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Do you feel like biking makes you a loser?
On Jul 6, 5:41*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote: KingOfTheApes aka Comandante Banana aka donquixote1954 wrote: ...I don't suppose the Leader of the Free World... Who is that? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful I think is some sort of powerful monkey who holds the key to the survival of all other monkeys (some 6.5 billion of them)... http://www.ukuleleman.net/uploaded_i...an-718799..jpg |
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Do you feel like biking makes you a loser?
(someone who doesn't understand my metaphors, do you?)
Originally Posted by donnamb "I'm a pretty common person and I still have no idea what you are talking about." Well, it goes this way. In this jungle where we live there's a king of the jungle (the lion) that runs the kingdom according to his tastes and appetites (leaving no room for the monkeys to ride bikes), but there's a monkey that had it, and challenged the Law of the Jungle (SUVs rule). He's got two choices: use violence (become another lion) and risk being eaten, or... share his banana with the hungry lion... Thus the Banana Revolution becomes the way of the nonviolent, clever monkeys figthting for survival in the jungle. "Never go in the jungle without a banana!" That's another T-shirt slogan... |
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Do you feel like biking makes you a loser?
Originally Posted by Treespeed
"Can you say tangent? No one brought up the bible and your banishment from the garden of eden metaphor has nothing to do with cycling advocacy. This seems to be a logical fallacy that you engage in with some regularity; it doesn’t follow that because one metaphor is bad, that your metaphor is good. You haven’t established your main argument that demonizing SUV drivers gets more people to ride bicycles, or worse yet that confused animal metaphors convinces people to ride bikes." That I have convince you, dude, to ride bicycles would be stupid. This is a Bicycle Forum which you seem to forget when defending SUVs so much. This is for the 99.6% who don't ride bikes to work and elsewhere, possibly because they feel intimidated. Many of them are "survivors," in the economic sense of the word. My metaphor is also perfect because the cars and particularly the SUVs keep the lion's share of the road, and then often roar (honk, shout) to intimidate you. It's not demonizing them, but showing they are playing the game of the corporations, which is making you buy their "wares," ie. Stupid Unnecessary Vehicles, Oil and Insurance, not Smart Utility Bikes, which are truly utility vehicles --only that they don't feed the system as much. Thus the name of Hungry Lion becomes evident. Then the selling point to the poor is obvious: "The bike is the vehicle to financial freedom in a jungle where the lion is after you..." Hey, grab a banana and hit the road in an organized way! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The monkey can live on peanuts and banana (a bicycle would do), but the lion wants the monkey to be a big spender (big houses and SUVs) so he gets fed. |
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Do you feel like biking makes you a loser?
Originally Posted by Bekologist
"i was controlling the lane yesterday morning on the way to work, approaching a left turn in a left turn only lane, and a motorist, peturbed I was slower and ahead of him, guns it, crosses the double yellow approaching a blind corner, drove over a raised barrier and cut ahead of me halfway thru the intersection, then did the paltry 'bumper dive' threat to show me I wasn't supossed to be inhibiting his speed...." That's INTIMIDATION, but you are not the only one. This one says, "You are not the only one being intimidated by the predators!" http://www.finksphotos.com/images/bi...elle%20web.jpg |
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OT: Political Commentary
KingOfTheApes aka Comandante Banana aka donquixote1954 wrote:
On Jul 6, 5:41 pm, Tom Sherman wrote: KingOfTheApes aka Comandante Banana aka donquixote1954 wrote: ...I don't suppose the Leader of the Free World... Who is that? I think is some sort of powerful monkey who holds the key to the survival of all other monkeys (some 6.5 billion of them)... http://www.ukuleleman.net/uploaded_i...man-718799.jpg I do not believe that the citizens of other free countries consider the occupant of the US White House to be their leader, especially the current occupant. Many residents of the US feel the same way due to the current occupant winning election 5 to 4 along partisan lines in the US Supreme Court and the irregularities of the 2004 election. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Do you feel like biking makes you a loser?
KingOfTheApes aka Comandante Banana aka donquixote1954 wrote:
(someone who doesn't understand my metaphors, do you?) Originally Posted by donnamb "I'm a pretty common person and I still have no idea what you are talking about." Well, it goes this way. In this jungle where we live there's a king of the jungle (the lion)... butbutbut, the elephant is the real king of the jungle. Lions live in open savanna country. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Do you feel like biking makes you a loser?
On Jul 7, 5:05 pm, DennisTheBald wrote:
On Jul 3, 3:23 pm, KingOfTheApes wrote: Well, society doesn't hold cyclists in high esteem... I would think that it would be motoring about that would make one feel like a loser (with a capital L)... the sort of weak and infirm git that couldn't haul their own ass across the surface of the planet to save their soul. The sort of incorrigible lout that actually buys into Madison avenue's drivel about how owning a particular brand of auto will make them feel good about themselves and earn them the envy if not respect of the other people that witness them driving. The sort of murderous ******* that kills 44,000 USofAliens every freaking year. Yeah, going about on a bike causes me to think less of myself than if I drove a car, you bet... keep talking like that and you'll never evolve into a sentient being you stupid monkey. It's NOT by hiding that feeling that we can fix the problem. Obviously SUVs selling point is that they make you feel powerful and important. "You are the King of the Jungle." Then you have the bike at the other of the spectrum. "You are a survivor in the jungle." So in order we can change that we must make the lion (the King of the Jungle) look stupid and ridiculous... How? Make him eat banana. The monkey comes out a winner, not a loser. |
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Would you favor bringing bike planners from Holland?
While we can't get our act together, the Dutch are going around by
bikes without much controversy about the need for bike lanes, paths and other bike facilities. Why can't we hire some of their bike planners to see if they can make America bike friendly? New Paths DOT must make sure its' bike planners have an important say in how new bridge paths and their approaches are built. The opening of the Manhattan Bridge path demonstrated that it takes time and energy to make proper traffic improvements like those now in place on the Manhattan side. DOT Bicycle planners should be involved at every stage of Williamsburg and Manhattan Bridge bike paths construction to ensure that cyclists can easily get to and from them when the paths open. http://www.transalt.org/files/newsro...bikelanes.html But I do propose another alternative: Open all right hand lanes to bikes and reduce the speed limit on them to 20MPH. That would be the "American way." |
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Do you feel like biking makes you a loser?
Originally Posted by st0ut
"you over-estimate the role of planners. Our cities are fine for bike use as is. Your fundamental lack of understanding of why Holland is a bike friedly area is astounding. Also it is farily mythical as well. As you have never been on the A-5 in a traffic jam on the way to Utrect. What works in Amsterdam does not work in Vienen. what you are going to ride from Vienen to Utrect every day to goto a store? No neither do the dutch so they take a car." In Holland you've got choices... Are you scared of the word? If we get one lane, cars keep two (assuming three lanes minimum), plus the slow lane on the right. If the lanes are put to good use, passing only on the left, they don't lose any speed, but possibly gain from slower cars keeping to the right and middle lane. I voted for the American way, but I still think we need some traffic planners from Europe, not just about bikes, but to fix the whole traffic chaos we've got here. I wonder what they think about us, uncivilized? poll... http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=1#post7020948 |
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Do you feel like biking makes you a loser?
On Jul 7, 7:04*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote: KingOfTheApes aka Comandante Banana aka donquixote1954 wrote: (someone who doesn't understand my metaphors, do you?) Originally Posted by donnamb "I'm a pretty common person and I still have no idea what you are talking about." Well, it goes this way. In this jungle where we live there's a king of the jungle (the lion)... butbutbut, the elephant is the real king of the jungle. Lions live in open savanna country. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful In a way, you are right. The elephant is now the king of the jungle... "If the Republicans are represented by an elephant and the Democrats by a donkey, why can't we be represented by a smart monkey?" (These metaphors are a pretty accurate picture of certain things happening in "the jungle," but don't tell you if the king of the jungle lives in the jungle or not. We are not monkeys either, but are close enough) |
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