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Old June 3rd 10, 06:33 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw


And that right there, readers, is the most bizarre headline we've
ever typed.

Noted -- noted! -- anti-mountain bike crusader Mike Vandeman was
"arrested yesterday and charged with assault with a deadly weapon
after he attacked a pair of mountain bikers with a handsaw."

Cyclelicio.us reports:

According to UC police, a pair of mountain bikers were cycling on
a fire road in the hills above the UC Berkeley campus. A hiker —
Mike Vandeman — struck one of the cyclists with a saw, cutting him
across the chest. East Bay mountain bikers have reported other similar
attacks on them, and some mountain bikers I know have expressed concern
for their personal safety when Mike Vandeman is around.

The harrowing incident, according to UC Berkeley police, happened on
May 15.

Why does Vanderman loathe those who ride on the dirty and dusty trails?
Well, maybe because it'sbad for the trails and mother nature? Or
because it conflicts with his desire to hike on anti-bike trails he
wants to himself. Or because purple pony princesses like salty cracker
neon beets. Who knows, exactly. (If you guessed 'all of the above,' you
would be correct. Seriously, have a looksie.)

Cyclelico.us goes on to point out that Vanderman gained gained attention
in the 90s via his Usenet postings to wreck.bikes in which he painted
mountain bikers as "addicted, narcissistic, violently insane liars."

UC Berkeley police urge other victims or witnesses to come forward.
Call the University of California Police Department Criminal Investigation
Bureau at 510- 642-0472 from 8 a.m.- p.m., or 510)-642-6760 during off hours.

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Old June 3rd 10, 08:14 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Edward Dolan
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Default Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw


"Bob Berger" wrote in message
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[...]
Why does Vanderman loathe those who ride on the dirty and dusty trails?
Well, maybe because it'sbad for the trails and mother nature? Or
because it conflicts with his desire to hike on anti-bike trails he
wants to himself. Or because purple pony princesses like salty cracker
neon beets. Who knows, exactly. (If you guessed 'all of the above,' you
would be correct. Seriously, have a looksie.)


If Bob Berger were anything but one of the supreme assholes of the world, he
would know exactly why Mr. Vandeman does not want mountain bikes on hiking
trails. But Bob Berger, besides being a stupid asshole, is also a lazy
asshole. Mr. Vandeman must have posted at least 10,000 messages on these
newsgroups telling us where he stands and why.

Cyclelico.us goes on to point out that Vanderman gained gained attention
in the 90s via his Usenet postings to wreck.bikes in which he painted
mountain bikers as "addicted, narcissistic, violently insane liars."


That is exactly what they are. Who could possibly deny it! And Bob Berger is
an example of the species. All he does is lie all day long.

UC Berkeley police urge other victims or witnesses to come forward.
Call the University of California Police Department Criminal Investigation
Bureau at 510- 642-0472 from 8 a.m.- p.m., or 510)-642-6760 during off
hours.


Better shut up Bob Berger as there are laws against slander and calumny. If
you aren't careful, you will be standing before a judge in a court room
trying to explain yourself.

****ing Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



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Old June 3rd 10, 08:37 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:14:18 -0500, "Edward Dolan"
wrote:

Mr. Vandeman must have posted at least 10,000 messages on these
newsgroups telling us where he stands and why.


You make that sound like a good thing. LOL Pity the poor schlub whose
job it is to mine those posts for evidence of Vandeman's inability to
reason. Maybe the prosecutor will print out the most damning bits and
wheel them into court ala Hannibal Lector. :-)

Wayne
  #4  
Old June 3rd 10, 08:46 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jeff Strickland[_2_]
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Default Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw


"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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"Bob Berger" wrote in message
...
[...]
Why does Vanderman loathe those who ride on the dirty and dusty trails?
Well, maybe because it'sbad for the trails and mother nature? Or
because it conflicts with his desire to hike on anti-bike trails he
wants to himself. Or because purple pony princesses like salty cracker
neon beets. Who knows, exactly. (If you guessed 'all of the above,' you
would be correct. Seriously, have a looksie.)


If Bob Berger were anything but one of the supreme assholes of the world,
he would know exactly why Mr. Vandeman does not want mountain bikes on
hiking trails. But Bob Berger, besides being a stupid asshole, is also a
lazy asshole. Mr. Vandeman must have posted at least 10,000 messages on
these newsgroups telling us where he stands and why.


What he says about where he stands, and where he _really_ stands are
apparently two different things.

I've been telling you for years, more than 10, where he stands. Now it
appears I am right. He wants all trails closed to all visitors. Period.

He'll even engage in physical assault -- both active and passive -- to bring
harm to people in the name of protecting AT THE VERY MOST 0.004% of the
environment.



Cyclelico.us goes on to point out that Vanderman gained gained attention
in the 90s via his Usenet postings to wreck.bikes in which he painted
mountain bikers as "addicted, narcissistic, violently insane liars."


That is exactly what they are. Who could possibly deny it! And Bob Berger
is an example of the species. All he does is lie all day long.

UC Berkeley police urge other victims or witnesses to come forward.
Call the University of California Police Department Criminal
Investigation
Bureau at 510- 642-0472 from 8 a.m.- p.m., or 510)-642-6760 during off
hours.


Better shut up Bob Berger as there are laws against slander and calumny.
If you aren't careful, you will be standing before a judge in a court room
trying to explain yourself.


There is no slander in reporting the quote that police used.

Only a hermit living in a cave could dream up such an assertion. Maybe you
should have pursued marriage, kids, an dmeaningful job, and homeownership
instead of the education that has clearly failed you.








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Old June 3rd 10, 09:06 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment
Edward Dolan
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wrote in message
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:14:18 -0500, "Edward Dolan"
wrote:

Mr. Vandeman must have posted at least 10,000 messages on these
newsgroups telling us where he stands and why.


You make that sound like a good thing. LOL Pity the poor schlub whose
job it is to mine those posts for evidence of Vandeman's inability to
reason. Maybe the prosecutor will print out the most damning bits and
wheel them into court ala Hannibal Lector. :-)


There is nothing wrong with Mr. Vandeman's reasoning. Au contraire, it is
the idiot mountain bikers who are forever displaying a lack of reasoning
ability.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #6  
Old June 3rd 10, 09:20 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Edward Dolan
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Default Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw


"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
...

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...

"Bob Berger" wrote in message
...
[...]
Why does Vanderman loathe those who ride on the dirty and dusty trails?
Well, maybe because it'sbad for the trails and mother nature? Or
because it conflicts with his desire to hike on anti-bike trails he
wants to himself. Or because purple pony princesses like salty cracker
neon beets. Who knows, exactly. (If you guessed 'all of the above,' you
would be correct. Seriously, have a looksie.)


If Bob Berger were anything but one of the supreme assholes of the world,
he would know exactly why Mr. Vandeman does not want mountain bikes on
hiking trails. But Bob Berger, besides being a stupid asshole, is also a
lazy asshole. Mr. Vandeman must have posted at least 10,000 messages on
these newsgroups telling us where he stands and why.


What he says about where he stands, and where he _really_ stands are
apparently two different things.


Wow - a mind reader!

I've been telling you for years, more than 10, where he stands. Now it
appears I am right. He wants all trails closed to all visitors. Period.


I read him differently than you.

He'll even engage in physical assault -- both active and passive -- to
bring harm to people in the name of protecting AT THE VERY MOST 0.004% of
the environment.


Maybe he was defending himself from an assault. Or did that never occur to
you? But rush to judgment. That is what you are good at.
[...]

Better shut up Bob Berger as there are laws against slander and calumny.
If you aren't careful, you will be standing before a judge in a court
room trying to explain yourself.


There is no slander in reporting the quote that police used.


Bob Berger is a bully who makes threats. He is your typical mountain biker -
a scowflaw and a criminal.

Only a hermit living in a cave could dream up such an assertion. Maybe you
should have pursued marriage, kids, an dmeaningful job, and homeownership
instead of the education that has clearly failed you.


Everything you cite above would surely have failed me, but not my education.
I prove that with my every post.

The gang bang mentality of these newsgroups is nauseating. Try not to be
part of it or I will question your fitness for being a citizen in a
republic.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #7  
Old June 3rd 10, 09:21 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment
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There is nothing wrong with Mr. Vandeman's reasoning. Au contraire, it is


i started to read this all but couldn't get past the part where we
actually refer to him as Mr. He is a sociopath
  #8  
Old June 3rd 10, 09:29 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jeff Strickland[_2_]
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Default Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw


"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
...

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...

"Bob Berger" wrote in message
...
[...]
Why does Vanderman loathe those who ride on the dirty and dusty trails?
Well, maybe because it'sbad for the trails and mother nature? Or
because it conflicts with his desire to hike on anti-bike trails he
wants to himself. Or because purple pony princesses like salty cracker
neon beets. Who knows, exactly. (If you guessed 'all of the above,' you
would be correct. Seriously, have a looksie.)

If Bob Berger were anything but one of the supreme assholes of the
world, he would know exactly why Mr. Vandeman does not want mountain
bikes on hiking trails. But Bob Berger, besides being a stupid asshole,
is also a lazy asshole. Mr. Vandeman must have posted at least 10,000
messages on these newsgroups telling us where he stands and why.


What he says about where he stands, and where he _really_ stands are
apparently two different things.


Wow - a mind reader!

I've been telling you for years, more than 10, where he stands. Now it
appears I am right. He wants all trails closed to all visitors. Period.


I read him differently than you.


And THAT is your folly.



He'll even engage in physical assault -- both active and passive -- to
bring harm to people in the name of protecting AT THE VERY MOST 0.004% of
the environment.


Maybe he was defending himself from an assault. Or did that never occur to
you? But rush to judgment. That is what you are good at.
[...]


If he was protecting himself, he would be in jail for infllicting injury and
damage to persons and property.





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Old June 3rd 10, 09:31 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment
Jeff Strickland[_2_]
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wrote in message
...

There is nothing wrong with Mr. Vandeman's reasoning. Au contraire, it is


i started to read this all but couldn't get past the part where we
actually refer to him as Mr. He is a sociopath


He's still a Mr., as opposed to a Mrs. or Ms., or Miss.

He's a pussy, to be sure, but that's different.






  #10  
Old June 3rd 10, 09:47 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment
Edward Dolan
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"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...

There is nothing wrong with Mr. Vandeman's reasoning. Au contraire, it
is


i started to read this all but couldn't get past the part where we
actually refer to him as Mr. He is a sociopath


He's still a Mr., as opposed to a Mrs. or Ms., or Miss.

He's a pussy, to be sure, but that's different.


Anything but. He has virtually stood alone doing battle with the most
scurrilous lot of slobs the world has ever known - mountain bikers. He says
**** 'em and that is what I say too!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


 




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