Walking a bicycle into a store

On Apr 16, 6:12*am, Doug wrote:
On Apr 15, 10:32*am, NM wrote:

On Apr 15, 7:53*am, Doug wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect

local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.

Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?

As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.

Doug.

And we are talking cycles, cycles are not wheelchairs, wheelchairs are
for the disabled, cycles are not, what do you find so difficult to
understand about that?

What you find so difficult to understand is who decides which is for
what and why.

The fact an individual disabled person finds it suitable to use a
cycle does not make the cycle a general aid for the disabled thus it
will not gain any concessions.

Get over it.

So you admit then that disabled people who use bicycles are
discriminated against?

Doug.


It's obvious to any right thinking person that disabled people who use
cycles are not discriminated against because they choose to use a
cycle.

Whatever restriction there is on cycling use would apply to all
cyclists not just the disabled, therefore there is no discrimination.

On Apr 16, 6:14*am, Doug wrote:
On Apr 15, 10:51*am, JNugent wrote:

On 15/04/2012 07:53, Doug wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:17 pm, *wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, *wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect

local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.

Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?

As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

(b) How fast does a wheelchair go, and what is its approximate minimum speed
in the hands of an ordinary passenger in order to remain stable?

What about tricycles used for the disabled, as some are, and they are
discriminated against too?

Doug.

Tricycles constructed and adapted for the specific use of a disabled
person? Is there such a thing marketed in the EU, approved, with CE
mark, etc, (I don't think so but would be prepared to be shot down)
home made/modified, maybe.

On Apr 15, 10:51*am, JNugent wrote:

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

As I said, it is easier to manage by riding it (at walking speed) than
walking it. Lets clarify further - dawdling walking pace. [Note: I am
not not a circus performer.]

On 16/04/2012 06:14, Doug wrote:
On Apr 15, 10:51 am, wrote:
On 15/04/2012 07:53, Doug wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:17 pm, wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect

local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.

Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?

As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

(b) How fast does a wheelchair go, and what is its approximate minimum speed
in the hands of an ordinary passenger in order to remain stable?

What about tricycles used for the disabled, as some are, and they are
discriminated against too?

I refer you to the first part of the questions indexed (a) and (b), above.

On Apr 16, 9:47*am, NM wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:14*am, Doug wrote:









On Apr 15, 10:51*am, JNugent wrote:

On 15/04/2012 07:53, Doug wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:17 pm, *wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, *wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect

local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.

Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?

As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

(b) How fast does a wheelchair go, and what is its approximate minimum speed
in the hands of an ordinary passenger in order to remain stable?

What about tricycles used for the disabled, as some are, and they are
discriminated against too?

Doug.

Tricycles constructed and adapted for the specific use of a disabled
person? Is there such a thing marketed in the EU, approved, with CE
mark, etc, (I don't think so but would be prepared to be shot down)
home made/modified, maybe.

You obviously know little about this subject. Suggest you do a search
to find out about tricycles for the disabled.

Doug.

On Apr 16, 11:44*am, dr6092 wrote:
On Apr 15, 10:51*am, JNugent wrote:

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

As I said, it is easier to manage by riding it (at walking speed) than
walking it. Lets clarify further - dawdling walking pace. [Note: I am
not not a circus performer.]

Lowering the saddle and placing both feet on the ground and scooting
is also feasible on pavements etc but even this is not allowed and is
discriminated against.

Doug.

On Apr 18, 6:40*am, Doug wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:47*am, NM wrote:

On Apr 16, 6:14*am, Doug wrote:

On Apr 15, 10:51*am, JNugent wrote:

On 15/04/2012 07:53, Doug wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:17 pm, *wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, *wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect

local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.

Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?

As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

(b) How fast does a wheelchair go, and what is its approximate minimum speed
in the hands of an ordinary passenger in order to remain stable?

What about tricycles used for the disabled, as some are, and they are
discriminated against too?

Doug.

Tricycles constructed and adapted for the specific use of a disabled
person? Is there such a thing marketed in the EU, approved, with CE
mark, etc, (I don't think so but would be prepared to be shot down)
home made/modified, maybe.

You obviously know little about this subject. Suggest you do a search
to find out about tricycles for the disabled.

Doug.

You said tricycles

On Apr 18, 7:00*am, Doug wrote:
On Apr 16, 11:44*am, dr6092 wrote: On Apr 15, 10:51*am, JNugent wrote:

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

As I said, it is easier to manage by riding it (at walking speed) than
walking it. Lets clarify further - dawdling walking pace. [Note: I am
not not a circus performer.]

Lowering the saddle and placing both feet on the ground and scooting
is also feasible on pavements etc but even this is not allowed and is
discriminated against.

Doug.

For reasons of public safety.

On 18/04/2012 07:00, Doug wrote:
On Apr 16, 11:44 am, wrote:
On Apr 15, 10:51 am, wrote:

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

As I said, it is easier to manage by riding it (at walking speed) than
walking it. Lets clarify further - dawdling walking pace. [Note: I am
not not a circus performer.]

Lowering the saddle and placing both feet on the ground and scooting
is also feasible on pavements etc but even this is not allowed and is
discriminated against.

Doug.

I agree, cyclist are discriminated against by not letting them ride on
the pavement (but they still do)

On Apr 18, 6:35*pm, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 18/04/2012 07:00, Doug wrote:









On Apr 16, 11:44 am, *wrote:
On Apr 15, 10:51 am, *wrote:

(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

As I said, it is easier to manage by riding it (at walking speed) than
walking it. Lets clarify further - dawdling walking pace. [Note: I am
not not a circus performer.]

Lowering the saddle and placing both feet on the ground and scooting
is also feasible on pavements etc but even this is not allowed and is
discriminated against.

Doug.

I agree, cyclist are discriminated against by not letting them ride on
the pavement (but they still do)

And are sometimes punished for it. BTW you forgot to use the word
'disabled' in connection with 'cyclist'. Disabled cyclists are
discriminated against because they are punished or reprimanded the
same as able-bodied cyclists.

Doug.