How Ed Dolan and Mike Vandeman came to dominate their newsgroups

It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it was not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and Vandeman
does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do not step on other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away and
before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and Vandeman. I
think both of us in our separate ways serve as a catalyst for a few others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and finally we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly not my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what to do
about it?

I encourage others to post to these newsgroups. Vandeman and I will stay on
our own threads as we have always done. Neither of us interfere with other
threads that are not up our alley. Vandeman is far more focused than I am
and is almost a one-note Johnny. I am more far ranging but I make it a point
not to interfere with on topic messages. I would like to see both ARBR and
RBS realize their full potential. There is simply no reason for others not
to be posting to these two newsgroups.

RBM is the standard we should be going by. It is a very large newsgroup and
every idiot in the world is posting to it. It is impossible for any one
person to dominate that newsgroup. But whether a newsgroup is large or small
should not matter as long as everyone respects the threads. I repeat, I do
not step on other's threads unless they are up my alley and neither does
Vandeman. Others should feel free to post away to their heart's content on
ARBR and RBS. We can never be like RBM in size, but we can make up for it in
quality.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it was not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and Vandeman
does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do not step on other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away and
before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and Vandeman. I
think both of us in our separate ways serve as a catalyst for a few others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and finally we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly not my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what to do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

I encourage others to post to these newsgroups. Vandeman and I will stay on
our own threads as we have always done. Neither of us interfere with other
threads that are not up our alley. Vandeman is far more focused than I am
and is almost a one-note Johnny. I am more far ranging but I make it a point
not to interfere with on topic messages. I would like to see both ARBR and
RBS realize their full potential. There is simply no reason for others not
to be posting to these two newsgroups.

RBM is the standard we should be going by. It is a very large newsgroup and
every idiot in the world is posting to it. It is impossible for any one
person to dominate that newsgroup. But whether a newsgroup is large or small
should not matter as long as everyone respects the threads. I repeat, I do
not step on other's threads unless they are up my alley and neither does
Vandeman. Others should feel free to post away to their heart's content on
ARBR and RBS. We can never be like RBM in size, but we can make up for it in
quality.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"JimmyMac" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it was
not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and Vandeman
does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do not step on
other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away and
before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and Vandeman. I
think both of us in our separate ways serve as a catalyst for a few
others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and finally
we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly not
my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what to
do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group. It
would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



I encourage others to post to these newsgroups. Vandeman and I will stay
on
our own threads as we have always done. Neither of us interfere with
other
threads that are not up our alley. Vandeman is far more focused than I am
and is almost a one-note Johnny. I am more far ranging but I make it a
point
not to interfere with on topic messages. I would like to see both ARBR
and
RBS realize their full potential. There is simply no reason for others
not
to be posting to these two newsgroups.

RBM is the standard we should be going by. It is a very large newsgroup
and
every idiot in the world is posting to it. It is impossible for any one
person to dominate that newsgroup. But whether a newsgroup is large or
small
should not matter as long as everyone respects the threads. I repeat, I
do
not step on other's threads unless they are up my alley and neither does
Vandeman. Others should feel free to post away to their heart's content
on
ARBR and RBS. We can never be like RBM in size, but we can make up for it
in
quality.

"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:QaCdncFXmoL6PATZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"JimmyMac" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it
was not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and
Vandeman does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do
not step on other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away
and before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and
Vandeman. I think both of us in our separate ways serve as a
catalyst for a few others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and
finally we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly
not my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what
to do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group.
It would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.


Ahhhhhhhh Blow Me.








Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



I encourage others to post to these newsgroups. Vandeman and I will
stay on
our own threads as we have always done. Neither of us interfere with
other
threads that are not up our alley. Vandeman is far more focused than
I am and is almost a one-note Johnny. I am more far ranging but I
make it a point
not to interfere with on topic messages. I would like to see both
ARBR and
RBS realize their full potential. There is simply no reason for
others not
to be posting to these two newsgroups.

RBM is the standard we should be going by. It is a very large
newsgroup and
every idiot in the world is posting to it. It is impossible for any
one person to dominate that newsgroup. But whether a newsgroup is
large or small
should not matter as long as everyone respects the threads. I
repeat, I do
not step on other's threads unless they are up my alley and neither
does Vandeman. Others should feel free to post away to their heart's
content on
ARBR and RBS. We can never be like RBM in size, but we can make up
for it in
quality.





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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it was
not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and
Vandeman
does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do not step on
other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away and
before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and Vandeman.
I
think both of us in our separate ways serve as a catalyst for a few
others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and finally
we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly not
my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what to
do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group. It
would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.

Perhaps discussions of gearing, frame types, cycling routes and such is
EXACTLY what people post for. There a million sites for "entertainment". Why
read about the non-sexual proclamations of a self-absorbed individual when I
want to know what gearing I should have when visiting the Blue Ridge
Parkway?

"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:WbmdnaKzb8RdfgfZnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:QaCdncFXmoL6PATZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"JimmyMac" wrote in message
ps.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it
was not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and
Vandeman does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do
not step on other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go
away and before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan
and Vandeman. I think both of us in our separate ways serve as a
catalyst for a few others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and
finally we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is
certainly not my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But
what to do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to
do. Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull
group. It would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS
expecting some entertainment.


Ahhhhhhhh Blow Me.

This guy supposedly has a Ph.D. degree from the University of Illinois
in electrical engineering. Now you know why I do not reserve
unqualified respect for those with higher degrees. Jerks are jerks no
matter what!

He was also a former Marine and that now is apparently the kind of
person he has chosen to revert to for purposes of these newsgroups.
Once a grunt, always a grunt! "Semper Fi" you jar head!



I was just wondering how easy it was to under your skin.

Hardly a challenge, it was easier that I thought




Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



I encourage others to post to these newsgroups. Vandeman and I
will stay on
our own threads as we have always done. Neither of us interfere
with other
threads that are not up our alley. Vandeman is far more focused
than I am and is almost a one-note Johnny. I am more far ranging
but I make it a point
not to interfere with on topic messages. I would like to see both
ARBR and
RBS realize their full potential. There is simply no reason for
others not
to be posting to these two newsgroups.

RBM is the standard we should be going by. It is a very large
newsgroup and
every idiot in the world is posting to it. It is impossible for
any one person to dominate that newsgroup. But whether a newsgroup
is large or small
should not matter as long as everyone respects the threads. I
repeat, I do
not step on other's threads unless they are up my alley and
neither does Vandeman. Others should feel free to post away to
their heart's content on
ARBR and RBS. We can never be like RBM in size, but we can make up
for it in
quality.





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"S Curtiss" wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
ps.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it was
not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and
Vandeman
does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do not step on
other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away and
before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and Vandeman.
I
think both of us in our separate ways serve as a catalyst for a few
others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and
finally we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly not
my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what to
do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group. It
would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.

Perhaps discussions of gearing, frame types, cycling routes and such is
EXACTLY what people post for. There a million sites for "entertainment".
Why read about the non-sexual proclamations of a self-absorbed individual
when I want to know what gearing I should have when visiting the Blue
Ridge Parkway?

Nope, I cannot believe there are any humans who are so dead that they would
limit themselves to what you propose. Either be a complete human being or be
gone! I know better than you what is good for you!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:QaCdncFXmoL6PATZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"JimmyMac" wrote in message
ps.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it
was not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and
Vandeman does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do
not step on other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away
and before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and
Vandeman. I think both of us in our separate ways serve as a
catalyst for a few others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and
finally we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly
not my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what
to do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group.
It would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.


Ahhhhhhhh Blow Me.

This guy supposedly has a Ph.D. degree from the University of Illinois in
electrical engineering. Now you know why I do not reserve unqualified
respect for those with higher degrees. Jerks are jerks no matter what!

He was also a former Marine and that now is apparently the kind of person he
has chosen to revert to for purposes of these newsgroups. Once a grunt,
always a grunt! "Semper Fi" you jar head!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



I encourage others to post to these newsgroups. Vandeman and I will
stay on
our own threads as we have always done. Neither of us interfere with
other
threads that are not up our alley. Vandeman is far more focused than
I am and is almost a one-note Johnny. I am more far ranging but I
make it a point
not to interfere with on topic messages. I would like to see both
ARBR and
RBS realize their full potential. There is simply no reason for
others not
to be posting to these two newsgroups.

RBM is the standard we should be going by. It is a very large
newsgroup and
every idiot in the world is posting to it. It is impossible for any
one person to dominate that newsgroup. But whether a newsgroup is
large or small
should not matter as long as everyone respects the threads. I
repeat, I do
not step on other's threads unless they are up my alley and neither
does Vandeman. Others should feel free to post away to their heart's
content on
ARBR and RBS. We can never be like RBM in size, but we can make up
for it in
quality.

"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:WbmdnaKzb8RdfgfZnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:
[...]
Ahhhhhhhh Blow Me.

This guy supposedly has a Ph.D. degree from the University of Illinois
in electrical engineering. Now you know why I do not reserve
unqualified respect for those with higher degrees. Jerks are jerks no
matter what!

He was also a former Marine and that now is apparently the kind of
person he has chosen to revert to for purposes of these newsgroups.
Once a grunt, always a grunt! "Semper Fi" you jar head!

I was just wondering how easy it was to [get] under your skin.

Hardly a challenge, it was easier that I thought [.]

It is not possible for anyone in cyberspace to get under my skin. Everything
is tit for tat with me. That is all it is and all it can ever be. After all,
there is real life and then there is Usenet. Only a fool would confuse and
conflate the two.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

PS. By the way, you might want to learn how to edit your posts. Others on
these newsgroups have me in their kill file and that is where you will soon
be yourself if you continue to quote me in full in your every message.
Unlike you, many others simply cannot stand a little contention. They want
all to be peace and light in their universe.

PS2. I am the best editor Usenet has ever known. It comes from my
professional training as a librarian. Follow my example and you will never
go far from wrong.

"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:S5mdnQfZj8MUZwfZnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:WbmdnaKzb8RdfgfZnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:
[...]
Ahhhhhhhh Blow Me.

This guy supposedly has a Ph.D. degree from the University of
Illinois in electrical engineering. Now you know why I do not
reserve unqualified respect for those with higher degrees. Jerks are
jerks no matter what!

He was also a former Marine and that now is apparently the kind of
person he has chosen to revert to for purposes of these newsgroups.
Once a grunt, always a grunt! "Semper Fi" you jar head!

I was just wondering how easy it was to [get] under your skin.

Hardly a challenge, it was easier that I thought [.]

It is not possible for anyone in cyberspace to get under my skin.
Everything is tit for tat with me. That is all it is and all it can
ever be. After all, there is real life and then there is Usenet. Only
a fool would confuse and conflate the two.



Conan,

You got so upset are my remarks that YOU sent a e-mail to me, here it
is:


"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:ccqdnVmFSNiu0xXZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


Ahhhhh Blow Me
[...]

**** you too Chris Foster!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



Then I replied, And once again, you had a hiss fit, here it is:


John,

Do not be sending any messages to me at my email address. Whatever it is
we have to say to one another can be done on Usenet where all the world
can see it and can draw their own conclusions.

You resorted to an obscenity without any reason for doing so. Like you I
spent quite a bit of time in the military and so I know EXACTLY how to
respond to such remarks. When I get a '**** you', then you get back a
'**** you too'! It is hard to believe you have any higher degrees as you
still seem to be acting like a marine grunt.

Regards,

Ed

PS. It is OK if you want to post the above message to Usenet - and we can
carry on from there.



So, I think I did a GREAT job of getting under you skin.





Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

PS. By the way, you might want to learn how to edit your posts.
Others on these newsgroups have me in their kill file and that is
where you will soon be yourself if you continue to quote me in full in
your every message. Unlike you, many others simply cannot stand a
little contention. They want all to be peace and light in their
universe.

PS2. I am the best editor Usenet has ever known. It comes from my
professional training as a librarian. Follow my example and you will
never go far from wrong.





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