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Old April 16th 08, 12:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,alt.planning.urban,ba.transportation
Tom Sherman[_2_]
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Default Does ANYTHING put Jack May on a collision course with reality?

Bill Zaumen wrote:
"Jack May" writes:

"Jym Dyer" wrote in message
...
Jack May's factoids:
=v= So, bottom line, Jack May's numbers are completely wrong
and the opposite is true. As usual. And that's not even taking
into account the many and massive hidden costs and subsidies
that prop up car transportation. Not to mention the heavy bond
debt that we'll be saddled with to pay for Prop 1B.


You found nothing and you say I am wrong. I found the data. That is not a
proof of anything which is obvious to most people

I am not a free worker to find things for people that are not good at
finding things. Keep searching, it is there.


Given how much you post that is completely wrong, or at least seriously
hyped, nobody will believe you if you don't produce the references to
back up your statements.

As odd as it seems, I have to agree with Bill Zaumen on this point.

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Old April 16th 08, 03:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,alt.planning.urban,ba.transportation
Eric Vey
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Default Does ANYTHING put Jack May on a collision course with reality?

Tom Sherman wrote:
Bill Zaumen wrote:
"Jack May" writes:

"Jym Dyer" wrote in message
...
Jack May's factoids:
=v= So, bottom line, Jack May's numbers are completely wrong
and the opposite is true. As usual. And that's not even taking
into account the many and massive hidden costs and subsidies
that prop up car transportation. Not to mention the heavy bond
debt that we'll be saddled with to pay for Prop 1B.

You found nothing and you say I am wrong. I found the data. That is
not a proof of anything which is obvious to most people

I am not a free worker to find things for people that are not good at
finding things. Keep searching, it is there.


Given how much you post that is completely wrong, or at least seriously
hyped, nobody will believe you if you don't produce the references to
back up your statements.

As odd as it seems, I have to agree with Bill Zaumen on this point.


My local public transportation company put these stats on their website.
I thought that the operating expense per passenger mile was telling.
About the same as what the IRS allows for business expenses.
General Information

Service area: Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties.
Population of service area: 1.83 million.
Size of service area: 2,500 square miles.
Operating budget: $113,807,706.
Operating expense per passenger mile: $0.47.
Ridership Facts

Weekday average passenger count: 84,061
Annual passenger count: 26,067,842 (2006)
Breakdown of ridership: 60 percent female; 40 percent male
Percentage of riders using bus to get to work: 73 percent
Percentage of riders with no other form of transportation: 40 percent
Percentage of riders who use the bus more than five times a week: 60 percent
Fleet Information

Number of buses: 290
Number of fixed-route links: 65
Number of bus stops in system: 5,267
Miles fleet travels on average day: 51,886 miles
Miles one bus travels in a year: 62,245 miles
Diesel fuel used in average year: 3.974 million gallons
Miles per gallon for each bus: 3.9
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Old April 17th 08, 06:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,alt.planning.urban,ba.transportation
Jym Dyer
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Default Does ANYTHING put Jack May on a collision course with reality?

http://www.mtc.ca.gov/

Jack May's 5% figure is nowhere to be found, nor is his "two
thirds" figure. There is a *forecast* that 61% of the MTC's

It[']s on their site and other places. I have read it. You
will probably need to do some googling like I did.


=v= My point is that I looked on that site, "googling" and all.
I spent a lot of time with it, in fact. Your numbers are not
there. Provide a more specific reference if you want anyone
to believe you.

Bay area funding comes from multiple sources, not just the
Federal highway funds.


=v= Yes, I know that. That is manifest in what I wrote, which
mentions multiple sources. Do you have a reading comprehension
problem?

The Prop B shift in funding because it widely recognized in
Sacramento that transit has destroyed our tra[n]sportation
infrastructure.


=v= Absolute blithering nonsense. Feel free to find a cite to
back it up, though. (Note that all your cites so far this year
have *disproven* the points you cited them to support, though.)
_Jym_

 




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