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On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:37:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:07:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote: When was the last time you flew anywhere John? I think you mean Frank, not John. These days on most airlines you are allowed one free carry-on. Some airlines allow on free checked luggage and others don't. But a second piece of checked baggage is almost always "extra" and the price can be as much as a cut rate ticket. It costs more to ship a bicycle to Australia than it costs to fly there yourself. Yep: https://www.bikeflights.com https://www.bikeflights.com/ship I priced what it cost to ship a mountain bike from Smog Angeles to Sidney Australia. 55 lbs for $1,842.95 one-way by FedEx Freight and not including the box, packing service or customs. I tried various size bicycles and found the price to be the same. There were no folding bicycles listed, which seems a bit odd. Since he took my name in vain I'll respond. I fly Air Asia, the largest "economy" airline in SEA and the last time I flew anywhere was about 2 months ago - Phuket to Bangkok, about a 12 hour trip by road in my old pickup. The cost on that airline for taking a bicycle as baggage in Thailand is about 500 baht - about $15.40 in U.S. money. To Singapore (never took a bike any further) it is about $30.00. -- Cheers John B. |
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:54:24 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:37:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:07:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote: When was the last time you flew anywhere John? I think you mean Frank, not John. These days on most airlines you are allowed one free carry-on. Some airlines allow on free checked luggage and others don't. But a second piece of checked baggage is almost always "extra" and the price can be as much as a cut rate ticket. It costs more to ship a bicycle to Australia than it costs to fly there yourself. Yep: https://www.bikeflights.com https://www.bikeflights.com/ship I priced what it cost to ship a mountain bike from Smog Angeles to Sidney Australia. 55 lbs for $1,842.95 one-way by FedEx Freight and not including the box, packing service or customs. I tried various size bicycles and found the price to be the same. There were no folding bicycles listed, which seems a bit odd. I fly Air Asia, the largest "economy" airline in SEA and the last time I flew anywhere was about 2 months ago - Phuket to Bangkok, about a 12 hour trip by road in my old pickup. The cost on that airline for taking a bicycle as baggage in Thailand is about 500 baht - about $15.40 in U.S. money. To Singapore (never took a bike any further) it is about $30.00. Yes, but the distance from Phuket to Bangkok is only 840 km, while Smog Angeles to Sidney AU is 12070 km or 14.4 times farther. That means you need a bigger airplane, need to carry more fuel, no pit stops along the way, and the horror of TSA and customs checks at both ends. If I assume the same cost per airline km, then shipping a bicycle from LA to Sidney using Air Asia should be: 14.3 * $30 = $432 That's a long way from $1,842.95, but getting there. If I plug Phuket to Bangkok into: https://www.bikeflights.com/ship Oops. Fedex does not carry on that route. Official Air Asia rate for bicycles are at: https://www.airasia.com/my/en/our-fares/fees-and-charges.page From Phuket to Bangkok is: Sport Equipment (per pax/per sector) 15kg THB 546 20kg THB 577.5 25kg THB 682.5 30kg THB 1050 40kg THB 1470 I would guess a mountain bike and shipping box would weigh 25kg which would cost 682.5 baht = $21 USD. I guess the only useful information here is that shipping a bicycle from US to Australia is seriously expensive, but shorter flights can be quite economical. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:08:43 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:54:24 +0700, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:37:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:07:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote: When was the last time you flew anywhere John? I think you mean Frank, not John. These days on most airlines you are allowed one free carry-on. Some airlines allow on free checked luggage and others don't. But a second piece of checked baggage is almost always "extra" and the price can be as much as a cut rate ticket. It costs more to ship a bicycle to Australia than it costs to fly there yourself. Yep: https://www.bikeflights.com https://www.bikeflights.com/ship I priced what it cost to ship a mountain bike from Smog Angeles to Sidney Australia. 55 lbs for $1,842.95 one-way by FedEx Freight and not including the box, packing service or customs. I tried various size bicycles and found the price to be the same. There were no folding bicycles listed, which seems a bit odd. I fly Air Asia, the largest "economy" airline in SEA and the last time I flew anywhere was about 2 months ago - Phuket to Bangkok, about a 12 hour trip by road in my old pickup. The cost on that airline for taking a bicycle as baggage in Thailand is about 500 baht - about $15.40 in U.S. money. To Singapore (never took a bike any further) it is about $30.00. Yes, but the distance from Phuket to Bangkok is only 840 km, while Smog Angeles to Sidney AU is 12070 km or 14.4 times farther. That means you need a bigger airplane, need to carry more fuel, no pit stops along the way, and the horror of TSA and customs checks at both ends. If I assume the same cost per airline km, then shipping a bicycle from LA to Sidney using Air Asia should be: 14.3 * $30 = $432 That's a long way from $1,842.95, but getting there. Nope. It is 14.3 x $15.40 = $220.00 If I plug Phuket to Bangkok into: https://www.bikeflights.com/ship Oops. Fedex does not carry on that route. Official Air Asia rate for bicycles are at: https://www.airasia.com/my/en/our-fares/fees-and-charges.page From Phuket to Bangkok is: Sport Equipment (per pax/per sector) 15kg THB 546 20kg THB 577.5 25kg THB 682.5 30kg THB 1050 40kg THB 1470 I would guess a mountain bike and shipping box would weigh 25kg which would cost 682.5 baht = $21 USD. Right, I read that cost schedule too, but the two or three times I took a bike from Bangkok to Phuket they didn't weigh it and charged me a flat 500 baht. Granted this was a year or more ago but what the check in girl told me to take the unweighed bagged bike to the large object counter (or whatever they called it) and when I got to the other end that is where I had to pick the bike up. I guess the only useful information here is that shipping a bicycle from US to Australia is seriously expensive, but shorter flights can be quite economical. -- Cheers John B. |
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On 9/27/2018 2:07 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:08:43 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:54:24 +0700, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:37:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:07:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote: When was the last time you flew anywhere John? I think you mean Frank, not John. These days on most airlines you are allowed one free carry-on. Some airlines allow on free checked luggage and others don't. But a second piece of checked baggage is almost always "extra" and the price can be as much as a cut rate ticket. It costs more to ship a bicycle to Australia than it costs to fly there yourself. Yep: https://www.bikeflights.com https://www.bikeflights.com/ship I priced what it cost to ship a mountain bike from Smog Angeles to Sidney Australia. 55 lbs for $1,842.95 one-way by FedEx Freight and not including the box, packing service or customs. I tried various size bicycles and found the price to be the same. There were no folding bicycles listed, which seems a bit odd. I fly Air Asia, the largest "economy" airline in SEA and the last time I flew anywhere was about 2 months ago - Phuket to Bangkok, about a 12 hour trip by road in my old pickup. The cost on that airline for taking a bicycle as baggage in Thailand is about 500 baht - about $15.40 in U.S. money. To Singapore (never took a bike any further) it is about $30.00. Yes, but the distance from Phuket to Bangkok is only 840 km, while Smog Angeles to Sidney AU is 12070 km or 14.4 times farther. That means you need a bigger airplane, need to carry more fuel, no pit stops along the way, and the horror of TSA and customs checks at both ends. If I assume the same cost per airline km, then shipping a bicycle from LA to Sidney using Air Asia should be: 14.3 * $30 = $432 That's a long way from $1,842.95, but getting there. Nope. It is 14.3 x $15.40 = $220.00 If I plug Phuket to Bangkok into: https://www.bikeflights.com/ship Oops. Fedex does not carry on that route. Official Air Asia rate for bicycles are at: https://www.airasia.com/my/en/our-fares/fees-and-charges.page From Phuket to Bangkok is: Sport Equipment (per pax/per sector) 15kg THB 546 20kg THB 577.5 25kg THB 682.5 30kg THB 1050 40kg THB 1470 I would guess a mountain bike and shipping box would weigh 25kg which would cost 682.5 baht = $21 USD. Right, I read that cost schedule too, but the two or three times I took a bike from Bangkok to Phuket they didn't weigh it and charged me a flat 500 baht. Granted this was a year or more ago but what the check in girl told me to take the unweighed bagged bike to the large object counter (or whatever they called it) and when I got to the other end that is where I had to pick the bike up. I guess the only useful information here is that shipping a bicycle from US to Australia is seriously expensive, but shorter flights can be quite economical. Regarding bikes as baggage in the U.S.: Some years ago, it was pointed out that airlines give almost no hassle when transporting baby carriages, golf bags and a few other large items; but most airlines put inconvenient restrictions plus high prices on bikes. Even Amtrak requires (or required?) bikes to be partially disassembled and boxed. (On a long-distance train? There's no room anywhere??) Way back in 1976 was the first time we took bikes out of the country. We flew British Air to Heathrow, and all they asked was that we removed the pedals and turned the handlebars sideways. When we checked in, a smiling gentleman came to the ticket booth and gently rolled our bikes away. Getting them back in Heathrow was just as easy. A few years ago, the now-useless League of American Bicyclists tried lobbying for better treatment of bikes-as-baggage. I gather they failed. Not that it matters much to me any more. We now have folding bikes that travel inside suitcases. The airlines don't even know they are bikes. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
Not that it matters much to me any more. We now have folding bikes that travel inside suitcases. The airlines don't even know they are bikes. Ain't it cool stuff? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:37:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I priced what it cost to ship a mountain bike from Smog Angeles to Sidney Australia. 55 lbs for $1,842.95 one-way by FedEx Freight and not including the box, packing service or customs. Can I point out that there is no "Sidney Australia", but there is a "Sydney Australia", which might lead to you package actually arriving VBG. I wonder if "insurance" is a major factor in that cost. Apparently highly priced bicycles can be very easily damaged in a permanent way. |
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On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 7:58:58 AM UTC-4, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:37:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: I priced what it cost to ship a mountain bike from Smog Angeles to Sidney Australia. 55 lbs for $1,842.95 one-way by FedEx Freight and not including the box, packing service or customs. Can I point out that there is no "Sidney Australia", but there is a "Sydney Australia", which might lead to you package actually arriving VBG. I wonder if "insurance" is a major factor in that cost. Apparently highly priced bicycles can be very easily damaged in a permanent way. If it's based on weight then perhaps packing the box with helium filled balloons would help? VBEG LOL Cheers |
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On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 9:11:53 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/27/2018 2:07 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:08:43 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:54:24 +0700, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:37:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:07:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote: When was the last time you flew anywhere John? I think you mean Frank, not John. These days on most airlines you are allowed one free carry-on. Some airlines allow on free checked luggage and others don't. But a second piece of checked baggage is almost always "extra" and the price can be as much as a cut rate ticket. It costs more to ship a bicycle to Australia than it costs to fly there yourself. Yep: https://www.bikeflights.com https://www.bikeflights.com/ship I priced what it cost to ship a mountain bike from Smog Angeles to Sidney Australia. 55 lbs for $1,842.95 one-way by FedEx Freight and not including the box, packing service or customs. I tried various size bicycles and found the price to be the same. There were no folding bicycles listed, which seems a bit odd. I fly Air Asia, the largest "economy" airline in SEA and the last time I flew anywhere was about 2 months ago - Phuket to Bangkok, about a 12 hour trip by road in my old pickup. The cost on that airline for taking a bicycle as baggage in Thailand is about 500 baht - about $15.40 in U.S. money. To Singapore (never took a bike any further) it is about $30.00. Yes, but the distance from Phuket to Bangkok is only 840 km, while Smog Angeles to Sidney AU is 12070 km or 14.4 times farther. That means you need a bigger airplane, need to carry more fuel, no pit stops along the way, and the horror of TSA and customs checks at both ends. If I assume the same cost per airline km, then shipping a bicycle from LA to Sidney using Air Asia should be: 14.3 * $30 = $432 That's a long way from $1,842.95, but getting there. Nope. It is 14.3 x $15.40 = $220.00 If I plug Phuket to Bangkok into: https://www.bikeflights.com/ship Oops. Fedex does not carry on that route. Official Air Asia rate for bicycles are at: https://www.airasia.com/my/en/our-fares/fees-and-charges.page From Phuket to Bangkok is: Sport Equipment (per pax/per sector) 15kg THB 546 20kg THB 577.5 25kg THB 682.5 30kg THB 1050 40kg THB 1470 I would guess a mountain bike and shipping box would weigh 25kg which would cost 682.5 baht = $21 USD. Right, I read that cost schedule too, but the two or three times I took a bike from Bangkok to Phuket they didn't weigh it and charged me a flat 500 baht. Granted this was a year or more ago but what the check in girl told me to take the unweighed bagged bike to the large object counter (or whatever they called it) and when I got to the other end that is where I had to pick the bike up. I guess the only useful information here is that shipping a bicycle from US to Australia is seriously expensive, but shorter flights can be quite economical. Regarding bikes as baggage in the U.S.: Some years ago, it was pointed out that airlines give almost no hassle when transporting baby carriages, golf bags and a few other large items; but most airlines put inconvenient restrictions plus high prices on bikes. Even Amtrak requires (or required?) bikes to be partially disassembled and boxed. (On a long-distance train? There's no room anywhere??) Way back in 1976 was the first time we took bikes out of the country. We flew British Air to Heathrow, and all they asked was that we removed the pedals and turned the handlebars sideways. When we checked in, a smiling gentleman came to the ticket booth and gently rolled our bikes away. Getting them back in Heathrow was just as easy. A few years ago, the now-useless League of American Bicyclists tried lobbying for better treatment of bikes-as-baggage. I gather they failed. Not that it matters much to me any more. We now have folding bikes that travel inside suitcases. The airlines don't even know they are bikes. -- - Frank Krygowski I had more or less the same experience with Amtrak back in the 80's. I had to load the bike into the baggage car myself but it didn't require any disassembly or boxing as it does now. And there isn't any more baggage there than before. I suppose this is the result of everyone suing everyone else. |
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On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 11:07:55 PM UTC-7, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:08:43 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:54:24 +0700, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:37:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:07:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote: When was the last time you flew anywhere John? I think you mean Frank, not John. These days on most airlines you are allowed one free carry-on. Some airlines allow on free checked luggage and others don't. But a second piece of checked baggage is almost always "extra" and the price can be as much as a cut rate ticket. It costs more to ship a bicycle to Australia than it costs to fly there yourself. Yep: https://www.bikeflights.com https://www.bikeflights.com/ship I priced what it cost to ship a mountain bike from Smog Angeles to Sidney Australia. 55 lbs for $1,842.95 one-way by FedEx Freight and not including the box, packing service or customs. I tried various size bicycles and found the price to be the same. There were no folding bicycles listed, which seems a bit odd. I fly Air Asia, the largest "economy" airline in SEA and the last time I flew anywhere was about 2 months ago - Phuket to Bangkok, about a 12 hour trip by road in my old pickup. The cost on that airline for taking a bicycle as baggage in Thailand is about 500 baht - about $15.40 in U.S. money. To Singapore (never took a bike any further) it is about $30.00. Yes, but the distance from Phuket to Bangkok is only 840 km, while Smog Angeles to Sidney AU is 12070 km or 14.4 times farther. That means you need a bigger airplane, need to carry more fuel, no pit stops along the way, and the horror of TSA and customs checks at both ends. If I assume the same cost per airline km, then shipping a bicycle from LA to Sidney using Air Asia should be: 14.3 * $30 = $432 That's a long way from $1,842.95, but getting there. Nope. It is 14.3 x $15.40 = $220.00 If I plug Phuket to Bangkok into: https://www.bikeflights.com/ship Oops. Fedex does not carry on that route. Official Air Asia rate for bicycles are at: https://www.airasia.com/my/en/our-fares/fees-and-charges.page From Phuket to Bangkok is: Sport Equipment (per pax/per sector) 15kg THB 546 20kg THB 577.5 25kg THB 682.5 30kg THB 1050 40kg THB 1470 I would guess a mountain bike and shipping box would weigh 25kg which would cost 682.5 baht = $21 USD. Right, I read that cost schedule too, but the two or three times I took a bike from Bangkok to Phuket they didn't weigh it and charged me a flat 500 baht. Granted this was a year or more ago but what the check in girl told me to take the unweighed bagged bike to the large object counter (or whatever they called it) and when I got to the other end that is where I had to pick the bike up. I guess the only useful information here is that shipping a bicycle from US to Australia is seriously expensive, but shorter flights can be quite economical. -- Cheers John B. John - In Thailand bicycles are objects of common transportation use and hence are respected. Here in the first world countries they are despised because the larger and more expensive your automobile is that more road you own. |
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