Liverpool considers speed limits for cyclists

http://www.liverpoolconfidential.co....prom-Liverpool

On 23/06/2013 00:48, Mrcheerful wrote:
http://www.liverpoolconfidential.co....prom-Liverpool


But only when riding on the pavements ...

So, they create these crappy 'shared use' paths, then wonder why
cyclists use the roads.

The photo shows cyclists in some sort of roadway not in a shared use area. Presumably, with typical journalistic accuracy, this isn't the place with the problem.

Low speed limits for vehicles, both motorised and manually powered, in shared use areas are perfectly reasonable. Other than that cyclists in a roadway or dedicated path should be subject to appropriate speed limits dependent on conditions and the typical stopping distances of their vehicles.

On 23/06/2013 00:48, Mrcheerful wrote:

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Interesting, if only because the two-mile promenade on the other side of
the river (between Seacombe and New Brighton) was always closed to all
wheeled traffic, famously including bicycles.

As kids, when we got off the ferry on our bikes (paying the cheaper fare
to Seacombe as compared with the longer voyage to New Brighton), the
promenade was always so irresistibly inviting as the route to NB. But
the (then) Cheshire Constabulary could always be counted on to let out a
terrifying bellow of "GET OFF THAT BIKE", with which we would always
meekly comply.

I might add that the prom was a proper road with footways and a
carriageway and drains and lamp-posts and everything. I have no idea why
*any* traffic should have been banned from that part of it. And once you
got to New Brighton Ferry, traffic as no longer banned from it from
there onward towards the Irish Sea. Mystifying.

On Sunday, 23 June 2013 14:34:40 UTC+1, Piatkow wrote:
The photo shows cyclists in some sort of roadway not in a shared use area.. Presumably, with typical journalistic accuracy, this isn't the place with the problem.



Yeah, you are right. Cyclists have Never been dissallpwed om Otterspool's "promenade" and NEITHER have pedestrians been permitted. It is a free-for-all because historically it is between high and low tide. At 8 to 9 in morn, no walker is there, at 5:30 after midday, no cyclist is traveling through there from out of the city.


Low speed limits for vehicles, both motorised and manually powered, in shared use areas are perfectly reasonable.

It's a load of bull**** and maybe sum bollox and i have five gallons of good strong ale for the first man that can shew beyond all reasonable doubt there is any l;awful reason to be, um,knowingly diiffernt.

Other than that cyclists in a roadway or dedicated path

It is neither!

should be subject to appropriate speed limits dependent on conditions

It's at the esturial part of the river

and the typical stopping distances of their vehicles.

Otter's-pool and Aig's-berth have millenia existense afore the ridicusnuss of yuk-law. Haw-haw!


If ye be serious, there is much about the Wirral and "Englaand" as it came about, the batle ,and oh dear I am getting tyred. Rock ferry is the other bit. Go lookkyyy sunwheerne

thirty-six put finger to keyboard:

On Sunday, 23 June 2013 14:34:40 UTC+1, Piatkow wrote:
The photo shows cyclists in some sort of roadway not in a shared use
area. Presumably, with typical journalistic accuracy, this isn't the
place with the problem.



Yeah, you are right. Cyclists have Never been dissallpwed om
Otterspool's "promenade" and NEITHER have pedestrians been permitted.
It is a free-for-all because historically it is between high and low
tide. At 8 to 9 in morn, no walker is there, at 5:30 after midday, no
cyclist is traveling through there from out of the city.


Low speed limits for vehicles, both motorised and manually powered, in
shared use areas are perfectly reasonable.

It's a load of bull**** and maybe sum bollox and i have five gallons of
good strong ale for the first man that can shew beyond all reasonable
doubt there is any l;awful reason to be, um,knowingly diiffernt.

Other than that cyclists in a roadway or dedicated path

It is neither!

should be subject to appropriate speed limits dependent on conditions

It's at the esturial part of the river

and the typical stopping distances of their vehicles.

Otter's-pool and Aig's-berth have millenia existense afore the
ridicusnuss of yuk-law. Haw-haw!


If ye be serious, there is much about the Wirral and "Englaand" as it
came about, the batle ,and oh dear I am getting tyred. Rock ferry is
the other bit. Go lookkyyy sunwheerne

I suspect the good strong ale on offer above is no longer the promised
five gallons...