Bike Tyre Launched Rocks

"A" wrote in message
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1. If I run over a pedestrian whilst cycling, neither of us is covered.
2. If I collide with a parked motor vehicle, I'm not covered. I'm not
sure
what happens if a motor vehicle is parked illegally.
3. If I collide with a motor vehicle 'in use' it depends on the situation.

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Interestingly, you will be covered in examples 2 and 3 if you are cycling
to
or from work regardless of other circumstances.


That's good!

The riskiest riding I do is when I commute (roads in the rain etc).

...

Tim

Bob Byrne wrote:
I don't own a car and therefore don't pay 3rd party but still ride a
bicycle. Where does that leave me?



Yes, maybe a wise move to some R&D into this issue.

Remember launching a empty Oasis fruit juice bottle across one lane of
Hoddle St several years ago. The facts were, car traffic was too heavy
for me to be on the road, so I was on the footpath*. Too dark to see
mentioned glass bottle, ran straight over it at speed. Bottle popped out
from under the rear wheel, into moving traffic. Luckily it missed any
cars and was duly smashed to a million ittsybittsy bits by a big truck.

More amusing was a "own goal" I scored on the Upfield bikepath on the
steep little hill over Albion St in Brunswick. Being very tired at the
end of a long day, I was sloppy changing shifters, when a tooth from the
middle ring snapped off, flew upwards & grazed my left knuckle through
the bike gloves.

ah, stoopidity+low end components........



(*this was pre-Dec.1 1999)



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Bob Byrne wrote:
I don't own a car and therefore don't pay 3rd party but still ride a
bicycle. Where does that leave me?



Yes, maybe a wise move to some R&D into this issue.

Remember launching a empty Oasis fruit juice bottle across one lane of
Hoddle St several years ago. The facts were, car traffic was too heavy
for me to be on the road, so I was on the footpath*. Too dark to see
mentioned glass bottle, ran straight over it at speed. Bottle popped out
from under the rear wheel, into moving traffic. Luckily it missed any
cars and was duly smashed to a million ittsybittsy bits by a big truck.

More amusing was a "own goal" I scored on the Upfield bikepath on the
steep little hill over Albion St in Brunswick. Being very tired at the
end of a long day, I was sloppy changing shifters, when a tooth from the
middle ring snapped off, flew upwards & grazed my left knuckle through
the bike gloves.

ah, stoopidity+low end components........



(*this was pre-Dec.1 1999)



--
it's all a creeping beige conspiracy

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"cfsmtb" wrote in message
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glass bottle, ran straight over it at speed. Bottle popped out
from under the rear wheel, into moving traffic. Luckily it missed any
cars and was duly smashed to a million ittsybittsy bits by a big
truck.

Sheesh! all this time I've been blaming drunk
bogans for the smashed glass on the roads...
It was cyclists all along!! :-P

a tooth from the middle ring snapped off, flew upwards & grazed
my left knuckle through the bike gloves.

That's crazy!

hippy
lost many freewheel teeth, none of the body piercing variety...

"cfsmtb" wrote in message
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glass bottle, ran straight over it at speed. Bottle popped out
from under the rear wheel, into moving traffic. Luckily it missed any
cars and was duly smashed to a million ittsybittsy bits by a big
truck.

Sheesh! all this time I've been blaming drunk
bogans for the smashed glass on the roads...
It was cyclists all along!! :-P

a tooth from the middle ring snapped off, flew upwards & grazed
my left knuckle through the bike gloves.

That's crazy!

hippy
lost many freewheel teeth, none of the body piercing variety...

I agree with what was said about it simply being an accident........good
example was stone chips caused by car coming the other way (very common)...

After actually trying to launch a few on the quiet bits of road on the way
to and from work today, I would say that it could only be an accident as for
the life of me I couldn't actually get any rocks airborne intentionally!!!
I was thinking that if I could work out where to run them over that they
could become a fortunate "accident" when riding past some deserving moron in
a car who has just tried to run me off the road and has then got stuck at
the lights.

Although there would be a ton of factors that would need to come together
for this to happen.......

1. I would have to get cut off (actually fairly likely)
2. Moron would have to get stuck at lights (I love it when this happens)
3. Rock of suitable size/shape would have to be adjacent to and within
the length of the moron's car (this is where I am starting to stretch it a
bit)
4. Would have to run over rock just right to launch it in the right
direction (From my efforts today, this reduces probability to approx zero)
5. Car would preferably be new, shiny, and expensive (odds are
even......morons drive all types of cars)

oh well........you gotta have dreams......

Gags

P.S. I used the word moron as it is a lot less offensive than what I call
these people in reality

I agree with what was said about it simply being an accident........good
example was stone chips caused by car coming the other way (very common)...

After actually trying to launch a few on the quiet bits of road on the way
to and from work today, I would say that it could only be an accident as for
the life of me I couldn't actually get any rocks airborne intentionally!!!
I was thinking that if I could work out where to run them over that they
could become a fortunate "accident" when riding past some deserving moron in
a car who has just tried to run me off the road and has then got stuck at
the lights.

Although there would be a ton of factors that would need to come together
for this to happen.......

1. I would have to get cut off (actually fairly likely)
2. Moron would have to get stuck at lights (I love it when this happens)
3. Rock of suitable size/shape would have to be adjacent to and within
the length of the moron's car (this is where I am starting to stretch it a
bit)
4. Would have to run over rock just right to launch it in the right
direction (From my efforts today, this reduces probability to approx zero)
5. Car would preferably be new, shiny, and expensive (odds are
even......morons drive all types of cars)

oh well........you gotta have dreams......

Gags

P.S. I used the word moron as it is a lot less offensive than what I call
these people in reality

: Sounds like it is "time to join BNSW" time and get access to their 3rd
: party policy - designed just for situations such as this. You could
: try shifting the fault to RTA (or whoever) but hey have bigger pockets
: than you.
:
: cheers
:
: Col
:

Agree

BNSW membership for you or the whole family is pretty cheap. Gives you 3rd
party property and 3rd party injury.

Pete

: Sounds like it is "time to join BNSW" time and get access to their 3rd
: party policy - designed just for situations such as this. You could
: try shifting the fault to RTA (or whoever) but hey have bigger pockets
: than you.
:
: cheers
:
: Col
:

Agree

BNSW membership for you or the whole family is pretty cheap. Gives you 3rd
party property and 3rd party injury.

Pete

Bicycle NSW membership includes 3rd party insurance.

Check out membership here
http://www.bicyclensw.org.au/modules...ame=Membership

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:09:24 +1000, "Gags"
wrote:

Was riding home today in a bike lane and without aiming for it, I managed to
run over a reasonably sized rock. I'm sure most people have had rocks go
flying at 90 degree or so to the way you are travelling but this one was a
beauty.......went clear across the road and hit a fence still going a
million miles an hour.

I am about 97kg and run my tyres at 110psi and it seems that when I do
launch a rock, it goes at approximately warp factor 9. I have had a couple
hit parked cars, fences, houses, etc.

My concern is I wonder where I stand legally if a rock that is unwillingly
launched causes some damage (eg. paint chip on car, smashed window, etc.)
Or worse still, what if I managed a "one in a million" rock that took out
someone's eye?? I would guess that if a car did this, their compulsory
third party insurance would cover it but obviously that is not the case for
a cyclist.

My thoughts are that the council responsible for the road would be the ones
responsible but I am no legal-O??

Anyone got any ideas??

Gags