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Old February 2nd 07, 05:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
Jeff
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the discrepancy between predicted maximum heart rate and observed can be due
to caffeine,
a cup of coffee before exercise can raise your heart rate 10-20 beats above
your "ceiling" but it's the rate without any caffeine in your system what
the formula predicts
there are other stimulants (tea, coke, etc) that contain significant amounts
of caffeine
Jeff


"donquijote1954" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey, that I knew. What is missing in this report though is who among
humans are to blame. See, NOT ALL HUMANS POLLUTE: some drive Stupid
Unnecessary Vehicles while others ride bicycles. And how about those
who --like me-- want to ride a bike, but find there's no safe place
for it. It's a frightful jungle out there, you know. So we must sit
back and swallow in disgust reports like this that blame all humans.
But I say to these so called experts: Hey guys, it's not "humans,"
it's the lions of the jungle that ride SUVs to satisfy their
Napoleonic complex, and it's those who can change things, but rather
decide to spend a fortune in extravagant projects. Well, this is
Napoleon himself...

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/...h_napoleon.jpg

(Bush and Napoleon... http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen04102003.html)


HOW THE LION BENEFITS FROM THE LITTLE ANIMALS' POVERTY

One day all the little animals went up to the King of the Jungle and
complained about their poverty, and in particular about the fact that
every time, during the dry season, they had to travel long distances
to drink the precious fluid, and demanded a WATER WELL be built for
them... They cited how the resources that they contributed to the
kingdom were wasted in WARS and EXTRAVAGANT PROJECTS to the tastes of
the King... He, however, replied with all kinds of excuses: the lack
of resources, that it wasn't a matter of him not wanting it, but that
it was a matter of "priorities" --which was one of his favorite
words...

Meanwhile, an Owl --who had very good eyes-- had been observing life
in the jungle, and thought this way: "Every time there's a dry season
the little animals must come to the little dirty waterhole where the
Lion waits for them... Had they been well fed and strong, he would
have had to run after them and even risk resistance. And, more
importantly, the little animals are forced to fight the Lion's wars as
the quick way out of poverty..."

And that's how the Owl landed an important --and well paid-- post in
the brand new Astronomy Department created by the King of the Jungle --
to the effect of exploring life in other planets...

***

PARIS - Officials from 113 countries agreed Thursday that a much-
awaited international report will say that global warming was "very
likely" caused by human activity, delegates to a climate change
conference said. Dozens of scientists and bureaucrats are editing the
new report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in closed-
door meetings in Paris. Their report, which must be unanimously
approved, is to be released Friday.

Two participants, speaking on condition of anonymity because the
meetings are confidential, said the group approved the term "very
likely" in Thursday's sessions. That means they agree that there is a
90 percent chance that global warming is human-caused.

The last report, in 2001, said global warming was "likely" caused by
human activity. There had been speculation that the participants might
try to change the wording this time to "virtually certain," which
means a 99 percent chance.

The report is considered an authoritative document that could
influence government and industrial policy worldwide.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070201/...climate_change

WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

THE BANANA REVOLUTION
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote40



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  #22  
Old February 2nd 07, 05:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
donquijote1954
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On Feb 2, 11:18 am, "lab~rat :-)" wrote:
I think that we can all agree that pollution sucks. Hey, for what
it's worth, I had an article written about me for my work with light
pollution. What the hell are we gonna do about that?

Everybody's sticking their nose into who drives what and some stupid
ice melting that 99% of the world has never seen, what about the way
you can't even see the stars at night from many places in the world.

For generations, people have used the night sky for folklore,
explaining their existence, navigation, etc., and in two generations
we've all but erased the night sky. In the future, the only place
people will be able to see stars is from space or a planetarium.

Will some of you tree huggers get on that one for us? I mean, the sky
is as much a part of nature as a forest...


I can see the hungry lion making a greater profit out of it all, until
the end, when he himself will be finished...

As a star gaze becomes hard to get, they sell a piece of the sky in
your vacation package to Tahiti, where still the sky is clean. As
clean water become more scarce, they sell you water from Fiji. The
problem is when they run out of remote places and the lions start
fighting each other over scarce resources. That's when the predators
eat each other...

"The changing face of the African plains has led to a new and bloody
conflict among its animals, as captured in this documentary. National
Geographic: Predators At War examines conditions in the Mala Mala game
preserve in South Africa. Due to a long standing drought, Mala Mala's
plant life is slowly dying out, leaving the predatory animals of the
region -- among them... More lions, leopards, hyenas and cheetahs --
to prey upon one another in a grim bid for survival."

http://shopping.msn.com/Specs/shp/?itemId=50303194

  #23  
Old February 2nd 07, 05:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,alt.energy.renewable
Joe Fischer
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On 2 Feb 2007 07:55:19 -0800, "donquijote1954"
wrote:

See what they are doing in Canada...


Go away spammer, this is the renewable energy
newsgroup, not a do without, go hungry and freeze
to death newsgroup.

Joe Fischer

  #24  
Old February 2nd 07, 05:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
Joe Fischer
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On Fri, "Jeff" wrote:

the discrepancy between predicted maximum heart rate and observed can be due
to caffeine,


I didn't see any remark about predicted maximum heart rate,
but it should be based on resting heart rate.
Those with a heart rate above 60 are surely
emitting more CO2. :-)

Joe Fischer

  #25  
Old February 2nd 07, 05:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
donquijote1954
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On Feb 2, 11:20 am, "Lee K" wrote:
Climate Change's Carnival Atmosphere


Showmanship, rather than facts, is driving the climate debate - and, yes,
there still is a raging debate despite pronouncements to the contrary by Al
Gore and the mainstream media.


You send your resume here...

US think tank offering cash to dispute UN climate panel: report

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070202...y_070202142458

You could argue that you make black look white, that hot is cold, that
you can make evil look good, and that Bush has been good for the
environment.

  #26  
Old February 2nd 07, 06:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
Lee K
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"donquijote1954" wrote in message
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On Feb 2, 11:20 am, "Lee K" wrote:
Climate Change's Carnival Atmosphere


Showmanship, rather than facts, is driving the climate debate - and, yes,
there still is a raging debate despite pronouncements to the contrary by
Al
Gore and the mainstream media.


You send your resume here...

US think tank offering cash to dispute UN climate panel: report

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070202...y_070202142458

You could argue that you make black look white, that hot is cold, that
you can make evil look good, and that Bush has been good for the
environment.


And you could pose as a big mouth bass with a hook in its mouth, you're so
gullible.


  #27  
Old February 2nd 07, 06:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
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"The changing face of the African plains has led to a new and bloody
conflict among its animals, as captured in this documentary. National
Geographic: Predators At War examines conditions in the Mala Mala game
preserve in South Africa. Due to a long standing drought, Mala Mala's
plant life is slowly dying out, leaving the predatory animals of the
region -- among them... More lions, leopards, hyenas and cheetahs --
to prey upon one another in a grim bid for survival."

http://shopping.msn.com/Specs/shp/?itemId=50303194


The drought was caused by Global Dimming. As far back as the Ethiopian Food
Crisis when I was in Elementary school.
PBS and the BBC aired a National Geographic doc on it.
Extremely important to our future. More so than just global warming alone.
They actually work off each other.

I always thought it was the Lions against the Christians anyway.
Moneyed vs the poor.


  #28  
Old February 2nd 07, 08:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
Joe Fischer
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On 2 Feb 2007 09:46:18 -0800, "donquijote1954"
wrote:

On Feb 2, 11:20 am, "Lee K" wrote:
Climate Change's Carnival Atmosphere

Showmanship, rather than facts, is driving the climate debate - and, yes,
there still is a raging debate despite pronouncements to the contrary by Al
Gore and the mainstream media.


You send your resume here...

US think tank offering cash to dispute UN climate panel: report

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070202...y_070202142458


More yahoo stuff, yahoo?

You could argue that you make black look white, that hot is cold,


No, I can't but global warming story tellers insist
that global warming can bring on a long hard winter,
and more snow.

that you can make evil look good,


The only evil involved is people repeating what
they hear like they do with outhouse rumors and old
wives tales.

and that Bush has
been good for the environment.


You probably think 911 was good for the
environment. A lot of people are thinking and
saying the US has done nothing, but they should
check out all the projects that have been started
in the last 10 or 15 years, the government does
not need to force everybody here to do things,
efficiency is good for profit, and cooperation is
better than penalties or fines.

The amount of ethanol and biodiesel from
soy beans alone may amount to more neutral CO2
fuel than the efforts at conservation or any effort
by any other country.

And we have to try to do all this while about
2 million people every year abandon their homeland
to come here to try to find a better life and be free
of centralized government restrictions and interference
in their lives.

Joe Fischer

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Old February 2nd 07, 08:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
Ashley Clarke
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Jesus couldn`t be here right now, but braught to you by the marvels
of modern technology we qoute;
"By their deeds you shall know them."

Put into a more apt context, philosiphers correctly predict (in the
near future) that mans` acts will be greatly amplified as to expose
them for their traights; as happening here now on the internet!

-------------------------------------------------------
Ashley Clarke
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  #30  
Old February 2nd 07, 09:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.autos.driving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.energy.renewable
Joe Fischer
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On Fri, "nash" wrote:

"The changing face of the African plains has led to a new and bloody
conflict among its animals, as captured in this documentary. National
Geographic: Predators At War examines conditions in the Mala Mala game
preserve in South Africa. Due to a long standing drought, Mala Mala's
plant life is slowly dying out, leaving the predatory animals of the
region -- among them... More lions, leopards, hyenas and cheetahs --
to prey upon one another in a grim bid for survival."

http://shopping.msn.com/Specs/shp/?itemId=50303194


The drought was caused by Global Dimming.


Is that a quote from something said by an
expert, or your own addition to all the things that
global warming has done?

I searched several different ways for something
to support your contention, but only found one article
by a writer (not a climate expert), and an opinion by
that writer that global warming has caused the snow
cap on the mountain to be smaller.

It is odd that I couldn't find any mention of the
things you claim when reading the tourist advertising.

Joe Fischer

 




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