a cut open plastic tube which had contained toothpaste, I
believe - it was found in the roadside litter. Since then I've always
carried some suitable material for booting a tyre in my on-bike kit.
If you're desperate, there are probably somes types of leaf or grass
which would be strong enough.

Does anyone here bother to move the booted tire to the rear, if it
were a serious cut in a front tire? Doing so would be a bit of a
bother, but if it did let go, better on the rear wheel.

--
Joe Riel

On 8/6/2015 4:08 PM, Phil W Lee wrote:
Frank Krygowski considered Thu, 6 Aug 2015
00:14:05 -0400 the perfect time to write:

On 8/5/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:

There are many things you can use to get you home. A piece of cardboard
milk carton or cardboard drink box is good. The wax or plastic layer
really helps hold the cardboard together. A plastic note is great if
you have one.

But it's also fairly easy to make a reliable repair at home that will
likely last until the tyre is worn out. You only need a piece of fabric
that is relatively thin and non stretch. You could stitch it in place
after gluing it with contact adhesive or probably even silicon. Smear a
bit more silicon on the outside to keep water from the fabric if you
like. You could even cover it on the inside with a large inner tube
patch, if you're worried about abrasion on the tube.

I like Tyvek, which is a sort of non-woven plastic fabric. One cycling
event I rode long ago used 3" x 5" Tyvek for participant numbers, and I
saved mine to add to my patch kit. Since then, I've gotten a few more
pieces from shipping envelopes made of the stuff. It's very thin, very
tough, and waterproof.

Practical example:
http://s9.photobucket.com/user/phil_...le/Tyre%20boot
As you can see, this was a major failure where the sidewall attaches
to the bead - but I was able to boot it well enough to complete the
day's ride (another 60 miles or so). A bit lumpy, and I was
caustious, particularly on downhill stretches, but it got me home.
I took the pictures to demonstrate the booting process after getting
home, so that the method could be shown to less experienced riders.
The boot was a cut open plastic tube which had contained toothpaste, I
believe - it was found in the roadside litter. Since then I've always
carried some suitable material for booting a tyre in my on-bike kit.
If you're desperate, there are probably somes types of leaf or grass
which would be strong enough.

Another trick I've used, again on a long tour in a remote area with many
miles to go: After booting, I wrapped that section of inner tube with a
layer of duct tape, to help reduce tensile stress on the tire.

It was a bit tricky because I wanted the inflated tube to fill the tire
at the location of the boot. So I inflated the tube out of the tire
until it matched the tire size, so to speak; then I taped with duct
tape. I repeated this later with a Continental Top Touring tire that
wasn't cut, but whose sidewall seemed to be failing, showing bubbles.

I don't know this added precaution was really necessary, but I got no
blowouts.


--
- Frank Krygowski

Duane wrote:
On 06/08/2015 3:33 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/5/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:

There are many things you can use to get you home. A piece of cardboard
milk carton or cardboard drink box is good. The wax or plastic layer
really helps hold the cardboard together. A plastic note is great if
you have one.

But it's also fairly easy to make a reliable repair at home that will
likely last until the tyre is worn out. You only need a piece of fabric
that is relatively thin and non stretch. You could stitch it in place
after gluing it with contact adhesive or probably even silicon. Smear a
bit more silicon on the outside to keep water from the fabric if you
like. You could even cover it on the inside with a large inner tube
patch, if you're worried about abrasion on the tube.

I like Tyvek, which is a sort of non-woven plastic fabric. One cycling
event I rode long ago used 3" x 5" Tyvek for participant numbers, and I
saved mine to add to my patch kit. Since then, I've gotten a few more
pieces from shipping envelopes made of the stuff. It's very thin, very
tough, and waterproof.


We always use the wrap of a granola bar someone is carrying. It is made of
non stretchable plastic. It is not as tough as Tyvek but always at hand.
The change is very small one hits that same spot. Replace tire at home of
course.



Canada has decided to move from paper notes to plastic. The plastic ones
work perfectly for this.

Yeah, but it will cost you at least $5.

Ralph Barone wrote:
Duane wrote:
On 06/08/2015 3:33 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/5/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:

There are many things you can use to get you home. A piece of cardboard
milk carton or cardboard drink box is good. The wax or plastic layer
really helps hold the cardboard together. A plastic note is great if
you have one.

But it's also fairly easy to make a reliable repair at home that will
likely last until the tyre is worn out. You only need a piece of fabric
that is relatively thin and non stretch. You could stitch it in place
after gluing it with contact adhesive or probably even silicon. Smear a
bit more silicon on the outside to keep water from the fabric if you
like. You could even cover it on the inside with a large inner tube
patch, if you're worried about abrasion on the tube.

I like Tyvek, which is a sort of non-woven plastic fabric. One cycling
event I rode long ago used 3" x 5" Tyvek for participant numbers, and I
saved mine to add to my patch kit. Since then, I've gotten a few more
pieces from shipping envelopes made of the stuff. It's very thin, very
tough, and waterproof.


We always use the wrap of a granola bar someone is carrying. It is made of
non stretchable plastic. It is not as tough as Tyvek but always at hand.
The change is very small one hits that same spot. Replace tire at home of
course.



Canada has decided to move from paper notes to plastic. The plastic ones
work perfectly for this.

Yeah, but it will cost you at least $5.

Five dollars Canadian.

But I get it back when I change the tire.
--
duane

Booted tires are fronts carrying less load pressure...assume you are now in boot not go mode


There are commercial boots but an rubber tube oblong with ears on the long side
works. The oblong is sized for your wheels then positioned with ears toward the rim od

On a trip across ND, an unlikely journey, carrying a spare tire is probably appro

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:40:07 AM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
Ralph Barone wrote:
Duane wrote:
On 06/08/2015 3:33 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/5/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:

There are many things you can use to get you home. A piece of cardboard
milk carton or cardboard drink box is good. The wax or plastic layer
really helps hold the cardboard together. A plastic note is great if
you have one.

But it's also fairly easy to make a reliable repair at home that will
likely last until the tyre is worn out. You only need a piece of fabric
that is relatively thin and non stretch. You could stitch it in place
after gluing it with contact adhesive or probably even silicon. Smear a
bit more silicon on the outside to keep water from the fabric if you
like. You could even cover it on the inside with a large inner tube
patch, if you're worried about abrasion on the tube.

I like Tyvek, which is a sort of non-woven plastic fabric. One cycling
event I rode long ago used 3" x 5" Tyvek for participant numbers, and I
saved mine to add to my patch kit. Since then, I've gotten a few more
pieces from shipping envelopes made of the stuff. It's very thin, very
tough, and waterproof.


We always use the wrap of a granola bar someone is carrying. It is made of
non stretchable plastic. It is not as tough as Tyvek but always at hand.
The change is very small one hits that same spot. Replace tire at home of
course.



Canada has decided to move from paper notes to plastic. The plastic ones
work perfectly for this.

Yeah, but it will cost you at least $5.

Five dollars Canadian.

But I get it back when I change the tire.
--
duane

It only costs me a fiver to take a taxi home when I get a flat. That's less hassle than pointlessly hauling a pump and a repair kit for years when they aren't needed just because "cyclists have always done it".

Andre Jute

On 07/08/2015 7:48 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:40:07 AM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
Ralph Barone wrote:
Duane wrote:
On 06/08/2015 3:33 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/5/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:

There are many things you can use to get you home. A piece of cardboard
milk carton or cardboard drink box is good. The wax or plastic layer
really helps hold the cardboard together. A plastic note is great if
you have one.

But it's also fairly easy to make a reliable repair at home that will
likely last until the tyre is worn out. You only need a piece of fabric
that is relatively thin and non stretch. You could stitch it in place
after gluing it with contact adhesive or probably even silicon. Smear a
bit more silicon on the outside to keep water from the fabric if you
like. You could even cover it on the inside with a large inner tube
patch, if you're worried about abrasion on the tube.

I like Tyvek, which is a sort of non-woven plastic fabric. One cycling
event I rode long ago used 3" x 5" Tyvek for participant numbers, and I
saved mine to add to my patch kit. Since then, I've gotten a few more
pieces from shipping envelopes made of the stuff. It's very thin, very
tough, and waterproof.


We always use the wrap of a granola bar someone is carrying. It is made of
non stretchable plastic. It is not as tough as Tyvek but always at hand.
The change is very small one hits that same spot. Replace tire at home of
course.



Canada has decided to move from paper notes to plastic. The plastic ones
work perfectly for this.

Yeah, but it will cost you at least $5.

Five dollars Canadian.

But I get it back when I change the tire.
--
duane

It only costs me a fiver to take a taxi home when I get a flat. That's less hassle than pointlessly hauling a pump and a repair kit for years when they aren't needed just because "cyclists have always done it".

Where I mostly ride, it could cost me 30 bucks for a taxi and I'd have
to wait an hour an hour or more. And then my ride would be over. I
carry a spare tube, a couple CO2 charges and a small frame pump.
Generally takes me 10-15 minutes to swap out a tube and I'm back on the
road.