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On 15/11/2018 13:19, Simon Jester wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw8Kzw60rE Who was at fault and who should pay the bill? A genuinely amusing video for a change. There's little doubt that the insurer of the pirate car is going to have to pick up the tab for the damage to the car and probably a good few hundreds of pounds to the operator of the bus for repairs. |
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JNugent wrote:
On 15/11/2018 13:19, Simon Jester wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw8Kzw60rE Who was at fault and who should pay the bill? A genuinely amusing video for a change. There's little doubt that the insurer of the pirate car is going to have to pick up the tab for the damage to the car and probably a good few hundreds of pounds to the operator of the bus for repairs. Agreed. Finally Jester has posted something worth clicking on. In a different life I used to own taxis, the punters were always opening doors without looking. Note that in the video the passenger is a violent import who scarpered. |
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On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 5:15:50 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2018 13:19, Simon Jester wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw8Kzw60rE Who was at fault and who should pay the bill? A genuinely amusing video for a change. There's little doubt that the insurer of the pirate car is going to have to pick up the tab for the damage to the car and probably a good few hundreds of pounds to the operator of the bus for repairs. Agreed. Finally Jester has posted something worth clicking on. How do you know if I have posted something worth clicking on without clicking on it? |
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Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 5:15:50 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2018 13:19, Simon Jester wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw8Kzw60rE Who was at fault and who should pay the bill? A genuinely amusing video for a change. There's little doubt that the insurer of the pirate car is going to have to pick up the tab for the damage to the car and probably a good few hundreds of pounds to the operator of the bus for repairs. Agreed. Finally Jester has posted something worth clicking on. How do you know if I have posted something worth clicking on without clicking on it? Past experience. |
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On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Jester wrote: On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 5:15:50 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2018 13:19, Simon Jester wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw8Kzw60rE Who was at fault and who should pay the bill? A genuinely amusing video for a change. There's little doubt that the insurer of the pirate car is going to have to pick up the tab for the damage to the car and probably a good few hundreds of pounds to the operator of the bus for repairs. Agreed. Finally Jester has posted something worth clicking on. How do you know if I have posted something worth clicking on without clicking on it? Past experience. Exactly what 'past experience' told you this was worth clicking on? |
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On 15/11/2018 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2018 13:19, Simon Jester wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw8Kzw60rE Who was at fault and who should pay the bill? A genuinely amusing video for a change. There's little doubt that the insurer of the pirate car is going to have to pick up the tab for the damage to the car and probably a good few hundreds of pounds to the operator of the bus for repairs. Agreed. Finally Jester has posted something worth clicking on. In a different life I used to own taxis, the punters were always opening doors without looking. Note that in the video the passenger is a violent import who scarpered. The driver of the pirate car did himself no favours in allowing a situation where the only option available to the passenger was opening the front passenger door into the moving traffic lane because the car was stopped against the right hand kerb (even in a one-way street). He ought to have either sought out a spare bit of clear kerb on the left OR pulled up near parked cars on the left, such that no vehicle could reasonably try to pass along the passenger side of the car. Well, no vehicle except a bicycle. And as we know, it's impossible for a bike to do any damage to anything or anybody else (except for the occasions when it does). |
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On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 2:14:26 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 15/11/2018 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2018 13:19, Simon Jester wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw8Kzw60rE Who was at fault and who should pay the bill? A genuinely amusing video for a change. There's little doubt that the insurer of the pirate car is going to have to pick up the tab for the damage to the car and probably a good few hundreds of pounds to the operator of the bus for repairs. Agreed. Finally Jester has posted something worth clicking on. In a different life I used to own taxis, the punters were always opening doors without looking. Note that in the video the passenger is a violent import who scarpered. The driver of the pirate car did himself no favours in allowing a situation where the only option available to the passenger was opening the front passenger door into the moving traffic lane because the car was stopped against the right hand kerb (even in a one-way street). Go ahead, tell us why you call it a pirate car. He ought to have either sought out a spare bit of clear kerb on the left OR pulled up near parked cars on the left, such that no vehicle could reasonably try to pass along the passenger side of the car. Well, no vehicle except a bicycle. And as we know, it's impossible for a bike to do any damage to anything or anybody else (except for the occasions when it does). Would it be the cyclist's fault if the passenger opened the door into the cyclist's path? You have already stated the bus driver was not at fault. |
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On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 2:29:03 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote:
Would it be the cyclist's fault if the passenger opened the door into the cyclist's path? HC Rule 239 is clear on this. http://www.highwaycode.info/images/h..._your_door.jpg |
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On 19/11/2018 14:29, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 2:14:26 PM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2018 17:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: JNugent wrote: On 15/11/2018 13:19, Simon Jester wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hw8Kzw60rE Who was at fault and who should pay the bill? A genuinely amusing video for a change. There's little doubt that the insurer of the pirate car is going to have to pick up the tab for the damage to the car and probably a good few hundreds of pounds to the operator of the bus for repairs. Agreed. Finally Jester has posted something worth clicking on. In a different life I used to own taxis, the punters were always opening doors without looking. Note that in the video the passenger is a violent import who scarpered. The driver of the pirate car did himself no favours in allowing a situation where the only option available to the passenger was opening the front passenger door into the moving traffic lane because the car was stopped against the right hand kerb (even in a one-way street). Go ahead, tell us why you call it a pirate car. Because that's what it is. He ought to have either sought out a spare bit of clear kerb on the left OR pulled up near parked cars on the left, such that no vehicle could reasonably try to pass along the passenger side of the car. Well, no vehicle except a bicycle. And as we know, it's impossible for a bike to do any damage to anything or anybody else (except for the occasions when it does). Would it be the cyclist's fault if the passenger opened the door into the cyclist's path? That depends on the positions of the vehicles concerned. Occupants of a vehicle pulling into the kerb in order to allow passengers to alight onto the nearside footway (that's the left in this country) can reasonably expect that the vehicle will not be undertaken in whatever narrow gap there may be between the car and the kerb. The same applies to bus passengers getting off at a bus stop. Go on - tell us how cyclists are allowed to undertake a stationary bus at a bus stop by riding along the gutter. Passengers who try to emerge into a moving traffic lane without looking are asking for trouble, which is why the driver ought not to get into such a position that it becomes the only option for the LHS passenger, many of whom will unaware of the care and caution to be exercised. After all, you don't need a driving licence to be a passenger. You have already stated the bus driver was not at fault. And do you know why I stated that the car's insurer would have to pay up (which is what I actually said)? Because the bus driver was not at fault. The pirate car driver was not without responsibility there (he ought not to have left the passenger with only that single option of alighting into a moving traffic lane), but neither was the passenger, who might have been no better trained or qualified in road craft than a cyclist. |
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